Glasgow Vs Oxford play offs 26/9/23

[old bob at herne bay]

Allegedly Craig cook is lined up as a guest replacement should Glasgow insist on racing this Saturday

[LisaColette]

1 hour ago, SilentLurker said:

The cut off was this Saturday. Until the league sponsors rocked up and said that wont be happening.

GLASGOW’S potential Cab Direct Championship Play-Off decider with Oxford will now take place on Tuesday, October 3.

The Allied Vehicles Tigers clash with the Cheetahs had originally been scheduled to take place last night (Tuesday).

 

 

Sounds like it is more Oxford's doing! Glasgow offered Friday reading the article.

Oxford didn't seem bothered about getting Redcar to ride with a load of guests and r/r. 

Edited September 27, 2023 by lisa-colette

[Cast1rn]

4 hours ago, MartinBSN said:

We certainly haven’t posted any videos 

Apologies, Ian Brennan posted a video on Scott's twitter post. Unless I've got the names mixed up, that's who I thought presents on BSN?

 

[Nickinho]

16 hours ago, Debbi said:

Are you serious?! Please don’t question Scott’s integrity he has been nothing but professional at Oxford this year. He has ridden through some devastating times for him and his family, when many others would have pulled out of meetings.

How do you know when he signed his contract with Discovery may be that was first. I’m Oxford through and through and yes I would love for Scott to be able to ride but if he is contracted to be with Discovery I understand that as the GP dates have been fixed for 12 months at least. 

I never questioned his integrity or his professionalism in either speedway or broadcasting, i merely stated that speedway must and should come first. As it is the meeting is now being run next Tuesday so he can both race and do his talky stuff.

Edited September 27, 2023 by Nickinho

[Nickinho]

 

37 minutes ago, szkocjasid said:

This bit confuses me:

It had been ruled that all Play-Off group fixtures must be completed by October 1.

In accordance with this, the Tigers management had offered to run the restaging this Friday. However, Oxford were unable to accommodate this due to rider availability.

Therefore the next available race night was Tuesday and that has now been confirmed.

Does that mean cut-off dates are not set in stone & only applicable if clubs don't have riders missing?

So I'm assuming next year a club is allowed to refuse a date before the cut-off date of any competition, as long as they have riders missing?

So really the rule should be along the lines of "all Championship fixtures should be completed by 31st August unless clubs are unable to accommodate this due to rider availability in this situation clubs can run on the next suitable date for both clubs"

 

The BSPA is like France - there are no rules.

They can make and break them whenever they desire and have done so for years. That is why everything in speedway is run like a weekend in Blackpool and why support continues to drift away. Anyone know when the Jubilee Cup is being restaged? Me neither.

[Fromafar]

1 hour ago, szkocjasid said:

This bit confuses me:

It had been ruled that all Play-Off group fixtures must be completed by October 1.

In accordance with this, the Tigers management had offered to run the restaging this Friday. However, Oxford were unable to accommodate this due to rider availability.

Therefore the next available race night was Tuesday and that has now been confirmed.

Does that mean cut-off dates are not set in stone & only applicable if clubs don't have riders missing?

So I'm assuming next year a club is allowed to refuse a date before the cut-off date of any competition, as long as they have riders missing?

So really the rule should be along the lines of "all Championship fixtures should be completed by 31st August unless clubs are unable to accommodate this due to rider availability in this situation clubs can run on the next suitable date for both clubs"

 

“In the best interest of the sport rule “ supersedes everything.

[arnieg]

1 hour ago, szkocjasid said:

This bit confuses me:

It had been ruled that all Play-Off group fixtures must be completed by October 1.

In accordance with this, the Tigers management had offered to run the restaging this Friday. However, Oxford were unable to accommodate this due to rider availability.

Therefore the next available race night was Tuesday and that has now been confirmed.

Does that mean cut-off dates are not set in stone & only applicable if clubs don't have riders missing?

So I'm assuming next year a club is allowed to refuse a date before the cut-off date of any competition, as long as they have riders missing?

So really the rule should be along the lines of "all Championship fixtures should be completed by 31st August unless clubs are unable to accommodate this due to rider availability in this situation clubs can run on the next suitable date for both clubs"

 

The word 'deadline' has a different meaning in BSPL land, something along the lines of 'aspiration'

[Neila]

1 hour ago, geoff100 said:

If only someone was in charge to see this didnt happen!

Mr Godfrey in charge just making rules up as they go along, as usual 

[SilentLurker]

A leaked snapshot from the Allied team meeting regarding the rearranged Oxford fixture on Tuesday.

 

 

[Fromafar]

Let’s face these matches have to settled on track.End Off.The sport is a big enough joke.

[Bojangles]

2 hours ago, lisa-colette said:

Sounds like it is more Oxford's doing! Glasgow offered Friday reading the article.

Oxford didn't seem bothered about getting Redcar to ride with a load of guests and r/r. 

Perhaps Redcar were willing to ride, which seems more likely.

