Aries Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 50 minutes ago, topaz325 said: Okay the track was very rough but just because some riders handled it better than others is no excuse for a bad track, I accept that the weather has had a lot to do with track conditions but for a grand final leg it does not sit well. I agree with much of what Robert Lambert said in his interview but maybe he should have been a bit more diplomatic. Also some of the early referees decisions were a bit dodgy , it’s all in Ipswich hands now to keep it close at Sheffield . So you “accept the weather has a lot to do with track conditions” but then criticise the track anyway? What do you expect them to do? In an ideal world they’d have moved the fixture further than 24 hours to prepare something better after torrential rain but that was taken out of their hands. You say “there’s no excuse for a bad track”, well I’m sorry but there is and it’s a damn good one! You’ve completely contradicted yourself. On one hand you’re saying there’s no excuse for a bad track and in the same breath saying you accept the weather dictated that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, Badge said: I truly hope that heat 15 wasn't the last race we see Emil and Jason in witches colours at Foxhall. What is wrong with Jason? seemed ok in heat 15! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer1969 Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 16 minutes ago, Baldyman said: I think all finals should be 30 heats done at the NSS,,, cos I'm pretty sure the racing on Thursday will be just as awful,,,, just a little bit faster awful. So if Bellevue reach the finals they get home track advantage or are you saying Bellevue will never again reach the playoffs. Might seem like a good idea to you but it's definitely not, all home supporters deserve the chance to see their team if they are in the playoffs and not everyone will be able or have the funds to make a trip up North. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted October 4, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 7 minutes ago, 4BM said: What would Ipswich do if that’s the case? R/R or guest?? Harris already in for Sheffield, Lawson can’t due to 8 day rule, Fricke has broken bone in his hand and due an operation this week (if not had it already), Laguta has broken bone in his arm, that leaves NKI, Basso, Tarasenko, Ben Cook, Sedgmen, Kerr or MPT. With that selection I’d go for Kerr with his Owlerton experience, R/R only hope is that Sayfutdinov and King win their rides and Rew and Riss can pick up a couple between them I don’t understand what’s going on with this Doyle stuff. Yes had a first bend fall in his first ride, but showed no ill affects and breezed through his five rides without remotely looking like dropping a point. Then was all smiles in his interview afterwards and looking forward to the return to finish the job on Thursday. Then all of a sudden leaks suggest he’s off to hospital in an ambulance and doubtful for Thursday? All seems a bit strange to me. I know sometimes when the adrenaline drops you can get a delayed reaction to something but still, it all seems a bit weird. IF he’s out, it’s R/R for me. If it costs us the title so be it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer1969 Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 Just now, Arch Stanton said: I don’t understand what’s going on with this Doyle stuff. Yes had a first bend fall in his first ride, but showed no ill affects and breezed through his five rides without remotely looking like dropping a point. Then was all smiles in his interview afterwards and looking forward to the return to finish the job on Thursday. Then all of a sudden leaks suggest he’s off to hospital in an ambulance and doubtful for Thursday? All seems a bit strange to me. I know sometimes when the adrenaline drops you can get a delayed reaction to something but still, it all seems a bit weird. IF he’s out, it’s R/R for me. If it costs us the title so be it. Perhaps Lambert started the (unsubstantiated as yet) rumour because he was upset !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 29 minutes ago, Badge said: Should be on a disrepute charge for that An immediate 1 match ban would be about right 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 No chance Doyle misses Thursday imo. Last meeting and biggest meeting of the season, He's a tough rider and will surely ride through the pain barrier for one night only knowing he'll have lots of recovery time after Thursday night. If he was badly injured then he wouldn't have pocketed Robert Lambert all night after Danyon Hume's clownery in Ht 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 16 minutes ago, hammer1969 said: Perhaps Lambert started the (unsubstantiated as yet) rumour because he was upset !! It’s not unsubstantiated he went to hospital Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 45 minutes ago, Badge said: Personally I thought it was refreshing to hear a rider express an opinion in an interview rather than the bland nothingness that most riders come out with when asked inane questions about setup etc. I'll also extend that to Picko who is clearly very passionate about the clubs he rides for as demonstrated by his comments at Edinburgh recently 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Mick Bratley said: During the TV broadcast, when they went to one of the breaks, they showed odd clips, on one of the clips it showed a riders tank being