4BenMoran Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 1 hour ago, bellevueace said: Ive felt for a while he regrets riding the UK this season, best bikes no doubt in Poland, just feels weve been sold short. Like Sheffield when they had Ellis, spent big £££ on foreign kit and rock up to UK with a bag of spanners and hope it does the job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 1 hour ago, SPEEDY69 said: I don't buy that at all, he'll be wanting to win all the races he's in. No reason for his machinery to be sub-standard with all the money he's making and why would you want to lose races. He's just being beaten. The UK is not as easy as some think. Maybe it isn't but Bewley wins GP's and has just scored paid seventeen away from home in an Extraliga final. Something doesn't add up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 Bewley quite clearly does not like the track..his scores before that show that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 Dan is one of my favourite riders but it's clear to see that he's on poor equipment in the UK. GP's & Ekstraliga (World Class Equipment) Swedish League (Good Equipment) British League (Leftover Equipment) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 2 hours ago, foreverblue said: I hope Ipswich win it got 11/2 the other day Welcome to the party lol. I think we're all on them at a big price. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 Just got back in... Crowd seemed decent, not sure how that fits against a normal one but the car park was reasonably well used.. Had to use my key to find my car... Racing was pretty average to be honest but I presume track prep was dictated to by the forecast.. Interesting everyone thought King and Bomber would "love the mud", but there wasnt any, and the track was slick all night... For the Aces, Dan was involved in four heats that saw a 12 point deficit which isn't really good enough for a top five GP rider, and you would have expected at least two wins from a rider of his talent, even if Emil may end up beating him twice. Two wins off Dan against the other Witches and the deficit could have been 12 points.. The rear end of his bike in the first race looked strange when he did a practice start on the back straight and his mechanics were waiting for him on the home straight as if they were expecting something to happen. He didn't seem to have "Polish Speed" that's for sure... Brady, Tom and Jaimon can walk away satisfied with their contribution, the other 3 definitely not so... The Witches were just more aggressive from Heat One and ran out deserving winners... However, leads like they have can quickly get reduced at the NSS so not over yet... I must admit, part of me would like to see the Aces lose overall by two, as it would mean a cracking meeting, and Jack Smiths second tonight then would be the "difference maker"... No one calling for King, Riss and Hawkins to be sacked tonight I notice... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 7 hours ago, TTT said: Dan is one of my favourite riders but it's clear to see that he's on poor equipment in the UK. GP's & Ekstraliga (World Class Equipment) Swedish League (Good Equipment) British League (Leftover Equipment) Nonsense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 Bewley’s not been as dominant as could have been expected this season, but I don’t think he’s been phoning it it. For one of the best in the world on tracks he has seen plenty of in the past his away form has been bad. His form around Foxhall is truly awful (relative to his ability) though. Three visits this season and he has averaged 5.24. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 As kurtz said in a good interview at the end, it needed to be mentally attacked, indicating nothing to do with the bikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 12 minutes ago, Ben91 said: Bewley’s not been as dominant as could have been expected this season, but I don’t think he’s been phoning it it. For one of the best in the world on tracks he has seen plenty of in the past his away form has been bad. His form around Foxhall is truly awful (relative to his ability) though. Three visits this season and he has averaged 5.24. One of his bogie tracks for sure, it's not a billiards table throttle fest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 Bewley being out performed home & away by Kurtz is unacceptable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedwayFan91 Posted September 22, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 Wrocław obviously had a word in Bewley’s ear before this meeting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 19 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: Bewley being out performed home & away by Kurtz is unacceptable. Easily solved then - just get Kurtz to slowdown 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 6 hours ago, mikebv said: Just got back in... Crowd seemed decent, not sure how that fits against a normal one but the car park was reasonably well used.. Had to use my key to find my car... Racing was pretty average to be honest but I presume track prep was dictated to by the forecast.. Interesting everyone thought King and Bomber would "love the mud", but there wasnt any, and the track was slick all night... For the Aces, Dan was involved in four heats that saw a 12 point deficit which isn't really good enough for a top five GP rider, and you would have expected at least two wins from a rider of his talent, even if Emil may end up beating him twice. Two wins off Dan against the other Witches and the deficit could have been 12 points.. The rear end