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Ipswich Witches vs Belle Vue Aces (new playoff semi 1st leg) 21/09/23


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23 minutes ago, foreverblue said:

Dan has clearly not done it this year, couldn't believe he scored less than Holder in the cup. Kurtz has outscored him all season, you would have thought he would want to do better for his home club,strange how someone like Musielak always seems pull it all out for Sheffield.

Kurtz has been our best rider for a couple of seasons now, agree about Musielak great rider, reliable and can ride all tracks big or small, will be a big miss for Sheffield.

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No point pointing the finger at BV riders. They've had a great season in the whole, but all seven had a poor meeting last night and will be disappointed with their scores.

Track conditions didn't help obviously, and Bewley doesn't seem to like the Foxhall stack, but it's not an excuse the better and more committed team won easily on the night

 

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8 minutes ago, bellevueace said:

Kurtz has been our best rider for a couple of seasons now, agree about Musielak great rider, reliable and can ride all tracks big or small, will be a big miss for Sheffield.

Over the course of this season Kurtz has scored 3 points more than Bewley

7 points more over the last 20 rolling matches

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5 minutes ago, Garry1603 said:

No point pointing the finger at BV riders. They've had a great season in the whole, but all seven had a poor meeting last night and will be disappointed with their scores.

Track conditions didn't help obviously, and Bewley doesn't seem to like the Foxhall stack, but it's not an excuse the better and more committed team won easily on the night

 

Kurtz and Brennan weren't poor, they can be proud of their efforts.  We missed Charles and the other 4 just didn't ride to thier level.  No excuses as even with out Charles we should of been good enough to keep it below 10 points.  But that's Speedway, let's see what Monday brings, but realistically its going to be very difficult to pull back 18.  

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The interesting thing for me is how much Kurtz has improved on the tighter more technical tracks over the last couple of years. There were times not too long ago, when you knew if he went to Monmore or Foxhall, he would be useless and not up for it at all. He hated those type of tracks. He's now applied himself admirably and looks a quality rider at the tighter more technical tracks. Dan last night kept himself safe for the weekend. He always ran mid track where the bike was comfortable to ride. 

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13 minutes ago, Garry1603 said:

No point pointing the finger at BV riders. They've had a great season in the whole, but all seven had a poor meeting last night and will be disappointed with their scores.

Track conditions didn't help obviously, and Bewley doesn't seem to like the Foxhall stack, but it's not an excuse the better and more committed team won easily on the night

 

Bewley hasnt had a great season, his average is way below his ability.

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9 minutes ago, wtf said:

The interesting thing for me is how much Kurtz has improved on the tighter more technical tracks over the last couple of years. There were times not too long ago, when you knew if he went to Monmore or Foxhall, he would be useless and not up for it at all. He hated those type of tracks. He's now applied himself admirably and looks a quality rider at the tighter more technical tracks. Dan last night kept himself safe for the weekend. He always ran mid track where the bike was comfortable to ride. 

Looks like he's always been pretty useful around Ippo:

Brady Kurtz at Ipswich
 
 
No.
  Points
Total
 
Thu Apr 13th 2023
5
9
 
 
Thu Jul 13th 2023
5
9
 
 
Thu Sep 21st 2023
1
10
 
 
 
Thu May 5th 2022
5
11
+1
 
Thu Jul 14th 2022
3
10
+1
 
Thu Sep 29th 2022
5
11
+1
 
 
Thu May 20th 2021
1
13
+1
 
Thu Jul 8th 2021
1
13
 
 
 
Thu Aug 29th 2019
5
12
+1
 
Sat Sep 28th 2019
Ipswich v Poole (PRPO)
1
3
+1
 
 
Thu Apr 9th 2015
3
6
 
 
Thu Jun 18th 2015
1
6
+3
 
 
Thu Apr 3rd 2014
3
2
+1
 
Thu Jun 5th 2014
3
4
 
 
Thu Jul 24th 2014
3
6
 
 

 

He has improved at Wolves, he was far from "useless" though, except for his first visit, which you could maybe excuse:

Brady Kurtz at Wolverhampton
 
 
No.
  Points
Total
 
Mon Apr 10th 2023
5
4
 
 
Mon May 29th 2023
5
14
+1
 
Mon Jul 10th 2023
5
10
+1
 
 
Mon Apr 18th 2022
5
7
 
 
Mon Aug 29th 2022
3
15
 
 
 