filled and the colour of the methanol was pink. Have they started putting colouring in methanol? Never seen that before, but it has been a while since I was in and around any pits! Not sure about now Mick but in the late 90s we did use yellow methanol - it was brought in to stop cheating with fuel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralMelchett Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 11 minutes ago, iainb said: Personally I thought it was refreshing to hear a rider express an opinion in an interview rather than the bland nothingness that most riders come out with when asked inane questions about setup etc. I'll also extend that to Picko who is clearly very passionate about the clubs he rides for as demonstrated by his comments at Edinburgh recently Pickering was a complete contrast however - Lambert whilst making perhaps some valid comments probably only one (or maybe two) about the heat 4 incident just came across so badly. Sadly for me he has blotted his copybook and the fact he keeps turning up for (mainly) playoff finals is somewhat infurating, he needs to commit to a full season next year! Does he say the same about the KL track he rides each week? (genuione question!) He is a very good rider - possibly not as good as he can be, or thinks he is yet! The greatest riders can ride all tracks which has often been the reason some top riders insist on riding in the UK its keeps the sharp. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 15 minutes ago, SPEEDY69 said: Not sure about now Mick but in the late 90s we did use yellow methanol - it was brought in to stop cheating with fuel. Yellow methanol... is that like yellow snow? Are you sure it was methanol? Maybe this Pink methanol is Dreamboat Phil's() "special" methanol he tries to peddle on the GP circuit... or was maybe taken from the recent "Ladies Day" at the NSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 11 minutes ago, GeneralMelchett said: Pickering was a complete contrast however - Lambert whilst making perhaps some valid comments probably only one (or maybe two) about the heat 4 incident just came across so badly. Sadly for me he has blotted his copybook and the fact he keeps turning up for (mainly) playoff finals is somewhat infurating, he needs to commit to a full season next year! Does he say the same about the KL track he rides each week? (genuione question!) He is a very good rider - possibly not as good as he can be, or thinks he is yet! The greatest riders can ride all tracks which has often been the reason some top riders insist on riding in the UK its keeps the sharp. Lambert even said on tv last year that he would like to come back this year, I thought it was rubbish at the time and I don't think anyone realised it would only be for a handful of meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cheese Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 I can see why so many saw Lambert's comments as whinging and would probably agree but I'd rather see a rider give their honest opinion than the same old "we're disappointed but we go again on Thursday" type interview. As a King's Lynn rider I'd expect him to be more annoyed at losing to Ipswich too. Assuming Doyle is okay you'd fancy Ipswich to win now but I wouldn't write Sheffield off just yet, Hume being a liability has just about kept them in it. King and Rew will be the key riders in the 2nd leg, not expecting the other 3 to add much so they'll need to back up the top 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 Don’t worry about Doyle. He’s riding Thursday. Just went for a small check up on his back. Nothing more nothing less. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 3 hours ago, Arch Stanton said: Do they? Are you sure you’re not getting confused with Peterborough supporters? Yes there has been Ipswich fans over time,as well as many others.They moan about our track being to grippy and riders not being able to ride it,just like last night.But now it's different if you know what I mean.Some fans are contradicting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP78 Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 Any word yet on the r/s guest for Ipswich and the number 6 for Sheffield? I'm guessing we'll go Joe Thompson again, can't think of any alternatives? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 35 minutes ago, MP78 said: Any word yet on the r/s guest for Ipswich and the number 6 for Sheffield? I'm guessing we'll go Joe Thompson again, can't think of any alternatives? Bomber for Tai and Jye Etheridge at #6 for Sheffield. Ipswich will juggle their Thompsons again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 37 minutes ago, tellboy said: Yes there has been Ipswich fans over time,as well as many others.They moan about our track being to grippy and riders not being able to ride it,just like last night.But now it's different if you know what I mean.Some fans are contradicting. I never moan about any track, that's the good thing with British speedway the variety, if these so called superstars can't handle them, tough. Lambert was only whinging as he got handed a lesson by Emil & Doyle. You don't get within 0.5 seconds of the track record if the track is that bad!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 If Chris Harris riding then put Sheff down for the title. 15 point max .Emil, Jason or Robert won't get near him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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