[LisaColette]

1 minute ago, Bojangles said:

Perhaps Redcar were willing to ride, which seems more likely.

Prob because of the cut off. I don't mind cut off being extended as it has happened a million times before. Why did Oxford ask Redcar to ride with half a team when they were not prepared to do the same themselves? Both teams should have been treated the same and they haven't imo. 

[Jaizer]

3 minutes ago, lisa-colette said:

Prob because of the cut off. I don't mind cut off being extended as it has happened a million times before. Why did Oxford ask Redcar to ride with half a team when they were not prepared to do the same themselves? Both teams should have been treated the same and they haven't imo. 

Tend to agree. Seems very harsh on Redcar had to run with a severely weakened team but Oxford were allowed to refuse a date for the same reason.

I'd much prefer the meeting for both teams to have full sides, but I'm sure Redcar feel the same way. Both should've been allowed a date when could field full strength sides imo

[Bojangles]

16 minutes ago, lisa-colette said:

Prob because of the cut off. I don't mind cut off being extended as it has happened a million times before. Why did Oxford ask Redcar to ride with half a team when they were not prepared to do the same themselves? Both teams should have been treated the same and they haven't imo. 

Redcar could have said 'no', as has been proven by Oxford saying no. Works both ways.

10 minutes ago, Jaizer said:

Tend to agree. Seems very harsh on Redcar had to run with a severely weakened team but Oxford were allowed to refuse a date for the same reason.

I'd much prefer the meeting for both teams to have full sides, but I'm sure Redcar feel the same way. Both should've been allowed a date when could field full strength sides imo

And were Redcar really 'severely weakened'? Leon Flint was a decent enough guest for Erik Riss (probably scored more points than Erik would have done), so they were just missing Connor Bailey - for which they had rider replacement. Anything else I'm missing? Charles Wright is out for the rest of the season and Luke Harrison has been a regular guest.

Edited September 27, 2023 by Bojangles

[Gazc]

10 minutes ago, Bojangles said:

Redcar could have said 'no', as has been proven by Oxford saying no. Works both ways.

And were Redcar really 'severely weakened'? Leon Flint was a decent enough guest for Erik Riss (probably scored more points than Erik would have done), so they were just missing Connor Bailey - for which they had rider replacement. Anything else I'm missing? Charles Wright is out for the rest of the season and Luke Harrison has been a regular guest.

If the Saturday date doesn't suit Oxford then they are entitled to refuse this date, personally I would rather watch the two teams at full strength or as near to it as possible.

The previous league match was probably the best meeting at Glasgow this season so far, and there have been some good ones before then. I am all for the delay if the racing is as good next Tuesday. 

[Bojangles]

7 minutes ago, Gazc said:

If the Saturday date doesn't suit Oxford then they are entitled to refuse this date, personally I would rather watch the two teams at full strength or as near to it as possible.

The previous league match was probably the best meeting at Glasgow this season so far, and there have been some good ones before then. I am all for the delay if the racing is as good next Tuesday. 

Absolutely, I was thoroughly looking forward to this match after the previous visit. It's superbly poised, everything to race for and may the best team win.

[mikebv]

1 hour ago, Fromafar said:

Let’s face these matches have to settled on track.End Off.The sport is a big enough joke.

Rock, paper, scissors anyone? 

Best out of three obviously...

Be a farce just dong it once...

 

[Jaizer]

52 minutes ago, Bojangles said:

Redcar could have said 'no', as has been proven by Oxford saying no. Works both ways.

And were Redcar really 'severely weakened'? Leon Flint was a decent enough guest for Erik Riss (probably scored more points than Erik would have done), so they were just missing Connor Bailey - for which they had rider replacement. Anything else I'm missing? Charles Wright is out for the rest of the season and Luke Harrison has been a regular guest.

I'm not saying the meeting should go ahead with weakened Oxford side. What I'm saying is it's a double standard for Redcar to have to ride missing 4 riders at time was agreed but Oxford refusing on the basis of missing 2 (3 of Jenkins still out).

Both sides should've been given the chance to field their strongest possible sides. After all this is supposed to be the pinnacle of the season, what they've all ridden for all year long.

[SteveLyric2]

32 minutes ago, mikebv said:

Rock, paper, scissors anyone? 

Best out of three obviously...

Be a farce just dong it once...

 

Kindly keep your dong to yourself!

[Bojangles]

5 minutes ago, Jaizer said:

I'm not saying the meeting should go ahead with weakened Oxford side. What I'm saying is it's a double standard for Redcar to have to ride missing 4 riders at time was agreed but Oxford refusing on the basis of missing 2 (3 of Jenkins still out).

Both sides should've been given the chance to field their strongest possible sides. After all this is supposed to be the pinnacle of the season, what they've all ridden for all year long.

And while I totally agree with what you're saying, isn't it on Redcar to say 'no' if they felt they couldn't compete? Based on Oxford saying 'no', they clearly could have done as well. You can't blame Oxford for that.