Bojangles Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 A big meeting in the playoffs. Kyle Howarth replaces Charles Wright for Redcar and Luke Harrison guesting again - otherwise both teams are full strength. Redcar won 48-42 in the league in July, although Oxford were missing Lewis Kerr and Scott Nicholls on that occasion. Ashton Boughen also in for Ryan Kinsley since then, so you'd think it might be a close one (especially with the loss of Charles for the Bears). Redcar: 1 Danny King, 2 Danyon Hume, 3 Connor Bailey, 4 Kyle Howarth (guest), 5 Erik Riss, 6 Jason Edwards, 7 Luke Harrison (guest). Oxford: 1 Sam Masters, 2 Cameron Heeps, 3 Lewis Kerr, 4 Jordan Jenkins, 5 Scott Nicholls, 6 Henry Atkins, 7 Ashton Boughen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 3 hours ago, Bojangles said: A big meeting in the playoffs. Kyle Howarth replaces Charles Wright for Redcar and Luke Harrison guesting again - otherwise both teams are full strength. Redcar won 48-42 in the league in July, although Oxford were missing Lewis Kerr and Scott Nicholls on that occasion. Ashton Boughen also in for Ryan Kinsley since then, so you'd think it might be a close one (especially with the loss of Charles for the Bears). Redcar: 1 Danny King, 2 Danyon Hume, 3 Connor Bailey, 4 Kyle Howarth (guest), 5 Erik Riss, 6 Jason Edwards, 7 Luke Harrison (guest). Oxford: 1 Sam Masters, 2 Cameron Heeps, 3 Lewis Kerr, 4 Jordan Jenkins, 5 Scott Nicholls, 6 Henry Atkins, 7 Ashton Boughen. Your 2 heat leader guests, Howarth & Basso scored 9 & 11 respectively. Are you expecting more from your regular 2? Kinsley did score 0, though so Boughen should score more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bojangles Posted September 22, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 (edited) 30 minutes ago, IronScorpion said: Your 2 heat leader guests, Howarth & Basso scored 9 & 11 respectively. Are you expecting more from your regular 2? Kinsley did score 0, though so Boughen should score more. Given Kerr's familiarity with the Redcar track and the fact Howarth and Basso both had five rides in that meeting, yes I'd expect Kerr and Nicholls to slightly outscore 20 points from 10 rides if comes down to that - especially with Wright not being in Redcar's line-up. Howarth also failed to beat an opposition heat leader on that occasion (bar Riss retiring twice), so he surely makes Redcar weaker than having Wright in the side in my opinion. Not saying Oxford are necessarily going to win, but it should be a close run thing. Edited September 22, 2023 by Bojangles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellers101 Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 Redcar need a big result tonight as they've already forfeited the away leg at Oxford by agreeing to go there on a Sunday with so many riders unavailable! What a joke! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbarian Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 It's chucking it down up here in Newcastle just asking about weather down there see whether worth travelling down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toady Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 Well done Oxford 14 points down and win by 4 great team effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim G Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 Big win for Oxford considering they were 14 points down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yearbyred Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 (edited) Hard to win with 1 heat leader at home. 6 between Howarth in place of Charles and a hugely disappointing Riss was never going to be enough. Fair play to the others for at least battling. Probably would have been a much bigger win for Oxford if the first few heats hadn’t been ridden on a very wet track. They adapted much better (with the help of better gate positions) when the track dried a bit. Credit to Oxford they deserved their win. A damp squib in every sense. Edited September 22, 2023 by Yearbyred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellers101 Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 Redcar have their super team out at Oxford on Sunday though. Keep the faith! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebaker Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 Think the KO Cup semi is our only hope of making a final. Better options of guest choice for Charles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandking072 Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 Would anyone have the race times for this meeting please? Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boz Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 41 minutes ago, Yearbyred said: Hard to win with 1 heat leader at home. 6 between Howarth in place of Charles and a hugely disappointing Riss was never going to be enough. Fair play to the others for at least battling. Probably would have been a much bigger win for Oxford if the first few heats hadn’t been ridden on a very wet track. They adapted much better (with the help of better gate positions) when the track dried a bit. Credit to Oxford they deserved their win. A damp squib in every sense. Can't argue with much of that - was one heat leader and five second strings really. Fair play to King, Hume and Edwards for battling away. Riss incredibly poor. Oxford looked strong throughout once conditions settled a bit. Have as good a chance as anyone of winning the league. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilly Posted September 23, 2023 Report Share Posted September 23, 2023 14 hours ago, sandking072 said: Would anyone have the race times for this meeting please? Thanks in advance. 1. 57.4 2. 58.5 3. 57.3 4. 57.5 5. 57.9 6. 57.1 7. 57.5 8. 58.0 9. 57.8 10. 58.7 11. 58.4 12. 58.6 13. 58.3 14. 58.7 15. 58.4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandking072 Posted September 23, 2023 Report Share Posted September 23, 2023 Thank you very much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruckerroo Posted September 23, 2023 Report Share Posted September 23, 2023 It can happen to anyone but it's a bit cruel to lose your most influential rider at play off time , Redcar are a good outfit . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted September 23, 2023 Report Share Posted September 23, 2023 34 minutes ago, ruckerroo said: It can happen to anyone but it's a bit cruel to lose your most influential rider at play off time , Redcar are a good outfit . If clubs vote for play-offs, they must realise there's a chance one of your riders could be injured, so can't complain about it imo. Part of me feels if a club finishes 4th in the (qualifying) league, then they don't "deserve" to be Champions anyway! But if they won, I wouldn't complain, because that's the rules, whoever wins the play-offs are the rightful Champions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yearbyred Posted September 23, 2023 Report Share Posted September 23, 2023 Having an injury to a top rider in the playoffs is exacerbated by the limitation to the choice of guests available , as has been seen in Redcars last 2 matches. The loss of Jake Mulford just when his form was on the up was also a big blow to the Bears this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellers101 Posted September 23, 2023 Report Share Posted September 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Yearbyred said: Having an injury to a top rider in the playoffs is exacerbated by the limitation to the choice of guests available , as has been seen in Redcars last 2 matches. The loss of Jake Mulford just when his form was on the up was also a big blow to the Bears this year. Oh well, if only Charles was told, no you can't go to Poland! Never mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerM22 Posted September 24, 2023 Report Share Posted September 24, 2023 8 hours ago, Bellers101 said: Oh well, if only Charles was told, no you can't go to Poland! Never mind. You might've had him for the playoffs then, but that attitude would probably have resulted in him being elsewhere permanently next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted September 24, 2023 Report Share Posted September 24, 2023 10 hours ago, Bellers101 said: Oh well, if only Charles was told, no you can't go to Poland! Never mind. OK, he wouldn't have been injured (but could quite easily have riding for Redcar) but, he wouldn't have been able to ride anyway because he would have been banned worldwide for 28 days. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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