therefused Posted July 20, 2024 Report Share Posted July 20, 2024 On 7/19/2024 at 7:51 PM, iainb said: hasn't he just let one go to Birmingham? Expand Palm toft isn’t a number 1 or 5 though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 20, 2024 Report Share Posted July 20, 2024 (edited) On 7/20/2024 at 6:15 AM, therefused said: Palm toft isn’t a number 1 or 5 though Expand No, @Bagpuss was talking about replacing "unavailable" riders, I believe Ben Basso is your Number 1 now Musielak has been "released". Beggars can't be choosers Edited July 20, 2024 by iainb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted July 20, 2024 Report Share Posted July 20, 2024 On 7/20/2024 at 7:07 AM, iainb said: No, @Bagpuss was talking about replacing "unavailable" riders, I believe Ben Basso is your Number 1 now Musielak has been "released". Beggars can't be choosers Expand Wasn't there a rule where you couldn't reintroduce a rider once replaced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 20, 2024 Report Share Posted July 20, 2024 On 7/20/2024 at 7:23 AM, tellboy said: Wasn't there a rule where you couldn't reintroduce a rider once replaced. Expand Lyon himself said on TV that they'd review the situation when MPT was fit to return, I don't know what the rules are but I'd hope he would... but the rules seem to have been abandoned long ago anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted July 20, 2024 Report Share Posted July 20, 2024 On 7/20/2024 at 7:07 AM, iainb said: No, @Bagpuss was talking about replacing "unavailable" riders, I believe Ben Basso is your Number 1 now Musielak has been "released". Beggars can't be choosers Expand I think you know very well that MPT is way off the level of the two unavailable riders. To be honest I'd have no problem with Lynn being forced to use Palm Toft after 28 days of a facility ie some kind of rider control as I hate guests and R/R but as that doesn't happen then the club are going to do what makes them strongest for each meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 20, 2024 Report Share Posted July 20, 2024 On 7/20/2024 at 8:37 AM, Bagpuss said: I think you know very well that MPT is way off the level of the two unavailable riders. To be honest I'd have no problem with Lynn being forced to use Palm Toft after 28 days of a facility ie some kind of rider control as I hate guests and R/R but as that doesn't happen then the club are going to do what makes them strongest for each meeting. Expand Who are your "unavailable" riders, I've lost track tbh. MPT would be an adequate replacement for Klindt... especially when it starts to get cold again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS50 Posted July 20, 2024 Report Share Posted July 20, 2024 On 7/20/2024 at 7:23 AM, tellboy said: Wasn't there a rule where you couldn't reintroduce a rider once replaced. Expand I seem to remember that from a few years ago. Could have changed though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted July 20, 2024 Report Share Posted July 20, 2024 On 7/20/2024 at 8:58 AM, iainb said: Who are your "unavailable" riders, I've lost track tbh. MPT would be an adequate replacement for Klindt... especially when it starts to get cold again Expand He really wouldn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 20, 2024 Report Share Posted July 20, 2024 On 7/20/2024 at 10:23 AM, Bagpuss said: He really wouldn't. Expand They've been pretty much of a muchness until MPT's injuries in recent seasons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted July 20, 2024 Report Share Posted July 20, 2024 On 7/20/2024 at 7:23 AM, tellboy said: Wasn't there a rule where you couldn't reintroduce a rider once replaced. Expand Most rules like that are subject to management committee approval, if a club in Lynn's position wanted to reintroduce MPT, there would be no reason not to let them. This wasn't a clever swapping round of rider due to averages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted July 20, 2024 Report Share Posted July 20, 2024 On 7/20/2024 at 10:31 AM, iainb said: They've been pretty much of a muchness until MPT's injuries in recent seasons Expand You obviously didn't have the pleasure to watch them both week in week out over the last few seasons. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted July 20, 2024 Report Share Posted July 20, 2024 On 7/20/2024 at 7:48 AM, iainb said: Lyon himself said on TV that they'd review the situation when MPT was fit to return, I don't know what the rules are but I'd hope he would... but the rules seem to have been abandoned long ago anyway Expand The rules are controlled by the SCB now (rightly so) so once they are in the rule book that’s what everyone is tied to, Neil Vatcher rules on anything now and does it fairly I am told. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted July 20, 2024 Report Share Posted July 20, 2024 On 7/20/2024 at 11:06 AM, szkocjasid said: Most rules like that are subject to management committee approval, if a club in Lynn's position wanted to reintroduce MPT, there would be no reason not to let them. This wasn't a clever swapping round of rider due to averages. Expand Their would, he is now In Birminghams team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 20, 2024 Report Share Posted July 20, 2024 On 7/20/2024 at 11:48 AM, bigcatdiary said: The rules are controlled by the SCB now (rightly so) so once they are in the rule book that’s what everyone is tied to, Neil Vatcher rules on anything now and does it fairly I am told. Expand Fairly inconsistently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted July 20, 2024 Report Share Posted July 20, 2024 On 7/20/2024 at 8:58 AM, iainb said: Who are your "unavailable" riders, I've lost track tbh. MPT would be an adequate replacement for Klindt... especially when it starts to get cold again Expand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted July 20, 2024 Report Share Posted July 20, 2024 On 7/20/2024 at 11:54 AM, iainb said: Fairly inconsistently Expand So exactly what rule has been applied inconsistently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted July 20, 2024 Report Share Posted July 20, 2024 On 7/20/2024 at 11:48 AM, bigcatdiary said: The rules are controlled by the SCB now (rightly so) so once they are in the rule book that’s what everyone is tied to, Neil Vatcher rules on anything now and does it fairly I am told. Expand Apart from Edinburgh’s NDL team, to name one. Your post is a lovely idea though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 20, 2024 Report Share Posted July 20, 2024 (edited) On 7/20/2024 at 12:13 PM, bigcatdiary said: So exactly what rule has been applied inconsistently. Expand I don't really want to rake over old ground as it's all been done to death elsewhere but... Jason Doyle & Rohan Tungate, and you can now probably add Claus Vissing and Celina Liebmann to that list now... and Jack Holder missing meetings And the Nico Covatti, Brady Kurtz, Tobias Musielak debacles And meeting cancellation rules... the list goes on Edited July 20, 2024 by iainb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP78 Posted July 20, 2024 Report Share Posted July 20, 2024 Any update on how Dan T’s shoulder is? Is he likely to be back for Thursday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted July 20, 2024 Report Share Posted July 20, 2024 On 7/20/2024 at 12:22 PM, iainb said: I don't really want to rake over old ground as it's all been done to death elsewhere but... Jason Doyle & Rohan Tungate, and you can now probably add Claus Vissing and Celina Liebmann to that list now... and Jack Holder missing meetings And the Nico Covatti, Brady Kurtz, Tobias Musielak debacles And meeting cancellation rules... the list goes on Expand Delete Brady please. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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