Ipswich Witches 2024 serious team predictions

[Bagpuss]

11 hours ago, Spidvej said:

Wow ! 
 

You think that’s a personal attack ? What a sheltered life you must lead ! 
 

 

There is really no need to refer to people as idiots and write posts like you are thirteen years old. Surely we can all debate and discuss in a mature and controlled manner? Not difficult to show some manners and be mature.

[Bagpuss]

12 hours ago, Aries said:

 

 

You knew exactly what you were doing as you started it all with the post above, quickly backed up by another Lynn fan. A Peterborough supporter and a Belle Vue supporter commend the man’s loyalty and lo and behold two Lynn fans immediately respond to argue against it. Why would you even want to start that “debate”? Just comes across as envy and pettiness to be honest. Is it convenient and financially beneficial to him, of course it is nobody has said otherwise to my knowledge, but he does genuinely seem to love riding for Ipswich that’s pretty obvious too and I’ve no doubt they were his first choice. He goes above and beyond what needs to be said when riders sign for clubs

The fact that I'm a Lynn fan is neither here nor there, I don't really consider there to be that much of a rivalry between Lynn, Ipswich and P'boro nowadays. Maybe years ago when riders had deep club loyalties and didn't double up ir ride abroad, but not really any more. I admire Ipswich a lot  they're a great club. I didn't expect this whole thing to blow up as it has, I just wanted to balance out the whole loyalty thing and the clog that other riders who don't base themselves in the UK get for not being 'loyal'.

And Doyle has had agreements with Lynn in the recent past, but obviously it all comes down to the deals offered which is absolutely fair enough, and happens every year with many different riders.

[Daniel Smith]

5 hours ago, 89buttons said:

So you’ll take what he said 2 years ago as gospel but what he’s said this close season is all a line for the fans and he doesn’t mean a word of it yeah?

Not denying what he's said this close season at all, all I'm saying is the main reason he rides British Speedway is to benefit himself as per above. Not for the love of British Speedway & / or Ipswich. 

I just don't get why fans feel upset by that. 

[Baldyman]

Of course the main reason he races in England and for Ipswich is for his benefit. 

[2ndbendbeerhut]

Dont ALL riders

17 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said:

Not denying what he's said this close season at all, all I'm saying is the main reason he rides British Speedway is to benefit himself as per above. Not for the love of British Speedway & / or Ipswich. 

I just don't get why fans feel upset by that. 

Don't ALL riders ride in British speedway to benefit themselves? 

Just like any other job, you do it to benefit yourself through a wage. 

[Daniel Smith]

1 minute ago, 2ndbendbeerhut said:

Dont ALL riders

Don't ALL riders ride in British speedway to benefit themselves? 

Just like any other job, you do it to benefit yourself through a wage. 

Finally, we're getting there. Jason Doyle has signed for Ipswich because it benefits him. 

Why are people upset by that?? 

[2ndbendbeerhut]

8 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said:

Finally, we're getting there. Jason Doyle has signed for Ipswich because it benefits him. 

Why are people upset by that?? 

So it's not just Jason Doyle .... its ALL riders but you have singled him out. 

No different to when Tony Rickardsson left Ipswich for Kings Lynn though   or was it? 

Edited November 26, 2023 by 2ndbendbeerhut

[Daniel Smith]

Just now, 2ndbendbeerhut said:

So it's not just Jason Doyle .... its ALL riders but you have singled him out. 

Bit different to when Tony Rickardsson left Ipswich for Kings Lynn though 

I haven't singled out Doyle. It's an Ipswich thread, an Ipswich signing & people banging on about his commitment to British Speedway & / or Ipswich. He's said himself he needs British Speedway because it makes him better in the GP's & Poland, benefiting himself to be here. 

Why should fans be upset by that?? 

[2ndbendbeerhut]

It's an Ipswich thread... where you have singled out Doyle for signing for the Witches as it benefits him..

Just like it will benefit the other 6 Witches.. but theres no mention of them? (OK only 1 other has been announced so far) 

Have you also posted on the other threads saying it will benefit their teams that they have signed 7 riders? Eg The Holders and Woffy grabbing the poor paying publics money at Sheffield. 

What about Laguta last year using the Stars for the money ( when he wasn't injured/ill/ cba ) 

Why arent you using Laguta as the example of a "moneygrabber" rather than Doyle who has ridden in the Uk since 2005. Is there any other non English rider who is as loyal to UK speedway as Jason Doyle? But hey its all about his benefit right? 

Maybe you should go back to the King's Lynn thread where you can talk about the Stars latest team of journeymen and mercenaries ( not Niels of course he's there for the love of Buster) 

Edited November 26, 2023 by 2ndbendbeerhut

[RogerM22]

48 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said:

Finally, we're getting there. Jason Doyle has signed for Ipswich because it benefits him. 

