Ipswich v Sheffield play off final 1st leg

[blue witch]

Looking back at some of great riders that was in the GP’s 10-15 years ago do you think they’d be moaning about the track? Problem now the so called superstars can only ride slick tracks so when they come up against anything other than that they can’t handle it! Why shouldn’t Ipswich set up the track to suit them? 

[orion]

2 minutes ago, cowboy cookie returns? said:

if you look closely you can see Holder out in front…..taken about the time he was psyched out of the meeting.

Only time he was out in front

 

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

Just enjoyed watching a recording having returned from another brilliant Ipswich home win at Portman Road

I don't think the track was deliberately prepared as it was but if they were looking at the best way to mess with Sheffield heads that was spot on

A fantastic lead but still not over. Just as was seen at Belle Vue even  a decent margin offers no guarantee

Need a similar start as in the semi to settle things down and then bring it home 

One last thing - who fancies a sing song?

Everybody - "Robert Lambert what a w@n£er tra lal la lal la la. Robert Lambert what a w@n£er tra lal lal la la la" 

Edited October 3, 2023 by dontforgetthefueltapsbruv

[Bald Bloke]

55 minutes ago, bringbackHalifax said:

Lambert 1 and only done 3 meetings in Uk

Wrong!!!! 4 away and 2 at home.............. Play off don't count

 

Edited October 3, 2023 by Bald Bloke

[Bald Bloke]

59 minutes ago, bringbackHalifax said:

Lambert 1 and only done 3 meetings in Uk

Ok 

Edited October 3, 2023 by Bald Bloke

[Debbi]

Does anyone know how Doyle is, I’ve seen on a few different Facebook pages that he was seen getting into and being taken away from Foxhall in an ambulance. It’s also rumoured he may not be able to take part in Thursdays meeting.

He’s had a few nasty accidents recently so hope it’s just precautionary.

Edited October 3, 2023 by Debbi

[DazS]

1 hour ago, 2ndbend said:

So how many riders has Jason knocked off???? Answer 0

dont let Freddie hear you say that.

[bellevueace]

I dont think this is over, we were 22 points down after four heats in our second leg and took it to the last heat, Riss Rew and the witches reserves could find the going tough at Owlerton, Emil, Doyley, and King are going to need some backing. If reports Doyle is having check ups and could miss the second leg are true  that could be pivotal, hope hes ok. Sheffield will certainly be a far tougher proposition and could pull this back if unlike us they get off to a good start.

[2ndbendbeerhut]

So......

Just finished watching the meeting on TV after being there tonight. 

The track was a lot drier than last meeting and should have been a lot wetter to make it an "Ipswich track" 

Doyle Emil and King all came to the party 

Hume Riss and Rew all scored their average.  Thompson got stuck in.

Yes the lead should have been bigger but for mistakes but hey that's the Witches way.

Could have been so very different after the heat 4 incident with Hume and Doyle, fortunately both riders got up and rode for the remainder of the meeting, hope both are OK. 

As for Sheffield, Stead and his riders all seemed to have chip on their shoulders, whinge whinge whinge. Wonder if that's how they got Lambert in as a guest.  Talking of him.... doesnt he fit in well.. wow I thought Holder would be chief dummy spitter. 

Wonder if the ref fined him for his comments to him? Quite easily be and as many have said if you don't like it don't ride here.  As Kelvin said " it's the same for both sides " 

Set up nicely for the Witches on Thursday now... 

As for a last heat deceider like the semi final.... I'd take that any day of the week.... so long as the result is the same 

 

Up the Witches 

 

Ps I hope he not needed but I hear Lawson is available to guest on Thursday if needed... 

Edited October 4, 2023 by 2ndbendbeerhut

[bluejam]

2 hours ago, spin king said:

For the meeting on Thursday we need the Sheffield spirit of 30th September 2010.

Was that the night you overturned the Monarchs?

You may well have a visitor to S6 2DE on Thursday evening that hasn't been near Penistone Rd for 8 yearsLet me know where you locate yourself via PM

Edited October 4, 2023 by bluejam

[tellboy]

What I find quite ironic just going over the many pages,is that many of the Ipswich fans lament the Lynn track but watching that last night and last week can they really say their track is any better.I don't think so at all.

[cowboy cookie returns?]

I wonder what Lambert’s beef was last night. Was it the track or the fact he got out rode in four of his heats? If the track was that bad he didn’t seem to concerned in heat 5 when he won with the quickest time of the night.

Just seems a sore loser with a complete lack of sportsmanship just like Holder who couldn’t be arsed to collect his runners up medal in the cup final.

[bigcatdiary]

8 hours ago, Bagpuss said:

Are you suggesting the bloke who has finished in the top six of the GP's the last two years isn't 'truly world class'?

In any case two out of fourteen riders being able to handle the track isn't good enough. That was an awful speedway meeting, and we get far too many of those in this country.

I can only agree with this, the track was a disgrace and the referee not much better, he let a few fliers go last night and whatever he was thinking in heat four when Hume locked up heaven alone knows.