of his bike in the first race looked strange when he did a practice start on the back straight and his mechanics were waiting for him on the home straight as if they were expecting something to happen. He didn't seem to have "Polish Speed" that's for sure... Brady, Tom and Jaimon can walk away satisfied with their contribution, the other 3 definitely not so... The Witches were just more aggressive from Heat One and ran out deserving winners... However, leads like they have can quickly get reduced at the NSS so not over yet... I must admit, part of me would like to see the Aces lose overall by two, as it would mean a cracking meeting, and Jack Smiths second tonight then would be the "difference maker"... No one calling for King, Riss and Hawkins to be sacked tonight I notice... The racing was pretty non existent as it generally is at Foxhall, it was all starts and first corners, after that it was pretty much follow the leader. Ipswich appeared to show more interest than Belle Vue and the result of the tie is all but over, biggest smile of the night was reserved for Ritchie Hawkins whose moustache made him look like a old style cowboy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 8 hours ago, TTT said: Welcome to the party lol. I think we're all on them at a big price. Regretting not putting more on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 8 hours ago, orion said: Bewley quite clearly does not like the track..his scores before that show that. That's fair enough and clearly a factor but you'd still expect one of the top half a dozen riders in the world to score more than five. He had a modest score in Sweden on Tuesday too, it's pretty clear where his priorities lie this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 6 hours ago, mikebv said: Just got back in... Crowd seemed decent, not sure how that fits against a normal one but the car park was reasonably well used.. Had to use my key to find my car... Racing was pretty average to be honest but I presume track prep was dictated to by the forecast.. Interesting everyone thought King and Bomber would "love the mud", but there wasnt any, and the track was slick all night... For the Aces, Dan was involved in four heats that saw a 12 point deficit which isn't really good enough for a top five GP rider, and you would have expected at least two wins from a rider of his talent, even if Emil may end up beating him twice. Two wins off Dan against the other Witches and the deficit could have been 12 points.. The rear end of his bike in the first race looked strange when he did a practice start on the back straight and his mechanics were waiting for him on the home straight as if they were expecting something to happen. He didn't seem to have "Polish Speed" that's for sure... Brady, Tom and Jaimon can walk away satisfied with their contribution, the other 3 definitely not so... The Witches were just more aggressive from Heat One and ran out deserving winners... However, leads like they have can quickly get reduced at the NSS so not over yet... I must admit, part of me would like to see the Aces lose overall by two, as it would mean a cracking meeting, and Jack Smiths second tonight then would be the "difference maker"... No one calling for King, Riss and Hawkins to be sacked tonight I notice... Dan has clearly not done it this year, couldn't believe he scored less than Holder in the cup. Kurtz has outscored him all season, you would have thought he would want to do better for his home club,strange how someone like Musielak always seems pull it all out for Sheffield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 1 hour ago, SPEEDY69 said: Nonsense How do you explain Bewley's UK season then? If he's struggling in Britain then he should be struggling in the GP's and Ekstraliga if it's down to the rider himself because the GP's and Ekstraliga is at a World Class level. He's only struggling in Britain, The weakest league / competition in his diary therefore it has to be equipment related because their is no other explanation for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 10 hours ago, SPEEDY69 said: I don't buy that at all, he'll be wanting to win all the races he's in. No reason for his machinery to be sub-standard with all the money he's making and why would you want to lose races. He's just being beaten. The UK is not as easy as some think. It's amazing how quickly some fans turn on a rider... and their talisman as well Looking at his record around Foxhole, he pretty much rode to type Dan Bewley at Ipswich No. Points Total Thu Apr 13th 2023 Ipswich v Belle Vue (PRa) 1 2, 3, 1, 1, 1 8 Thu Jul 13th 2023 Ipswich v Belle Vue (PRb) 1 2, X, 2, 0 4 Thu May 20th 2021 Ipswich v Belle Vue (PRa) 3 2, 2, 2', 3, 1' 10 +2 Thu Jul 8th 2021 Ipswich v Belle Vue (PRb) 5 1', 3, 3, 0, 0 7 +1 Thu Apr 18th 2019 Ipswich v Belle Vue (PRa) 3 0, R, 0 0 Thu Jul 12th 2018 Ipswich v Workington (CP) 4 X, 1', 1, 1, 3, 0 6 +1 Thu May 4th 2017 Ipswich v Glasgow (CPa) 2 2, F, 1', 1, 1' 5 +2 Thu Aug 3rd 2017 Ipswich v Glasgow (CPb) 4 0, 1, 1', 3 5 +1 Thu May 19th 2016 Ipswich v Edinburgh (PL) 7 X, 0, 0, 2, 0 2 I agree with you about the standard of the BL, it's not as easy as some think, if you look through the Polish teams, yes some are very strong, but others are filled with Danny King types, riders who are pretty useful in their own country. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Daniel Smith said: Bewley being out performed home & away by Kurtz is unacceptable. Kurtz has been improving each season to be fair to him. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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