SteveLyric2 Posted October 8, 2023 Report Share Posted October 8, 2023 58 minutes ago, Broadsider said: We travel the 120 mile trek to Scunny every week! It’s even further still to Redcar and both Sheffield/ Belle Vue involve a 70 mile round trip! All of these are stretching it, from a cost point of view, for most fans in the North/ West/ East Yorks belt. The supporter interest generated both old and new in those regions would comfortably sustain the Odsal investment in my opinion. The problem with British Speedway is that promoting nous and ambition has been at virtual zero for decades. Supposed promoters have focused inwardly and even their ability to do that is questionable. I’m certain that financial investment in the sport has never been higher than currently brought by Discovery Sports. With British Speedway withering to the point of extinction before our very eyes, l see it as a great opportunity to utilise some of that funding to collectively reinvest in a proper stadia/ track to help sustain/ grow the sport. If you think back when we had real entrepreneurial promoters, then if one door closed they just moved on and opened up in another Town/ City. The sport kept moving forward and expanding. As it stands we have a total of 14 tracks left and potentially more in that number on the brink due to potential land development. If we don’t counter this by getting out there, promoting and opening up new venues then Speedway is dead and buried in this country for sure. So where are these new venues then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted October 8, 2023 Report Share Posted October 8, 2023 51 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: So where are these new venues then? I think the point he’s making is promoters found a way. Yes we have more going against speedway in terms of venues these days. If there was money to be made by promoting speedway tracks would open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 Is it not possible that Morris was saying this just to add weight to the Coventry cause and putting speedway in a positive light, knowing that nobody can prove him right or wrong....? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 22 minutes ago, The Dog said: Is it not possible that Morris was saying this just to add weight to the Coventry cause and putting speedway in a positive light, knowing that nobody can prove him right or wrong....? Well he repeated it in last week's Speedway Star so there has to be some truth in it whether 2024 or '25. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Well he repeated it in last week's Speedway Star so there has to be some truth in it whether 2024 or '25. I'd like to think so but I'm not sure we can look that far ahead anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 Interesting, although a little confusing, all the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Tsunami Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 On 10/8/2023 at 11:14 AM, 25yearfan said: Spedeworth need speedway at Foxhall to make the venue financially viable and I believe have a decent relationship with the MIldenhall speedway promotion at West Row Stadium which they either own or have the lease for. Brafield raceway was shaled over a few years back and staged speedway in the 50's and 60's. I always wondered why this venue was never opened up in the late 60's and early 70's when the success and viability of the new 2nd Division saw many would be (and already existing ) promotors look at all sorts of different venues and locations to run a 2nd tier team out of? Spedeworth are only tenants at Great Yarmouth but the owners aren't against speedway indeed they are the same family who owned it when speedway was staged there in the 40's - 60's and former Bloaters rider Billy Bales opened the new restaurant there about a decade ago. - That said the track would be extremely small and the speedway closed there in 1961 cause they could only get a viable crowd in the holiday period. Hednesford did stage a few open meetings and speedway practise sessions after the war so would it qualify as a new speedway venue? - Not far out of the Birmingham/Black Country conurbation speedway hotbed which is just about to lose another track in Wolves. Could this venue work as a speedway venue? I hope Phil Morris' words of hope about a new track bear fruition! Brafield was one of 6 clubs, along with Newcastle, who were active to try and start a parallel second league in 1996. BSPA got wind of it and created the new Premier League. Teams were invited to join, and only after we had joined,. were we informed that they would not agree to our pay rates and we all found we had to run with higher points money level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Tsunami Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 On 10/8/2023 at 3:29 PM, Broadsider said: We travel the 120 mile trek to Scunny every week! It’s even further still to Redcar and both Sheffield/ Belle Vue involve a 70 mile round trip! All of these are stretching it, from a cost point of view, for most fans in the North/ West/ East Yorks belt. The supporter interest generated both old and new in those regions would comfortably sustain the Odsal investment in my opinion. The problem with British Speedway is that promoting nous and ambition has been at virtual zero for decades. Supposed promoters