Sayfutdinov, Doyle and King were excellent for Ipswich and Lambert and Pickering did their best for Sheffield but Holder was appalling and the rest of the riders couldn’t handle the track.

As a viewing spectacle it was complete rubbish and that’s the biggest problem, for a showpiece final it was an utter disgrace.

 

 

Edited October 4, 2023 by bigcatdiary

[bringbackHalifax]

10 minutes ago, bigcatdiary said:

I can only agree with this, the track was a disgrace and the referee not much better, he let a few fliers go last night and whatever he was thinking in heat four when Hume locked up heaven alone knows.

Sayfutdinov, Doyle and King were excellent for Ipswich and Lambert and Pickering did their best for Sheffield but Holder was appalling and the rest of the riders couldn’t handle the track.

As a viewing spectacle it was complete rubbish and that’s the biggest problem, for a showpiece final it was an utter disgrace.

 

 

And the 2nd leg of the show piece semi final last Thursday was what. A disgrace win at all costs ………

[89buttons]

In fairness Hawkins concedes in his match report that the track was very tough last night - due to the bad weather Monday night track prep yesterday was very difficult.
 

Louis said on the mic last night wasn’t his choice for the fixture to be moved to so any notion Ipswich doctored the track doesn’t hold weight, they’ve done the best they can in the situation that presented itself due to the weather conditions.

As for lambert moaning, yep Hume should’ve been out, but in heat 1 he shouldn’t be moaning Emil was allowed back in after getting a huge shove from howarth and getting locked to lambert, frankly I think there’s probably only a handful of riders in the world in that moment that could’ve done what Emil did to avoid a huge huge crash, Robert lucky he wasn’t sat up in the diner yet he’s moaning Emil got back in the race?? 
 

also I liked Hawkins comment in his report that 13 out of 14 riders made the best of it and got stuck in and attacked the track in tough conditions…dunno who he was referring to? Any guesses hahahah
 

weather was fine here the last couple of weeks btw and it’s wasn’t our meetings that hadn’t been fit in in time for the playoffs to be staged on the original dates.

disappointed it’s not a bigger lead with Danyon throwing away points in several races but if you’d have offered any Ipswich fan an 18 point lead going into the second I’m sure we’d have all bitten your hand off for that.

[bigcatdiary]

38 minutes ago, bringbackHalifax said:

And the 2nd leg of the show piece semi final last Thursday was what. A disgrace win at all costs ………

Yes it was

[Bash]

8 hours ago, BluPanther said:

If found, please send to Robert Lambert c/o Sheffield Speedway...

Holder is still looking for his from the KOC final that’s why he was going so slow

[ruckerroo]

When you look at the effort lads like Hume and Edwards put in for their sides then watch the complete inept effort from holder all meeting it does make you wonder why they bother with these half has beens in this country. Just desperation I spose 

[89buttons]

1 minute ago, ruckerroo said:

When you look at the effort lads like Hume and Edwards put in for their sides then watch the complete inept effort from holder all meeting it does make you wonder why they bother with these half has beens in this country. Just desperation I spose 

Especially when Adam Ellis who he came in for is a very good at ippo. Obviously they didnt know when they made the changes they’d have us in both finals but gotta say Ellis and Kerr would’ve outscored holder and the two guests in the two Foxhall legs by probably 10 points

[Arch Stanton]

“I’m really happy with the result, it was a really tough battle. We managed to come through it and get a decent lead, so I’m delighted with all seven of them on a tricky track tonight due to the weather we had last night. I’m delighted with the boys, and it is a good lead, but we know Sheffield are going to come strong on Thursday.

“It was a brilliant performance from our three heat leaders, they won a lot of races. Heat 13 and 15 were crucial 5-1s, that is eight points up in two heats and they could easily have been shared heats. They have been superb all season and we have talked a lot about it, you can’t put into words the job they have done, and they have come up trumps again and what a pleasure they have been to work with.

“It was tough out there tonight, 13 out of the 14 riders attacked the track and battled hard. It felt like a battle, and it wasn’t enjoyable conditions for anyone to ride in, but it couldn’t be helped. The weather played its part which it does at this time of year, and it was a proper final with two teams battling their hardest. I’m sure it will be the same on Thursday.

“We had concerns having to move it to a Tuesday and clashing with the football team who are doing great this season but wow, you came out in force again. I spoke to everyone on the mic to re-iterate again, thank you for all of the support, you have made the world of difference to get us in the position we are in. We have come from the brink, and we now have a great opportunity to make this a legendary season.”

 

Hawkins concedes the track was difficult and holds his hands up but people are going overboard in their criticism here. Most of the comments on here are from people who don’t live in Ipswich and didn’t see the rain we had Monday evening and then again Tuesday morning. No summer sunshine or heat yesterday to dry the track out either. Similar to last week for the Belle Vue semi, it literally pi$$ed it down at 7.30 just before the parade!