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The biggest question is around who rides for the Sheffield select side.

Regardless of if the averages allow it or not Sheffield should keep in Lawson along Lambert for continuity reasons. If Harris rides it completely devalues & makes the sports highlight of the season a farce. 
 

I think this will be closer than the cup final but I think Ipswich will have enough over 2 legs to complete the job. The key riders are Riss for Ipswich & Holder for Sheffield. 
 

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48 minutes ago, cowboy cookie returns? said:

The biggest question is around who rides for the Sheffield select side.

Regardless of if the averages allow it or not Sheffield should keep in Lawson along Lambert for continuity reasons. If Harris rides it completely devalues & makes the sports highlight of the season a farce. 
 

I think this will be closer than the cup final but I think Ipswich will have enough over 2 legs to complete the job. The key riders are Riss for Ipswich & Holder for Sheffield. 
 

People go so ott about Harris being  a guest.  . Just  dont see any problem with it at all. Just the normal suspects acting like drama queen's over nothing as normal.

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4 minutes ago, The Third Man said:

So here we go, Sheffield don't deserve to be in the final because half their team got injured and it rained last night just before Wolves were going to mount a great comeback and win on the night and win on aggregate

 

 

Of course they do, they have no choice but to use guests i totally agree . I've followed both Sheffield and Ipswich keenly past 2 seasons with the Swindon connections but I do believe you should be made to use the guests in the final that got you through and not adopt a horses for courses policy , barring injury to the guests already used . To me it's like taking out an out of form rider and replacing them after the cut off point in this case Harris who flew round Ippo . 

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44 minutes ago, orion said:

People go so ott about Harris being  a guest.  . Just  dont see any problem with it at all. Just the normal suspects acting like drama queen's over nothing as normal.

Nah disagree with you on this one, Harris guesting against Ipswich after guesting FOR Ipswich in the semi is just plain daft. 

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29 minutes ago, foreverblue said:

It seems wrong, Harris helped Ipswich get in to the final and now he is helping another team stop them winning the title.

All guests in any match could classed as doing that This is a new match and just like any match  in the history of speedway you can pick  a guest that fits into your side.No idea why this should be  any different . Wrong is changing the rules after they have been made.

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55 minutes ago, orion said:

All guests in any match could classed as doing that This is a new match and just like any match  in the history of speedway you can pick  a guest that fits into your side.No idea why this should be  any different . Wrong is changing the rules after they have been made.

Yes true but it seems some including myself thought there was a rule to stop a rider riding for more than one play off team but apparently that is not the case. Anyway should make a great final and is what most would want.

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1 hour ago, Arch Stanton said:

Nah disagree with you on this one, Harris guesting against Ipswich after guesting FOR Ipswich in the semi is just plain daft. 

Even more so when a rider in a team that is in the play offs can't guest after their team is knocked out. But a rider whose team hasn't qualified for the play offs is allowed to represent 2 clubs.

But hey sums the "sport" up in this country....

:rolleyes:

Here's hoping Harris has the same incentive as when he rode for the Witches in the play offs .. to do the opposite against the Witches 

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2 hours ago, hagonshocker said:

Of course they do, they have no choice but to use guests i totally agree . I've followed both Sheffield and Ipswich keenly past 2 seasons with the Swindon connections but I do believe you should be made to use the guests in the final that got you through and not adopt a horses for courses policy , barring injury to the guests already used . To me it's like taking out an out of form rider and replacing them after the cut off point in this case Harris who flew round Ippo . 

we should have used Harris at Wolves and last night, he would have equalled Lawsons scores, but then everyone would be up in arms because Harris helped Sheffield and Ipswich qualify for the final, also the eight day rule stops us using Lawson and Mountain next Thursday and would have stopped us using Harris if we had used him last night, suspend that and people would be complaining

With three riders injured Sheffield cant win in any situation

 

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10 minutes ago, The Third Man said:

we should have used Harris at Wolves and last night, he would have equalled Lawsons scores, but then everyone would be up in arms because Harris helped Sheffield and Ipswich qualify for the final, also the eight day rule stops us using Lawson and Mountain next Thursday and would have stopped us using Harris if we had used him last night, suspend that and people would be complaining

With three riders injured Sheffield cant win in any situation

 

I think they will use Etheridge for the home leg. I think overall they have benefitted from losing Vissing, Lambert is riding at least as well as Tai or Tobi and Harris was terrific at Ipswich in the semi so will be a good replacement 

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4 hours ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said:

Calm v Panic

Fairness v Manipulation

Good v Evil

Cmon the Witches ! 

uninjured V injured 

jack holder,Tobi ,tai , dan  (and vissing)  CANNOT ride ...... therefore Sheffield have only FOUR riders fit . what is your suggestion/answer to this scenario ???  

 

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