Mon Jul 26th 2021
1
5
+1
 
Mon Aug 30th 2021
5
10
+1
 
 
Mon Jun 24th 2019
5
4
 
 
Mon Aug 26th 2019
5
9
 
 
 
Mon Apr 23rd 2018
1
12
 
 
Mon May 28th 2018
1
7
 
 
 
Mon Mar 27th 2017
3
4
 
 
 
Mon May 2nd 2016
6
6
 
 
Mon Sep 5th 2016
4
8
 
 
Wed Sep 28th 2016
2
0
 
 
 
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Ipswich wanted it more. Congratulations to you guys. 
 

Very disappointing result for us. In fact quite angry about it. 
 

ipswich deserved the big lead they have. 

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10 minutes ago, SUPERACE said:

Kurtz and Brennan weren't poor, they can be proud of their efforts.  We missed Charles and the other 4 just didn't ride to thier level.  No excuses as even with out Charles we should of been good enough to keep it below 10 points.  But that's Speedway, let's see what Monday brings, but realistically its going to be very difficult to pull back 18.  

Charles was a big miss and it may have counted against you that Ipswich have ridden more recently. The track played a part and probably counted in their favour with the conditions not suiting Belle Vue also Blodorn was poor and you would have been better off with a guest as he may have come back too soon.

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Just now, Phil The Ace said:

Ipswich wanted it more. Congratulations to you guys. 
 

Very disappointing result for us. In fact quite angry about it. 
 

ipswich deserved the big lead they have. 

See Sheffield have got R Lambert in for Monday....:rolleyes: not taking anything away from Bomber as he was awesome last night. However, it does beg the question whether Ipswich went for him or not? 

Also, thought Lambert wasn't allowed to guest as he is/was on an "Assessed Average"?

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18 minutes ago, wtf said:

The interesting thing for me is how much Kurtz has improved on the tighter more technical tracks over the last couple of years. There were times not too long ago, when you knew if he went to Monmore or Foxhall, he would be useless and not up for it at all. He hated those type of tracks. He's now applied himself admirably and looks a quality rider at the tighter more technical tracks. Dan last night kept himself safe for the weekend. He always ran mid track where the bike was comfortable to ride. 

Kurtz has always been handy at Ipswich tbh, always wanted to get him here in his early days when he was first over with Somerset in the second tier, of his generation of the top Aussies Kurtz/holder/fricke he’s always been comfortably the best at Ipswich as an away rider

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2 minutes ago, 89buttons said:

Kurtz has always been handy at Ipswich tbh, always wanted to get him here in his early days when he was first over with Somerset in the second tier, of his generation of the top Aussies Kurtz/holder/fricke he’s always been comfortably the best at Ipswich as an away rider

Fricke is pretty good at Ipswich too, tricky decision on which guest to use although Sheffield may have already got Fricke for their play offs but if Doyle is back Sheffield can't use Harris.

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1 hour ago, TTT said:

How do you explain Bewley's UK season then?

If he's struggling in Britain then he should be struggling in the GP's and Ekstraliga if it's down to the rider himself because the GP's and Ekstraliga is at a World Class level.

He's only struggling in Britain, The weakest league / competition in his diary therefore it has to be equipment related because their is no other explanation for it.

Have you asked him?

I'm afraid it's much more likely to be mentality and capability related than anything to do with equipment. Kurtz was poor in some of his rides last night but won two near the end when he'd got his head around it, as he explained in his interview. 

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9 minutes ago, foreverblue said:

The powers that be tried to mess up Ipswich by not letting them use Joe T.Backfired a bit as Jack Smith got 2 which is probably no less than Joe would have got.

He was also on the pace and would have had another if he hadn't made a mistake and fallen. 

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13 minutes ago, foreverblue said:

Really I thought you couldn't use a rider with an assessed average.

If only there was something in black and white / regulations/ rules to confirm this .

1. Lambert on latest green sheets has * next to his name denoting he's assessed ( not established) 

012.4.2 Guest Rider (G) Replaces an absent regular team member subject to the following: - a) if the absent rider, with an established MA, is in the top 1-5 of the  team, then the missing rider’s MA will be enhanced by +5% at a  home meeting to determine the allowance for the guest rider

 

Oh well......not as though in same rules/ regulations it could 100% prove that Joe Thompson was ineligible last night... 

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