have focused inwardly and even their ability to do that is questionable. I’m certain that financial investment in the sport has never been higher than currently brought by Discovery Sports. With British Speedway withering to the point of extinction before our very eyes, l see it as a great opportunity to utilise some of that funding to collectively reinvest in a proper stadia/ track to help sustain/ grow the sport. If you think back when we had real entrepreneurial promoters, then if one door closed they just moved on and opened up in another Town/ City. The sport kept moving forward and expanding. As it stands we have a total of 14 tracks left and potentially more in that number on the brink due to potential land development. If we don’t counter this by getting out there, promoting and opening up new venues then Speedway is dead and buried in this country for sure. Rumour had it that the Stocks promoter Steve Rees I think, was asking too much rent for speedway when he opened it again and not forgetting the 3/4th bends would not comply with current track regulations and also the need for new pits, riders car park, new electrics and mandatory air fence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 2 hours ago, 1Tsunami said: Rumour had it that the Stocks promoter Steve Rees I think, was asking too much rent for speedway when he opened it again and not forgetting the 3/4th bends would not comply with current track regulations and also the need for new pits, riders car park, new electrics and mandatory air fence. The main problem was something to do with the safety fence, it would have to be a special bespoke fence. The track is too narrow for FIM so international events wouldn't work but league racing would be fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted October 12, 2023 Report Share Posted October 12, 2023 Anyone know anything about the regeneration of the Crystal Palace Sports Stadium? It seems there is a Sports Consortium (with money) bringing the derelict stadium back to life?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted October 12, 2023 Report Share Posted October 12, 2023 9 hours ago, Skidder1 said: Anyone know anything about the regeneration of the Crystal Palace Sports Stadium? It seems there is a Sports Consortium (with money) bringing the derelict stadium back to life?? Is that the old saloon racing circuit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stadia Posted October 12, 2023 Report Share Posted October 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, Deano said: Is that the old saloon racing circuit? I think that circuit was in the film 'Rush', where James Hunt first started. I have a strong feeling that's long gone. I would imagine, it is the athletics stadium? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted October 13, 2023 Report Share Posted October 13, 2023 8 hours ago, Ray Stadia said: I think that circuit was in the film 'Rush', where James Hunt first started. I have a strong feeling that's long gone. I would imagine, it is the athletics stadium? Not sure Ray, this was the one I was thinking of. There are still small remnants of the racing circuit. https://www.google.com/maps/place/Crystal+Palace+National+Sports+Centre/@51.4207,-0.0754976,1123m/data=!3m2!1e3!5s0x487601680ceb81d5:0x245bc60de3f5638c!4m6!3m5!1s0x487601685d729577:0xab6c3c3ae0044d1!8m2!3d51.4210847!4d-0.0674402!16zL20vMDIwcTc1?entry=ttu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted October 13, 2023 Report Share Posted October 13, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, Deano said: Is that the old saloon racing circuit? Not sure? I believe its not just the old derelict athletics stadium but the whole complex that's being regenerated for a variety of sports. Edited October 13, 2023 by Skidder1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skodaman Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 Wasn't there talk of a new stadium near Southampton a couple of years ago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 4 hours ago, Skodaman said: Wasn't there talk of a new stadium near Southampton a couple of years ago? yes I read that and 2 know alls said i was talking bollx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sotonian Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 4 hours ago, Skodaman said: Wasn't there talk of a new stadium near Southampton a couple of years ago? I live there and have heard nothing about one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Sotonian said: I live there and have heard nothing about one. Just before Covid from memory. Near the M27 and Airport I think. They did indicate it would initially be a training track though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catalan Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 1 hour ago, HGould said: Just before Covid from memory. Near the M27 and Airport I think. They did indicate it would initially be a training track though. Unfortunately the owner died I think so that hit the buffers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stadia Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 7 minutes ago, Catalan said: Unfortunately the owner died I think so that hit the buffers I seem to recall there were plans, et al! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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