Ipswich Witches 2024 serious team predictions

[KevtheRev]

13 hours ago, Daniel Smith said:

I'm not sure it's about "loyalty to British Speedway" with Doyle at all. He lives reasonably local & stated many times he wants more family time throughout the season. Riding for Ipswich gives him exactly that. 

Nothing more, nothing less. 

If he wasn't bothered about Ipswich or UK he could move his family to Sweden or Poland and still get family time.  He's committed to the UK and gets nowhere near enough credit.

If every GP rider was the same,  Speedway in the UK would be top notch.

[GeneralMelchett]

15 hours ago, Bagpuss said:

Absolutely.

Its great that he has ridden over here for so long but if he was married to a Swede or Pole I expect things could be quite different.

I suppse 'if your aunty had balls she'd have been your uncle' applies here.

Edited November 24, 2023 by GeneralMelchett

[Arch Stanton]

https://x.com/ipswichspeedway/status/1728009949517619414?s=46

[Bagpuss]

1 hour ago, GeneralMelchett said:

I suppse 'if your aunty had balls she'd have been your uncle' applies here.

Absolutely.

Just think the discussion needs a bit of balance.

[GeneralMelchett]

10 minutes ago, Bagpuss said:

Absolutely.

Just think the discussion needs a bit of balance.

On this point if you examine what Doyle said last season and this - it is clear his reasons for his staying at Ipswich for season no 3 (slightly different to his long service to British Speedway)  and perhaps a dig or too at former clubs - last season he mentioned about always being paid on time, and how well run Ipswich were, this year he describes the family atmosphere at the club.

 

 

[OdsalBoy]

Keynan Rew now listed on the Speedwaygb site as the 2nd signing

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20 minutes ago, OdsalBoy said:

Keynan Rew now listed on the Speedwaygb site as the 2nd signing

Just seen that announcement by Ipswich….

[Daniel Smith]

21 minutes ago, GeneralMelchett said:

On this point if you examine what Doyle said last season and this - it is clear his reasons for his staying at Ipswich for season no 3 (slightly different to his long service to British Speedway)  and perhaps a dig or too at former clubs - last season he mentioned about always being paid on time, and how well run Ipswich were, this year he describes the family atmosphere at the club.

 

 

Supporters of their teams in every sport always gets sucked in by 'love it here' statements. Very few (next to zero) talk the truth about their current employer. 

It's absolute fact that Doyle is only at Ipswich because it works for him right now, close to home & family & paid handsomely by TruPlant. 

Imagine the reaction if Doyle came out with "I'm only here because of family reasons. If it was a choice I'd be elsewhere because in truth, Ipswich is a s#!thole." 

Supporters (in the main) are deluded in defending their badge. It's understandable but Doyle is NOT at Ipswich through his "loyalty to British Speedway." 

[GeneralMelchett]

4 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said:

Supporters of their teams in every sport always gets sucked in by 'love it here' statements. Very few (next to zero) talk the truth about their current employer. 

It's absolute fact that Doyle is only at Ipswich because it works for him right now, close to home & family & paid handsomely by TruPlant. 

Imagine the reaction if Doyle came out with "I'm only here because of family reasons. If it was a choice I'd be elsewhere because in truth, Ipswich is a s#!thole." 

Supporters (in the main) are deluded in defending their badge. It's understandable but Doyle is NOT at Ipswich through his "loyalty to British Speedway." 

[Falcon1983]

14 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said:

Supporters of their teams in every sport always gets sucked in by 'love it here' statements. Very few (next to zero) talk the truth about their current employer. 

It's absolute fact that Doyle is only at Ipswich because it works for him right now, close to home & family & paid handsomely by TruPlant. 

Imagine the reaction if Doyle came out with "I'm only here because of family reasons. If it was a choice I'd be elsewhere because in truth, Ipswich is a s#!thole." 

Supporters (in the main) are deluded in defending their badge. It's understandable but Doyle is NOT at Ipswich through his "loyalty to British Speedway." 