Why are people upset by that?? 

Is it mutually exclusive to be "committed" to British speedway and also ride here because it benefits him? As has been said, we all go to work because it benefits us but we can still be committed while we're there.

Jason Doyle came to this country 18 years ago and aside from 2009 has only missed riding here because of COVID. He is legitimately the definition of committed to British speedway.

6 hours ago, Bagpuss said:

There is really no need to refer to people as idiots and write posts like you are thirteen years old. Surely we can all debate and discuss in a mature and controlled manner? Not difficult to show some manners and be mature.

I agree, but they're right on this occasion.

[Bagpuss]

31 minutes ago, 2ndbendbeerhut said:

It's an Ipswich thread... where you have singled out Doyle for signing for the Witches as it benefits him..

Just like it will benefit the other 6 Witches.. but theres no mention of them? (OK only 1 other has been announced so far) 

Have you also posted on the other threads saying it will benefit their teams that they have signed 7 riders? Eg The Holders and Woffy grabbing the poor paying publics money at Sheffield. 

What about Laguta last year using the Stars for the money ( when he wasn't injured/ill/ cba ) 

Why arent you using Laguta as the example of a "moneygrabber" rather than Doyle who has ridden in the Uk since 2005. Is there any other non English rider who is as loyal to UK speedway as Jason Doyle? But hey its all about his benefit right? 

Maybe you should go back to the King's Lynn thread where you can talk about the Stars latest team of journeymen and mercenaries ( not Niels of course he's there for the love of Buster) 

I think the whole conversation started because folk were going OTT about Doyle's 'loyalty'.

As for Lynn's team, they are likely to be a mixture of returning riders, some from Buster's other club and one who is looking for a team because of the points limit. So I don't really see a 'mercenary' in there but there we are.

Wouldn't disagree about Laguta too much although I would say that when he was there he put in a lot more effort than people not at the meetings would assume and when he wasn't it was because Wroclaw ordered him to not ride.

 

[Aries]

7 hours ago, Bagpuss said:

There is really no need to refer to people as idiots and write posts like you are thirteen years old. Surely we can all debate and discuss in a mature and controlled manner? Not difficult to show some manners and be mature.

Why do you ALWAYS do this? You sit up there on your pedestal with your holier than thou attitude as if butter wouldn’t melt, and talk down to people like they’re naughty little school children every time someone says a word or two you don’t like! You do this so often, stop preaching down to people ffs. If  you think that post you were responding to was “abusive” then a forum these days isn’t for you. People can handle a few choice words and they certainly don’t need to be told by YOU to pack it in and get in line!! If you don’t like reading certain stuff from a particular poster and it becomes a theme with them, use the ignore button. 

[Daniel Smith]

33 minutes ago, Aries said:

Why do you ALWAYS do this? You sit up there on your pedestal with your holier than thou attitude as if butter wouldn’t melt, and talk down to people like they’re naughty little school children every time someone says a word or two you don’t like! You do this so often, stop preaching down to people ffs. If  you think that post you were responding to was “abusive” then a forum these days isn’t for you. People can handle a few choice words and they certainly don’t need to be told by YOU to pack it in and get in line!! If you don’t like reading certain stuff from a particular poster and it becomes a theme with them, use the ignore button. 

You'z angry blud, bare shook fam

[Aries]

16 hours ago, Daniel Smith said:

You'z angry blud, bare shook fam

[Daniel Smith]

6 minutes ago, Aries said:

Jesus fuc*ing Christ. What a bellend. 

Chill bruv

[Baldyman]

Oh come on kids,,, let's have a good swear off, and act like adults,,, I hate being nice to people,, 

[Aries]

2 minutes ago, Baldyman said:

Oh come on kids,,, let's have a good swear off, and act like adults,,, I hate being nice to people,, 

Careful, Mother Teresa will be along in a minute to call order. 

[RogerM22]

1 hour ago, Aries said:

Jesus fuc*ing Christ. What a bellend. 

You're wasting your time I reckon. This poster has been a bit of a reactive clown for a long time, now caught up in another ridiculous post and trying to avoid it after being called out.

[Bagpuss]

5 hours ago, Aries said:

Why do you ALWAYS do this? You sit up there on your pedestal with your holier than thou attitude as if butter wouldn’t melt, and talk down to people like they’re naughty little school children every time someone says a word or two you don’t like! You do this so often, stop preaching down to people ffs. If  you think that post you were responding to was “abusive” then a forum these days isn’t for you. People can handle a few choice words and they certainly don’t need to be told by YOU to pack it in and get in line!! If you don’t like reading certain stuff from a particular poster and it becomes a theme with them, use the ignore button. 

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