szkocjasid Posted March 17, 2024 Report Share Posted March 17, 2024 4 hours ago, szkocjasid said: I'd have Sayfutdinov & Doyle at 1 & 5 (depending who's higher at the time). King at 3 or 4. Rew & Ellis at 2,3 or 4. Jenkins when he moves into the top 5 at number 2. Don't see why they can't swap riders around based on the opposition. Not that you see many managers do that. 4 hours ago, Arch Stanton said: Hawkins is one that does actually. He was constantly changing the riding order from meeting to meeting last season, but that looks like the order for Belle Vue on Thursday to start with. I must have missed those swaps then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted March 18, 2024 Report Share Posted March 18, 2024 8 hours ago, szkocjasid said: I must have missed those swaps then. Hawkins openly admits he changes the riding order regularly depending on the opposition and form of riders. Not many do but he’s definitely a “tinker”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP78 Posted March 18, 2024 Report Share Posted March 18, 2024 14 hours ago, szkocjasid said: I must have missed those swaps then. From memory, I think the only team changes were direct swaps with 2 & 4, but I could be wrong... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P T Preece Posted March 26, 2024 Report Share Posted March 26, 2024 Brummies supporter, do they stream meeting at Ipswich, would like to know for Thursday, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted March 26, 2024 Report Share Posted March 26, 2024 9 hours ago, P T Preece said: Brummies supporter, do they stream meeting at Ipswich, would like to know for Thursday, thanks. A VHS tape will be avaiable within a few weeks 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted March 29, 2024 Report Share Posted March 29, 2024 (edited) In the pre-season review in the weeks Speedway Star Peter Adams makes the most bizarre take on the Witches riding order I've ever heard. The riding order is key but I never quite understood why they had Jason and Emil in heats 13 and 15. With the aggregate point being so important, in Heat 13 they could only get five points, whereas if you split them and didn't have them riding together in 13, there's the potential to score six points, home and away. I'd split them, I wouldn't have them at one and five. One of them needs to be at No. 3. Personally I've never heard such nonsense from someone with so much experience in the sport. While it's true 3+3 is better than 5, he does realise there's more than two riders in the Ipswich team right? For example Danny King in heat 12 should always have the beating of the opposition reserve, so scores 2 or 3. Putting Doyle in heat 12, may score an extra point, may not. But I think they are far more likely to lose points in heat 13 as even a good race by King (splitting the opposition) would be a point dropped. Edited March 29, 2024 by szkocjasid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted March 29, 2024 Report Share Posted March 29, 2024 Yes I didn’t understand his reasoning either. Thankfully it won’t happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted March 29, 2024 Report Share Posted March 29, 2024 On 3/26/2024 at 8:42 PM, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: A VHS tape will be avaiable within a few weeks Betamax... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted March 29, 2024 Report Share Posted March 29, 2024 28 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said: Yes I didn’t understand his reasoning either. Thankfully it won’t happen. A definitely possible 10-2 at the "business end" of the meeting... A no brainer isnt it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted March 29, 2024 Report Share Posted March 29, 2024 34 minutes ago, mikebv said: A definitely possible 10-2 at the "business end" of the meeting... A no brainer isnt it? Doyle and Emil in two of the last three heats is a strength. Not sure why you’d move away from that to be honest. It’s a strange suggestion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted March 29, 2024 Report Share Posted March 29, 2024 56 minutes ago, mikebv said: A definitely possible 10-2 at the "business end" of the meeting... A no brainer isn't it? Could not agree more. All they've got to do is keep it close all meeting, with a great chance of advantages in 13+15 for the win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted March 29, 2024 Report Share Posted March 29, 2024 21 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said: Doyle and Emil in two of the last three heats is a strength. Not sure why you’d move away from that to be honest. It’s a strange suggestion. Must put the pressure on the opposition too, knowing what's coming at the end of the match? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89buttons Posted March 29, 2024 Report Share Posted March 29, 2024 2 hours ago, szkocjasid said: In the pre-season review in the weeks Speedway Star Peter Adams makes the most bizarre take on the Witches riding order I've ever heard. The riding order is key but I never quite understood why they had Jason and Emil in heats 13 and 15. With the aggregate point being so important, in Heat 13 they could only get five points, whereas if you split them and didn't have them riding together in 13, there's the potential to score six points, home and away. I'd split them, I wouldn't have them at one and five. One of them needs to be at No. 3. Personally I've never heard such nonsense from someone with so much experience in the sport. While it's true 3+3 is better than 5, he does realise there's more than two riders in the Ipswich team right? For example Danny King in heat 12 should always have the beating of the opposition reserve, so scores 2 or 3. Putting Doyle in heat 12, may score an extra point, may not. But I think they are far more likely to lose points in heat 13 as even a good race by King (splitting the opposition) would be a point dropped. What a dumb strategy that is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted March 29, 2024 Report Share Posted March 29, 2024 1 hour ago, Arch Stanton said: Doyle and Emil in two of the last three heats is a strength. Not sure why you’d move away from that to be honest. It’s a strange suggestion. Certainly a strange one.He forgets they are racing the Opposition 1-5.in Heats 13. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralMelchett Posted March 29, 2024 Report Share Posted March 29, 2024 (edited) 2 hours ago, Arch Stanton said: Yes I didn’t understand his reasoning either. Thankfully it won’t happen. I am glad that others agree as I felt WTF when i read it. Having analysed it a bit I sort of understood where he was coming from but its also about neutralising the oppositions top 2 - he did highlight (indirectly) what was was an actual weakness as such for the Witches last year in that they were often vulnerable in heats 12 and 14 but that was more about a rider not riding to expectation at times. He mentioned about Wolves 5-1 ing the Witches but the Witches 5-1'd more! In fact in the meetings between the two sides the Witches got five 5-1's one 3-3 and two 1-5's v's the Wolves in heats 13 and 15. outscoring Wolves 30-18 in those crucial heats, bearing in mind Wolves actually won 3 of the 4 meetings between the two the issue wasn't in heats 13 and 15. Edited March 29, 2024 by GeneralMelchett 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralMelchett Posted March 29, 2024 Report Share Posted March 29, 2024 (edited) ooops duplicated! Edited March 29, 2024 by GeneralMelchett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted March 29, 2024 Report Share Posted March 29, 2024 25 minutes ago, GeneralMelchett said: I am glad that others agree as I felt WTF when i read it. Having analysed it a bit I sort of understood where he was coming from but its also about neutralising the oppositions top 2 - he did highlight (indirectly) what was was an actual weakness as such for the Witches last year in that they were often vulnerable in heats 12 and 14 but that was more about a rider not riding to expectation at times. He mentioned about Wolves 5-1 ing the Witches but the Witches 5-1'd more! Best way to combat that would be for King & Ellis (I'd put him at 4) to perform on those heats. Not moved Doyle away from heat 13 imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted March 29, 2024 Report Share Posted March 29, 2024 With Jenkins moving into the top 5 in April, i'd put him at number 2. But will Ipswich do a straight swap with Rew & use him at 4? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Thumb Posted March 29, 2024 Report Share Posted March 29, 2024 Jordan to 2, Adam to 4, Kenyan to 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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