Of course Doyle is at Ipswich through his Loyalty to British Speedway  he could well also be at any other club, due to his Loyalty to British Speedway 

Lots of questions of IF IF IF 

If he didn't live in the UK, if his partner wasn't English

Lets judge it based on facts

 

[Bash]

19 hours ago, Arch Stanton said:

Just going by the stats Buttons. Over all meetings last season, Doyle 10.53 at Foxhall, Emil 9.76  

Do those averages include bonus points, as if not they will be closer?

[Arch Stanton]

7 minutes ago, Bash said:

Do those averages include bonus points, as if not they will be closer?

Doyle 11.02 GSA 10.53

Emil 10.51 GSA 9.76

All Foxhall meetings. 

[Bash]

That's what I thought with the amount of 5-1's between the pair, not a lot of points dropped at home between them

[89buttons]

45 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said:

Supporters of their teams in every sport always gets sucked in by 'love it here' statements. Very few (next to zero) talk the truth about their current employer. 

It's absolute fact that Doyle is only at Ipswich because it works for him right now, close to home & family & paid handsomely by TruPlant. 

Imagine the reaction if Doyle came out with "I'm only here because of family reasons. If it was a choice I'd be elsewhere because in truth, Ipswich is a s#!thole." 

Supporters (in the main) are deluded in defending their badge. It's understandable but Doyle is NOT at Ipswich through his "loyalty to British Speedway." 

So you’re questioning Doyle’s integrity then? As well as slagging off Ipswich as a club? For what?

[Daniel Smith]

10 minutes ago, 89buttons said:

So you’re questioning Doyle’s integrity then? As well as slagging off Ipswich as a club? For what?

Done neither. Doyle's integrity & loyalty is with his family. Riding for Ipswich is a job & what he deems best for himself & family right now. 

Nothing to do with any love or loyalty for Ipswich &/or British Speedway. 

[wtf]

Think a few people are getting a little carried away. Jason Doyle will do what's best for Jason Doyle and his family. And so he should. Riding in the UK suits him and his family, Riding for Ipswich suits him and his family. And in return he performs week in week out and gives value for money to his employers end of. 

If you want to put him on a pedestal of integrity and loyalty and he does it for the love of the fans etc, might want to ask Leszno how they feel about him. 

[observer]

On 11/23/2023 at 10:40 AM, siggysigalos said:

Jason Doyle is 1st announced...But no mention of being Captain.

King will still have it 

 

[Racin Jason 72]

2 hours ago, Daniel Smith said:

Done neither. Doyle's integrity & loyalty is with his family. Riding for Ipswich is a job & what he deems best for himself & family right now. 

Nothing to do with any love or loyalty for Ipswich &/or British Speedway. 

You are confusing Robert lambert with Jason Doyle surely.  I know I’d take Doyle every time in my team than that mercenary. 

[89buttons]

2 hours ago, Daniel Smith said:

Done neither. Doyle's integrity & loyalty is with his family. Riding for Ipswich is a job & what he deems best for himself & family right now. 

Nothing to do with any love or loyalty for Ipswich &/or British Speedway. 

So when Doyle says he’s loves riding for Ipswich and it’s like a family what are you doing saying it’s rubbish and it’s just convenient?? That’s questioning the integrity of his word and I just can’t understand your rhetoric

Edited November 24, 2023 by 89buttons

[Bagpuss]

34 minutes ago, Racin Jason 72 said:

You are confusing Robert lambert with Jason Doyle surely.  I know I’d take Doyle every time in my team than that mercenary. 

The discussion has nothing to do with Robert Lambert

(Who incidently lives in Poland with his Polish girlfriend....that's the difference)

I'm sure Doyle does love riding for Ipswich, they are a good club. And despite the A140 being the work of the devil it's extremely convenient for someone living in Norwich to ride there.

He's never been my cup of tea but I want as many top riders in the UK as possible. He's doing what's best for him and his family in a short career, as a self employed tradesman that's absolutely right. But his 'loyalty' to the UK is a by product of that.