AceBelle Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 11 minutes ago, iainb said: Don't tell anybody, especially the Poole fans (like they'd see this on a PL topic!)... but I actually think the move to Poole has done wonders for him, had to improve his gating as it's such a dog rubbish track says a Leicester fan about tracks 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 1 minute ago, AceBelle said: pathetic reply Pathetic... but true, he was on his way to being an Adam Ellis, Danny King, Charles Wright type until DJ Woffy showed him the way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceBelle Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 Just now, iainb said: Pathetic... but true, he was on his way to being an Adam Ellis, Danny King, Charles Wright type until DJ Woffy showed him the way another pathetic answer treat with the contempt it deserves 🙃only in your blind eyes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 2 minutes ago, AceBelle said: another pathetic answer treat with the contempt it deserves 🙃only in your blind eyes There's no shame in accepting help from a 3 times World Champion and King of the Decks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim G Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 8 minutes ago, AceBelle said: not a massive rise is it ? Considering he is riding as a heat leader and not had a spell at reserve like last season any increase on his average is impressive. Brennan has improved this year. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceBelle Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 3 minutes ago, iainb said: There's no shame in accepting help from a 3 times World Champion and King of the Decks king of the pricks more like 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 (edited) 6 minutes ago, iainb said: There's no shame in accepting help from a 3 times World Champion and King of the Decks Gave him engines and mechanics, and also helped him with the mental side of the sport... Toughened him up a fair bit I would suggest... And, as for Brennan, decent progression this season.. A fair few average bashing Ht 15's yet has posted a decent figure, especially often carrying a poor team... Edited August 23 by mikebv 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceBelle Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 1 minute ago, Tim G said: Considering he is riding as a heat leader and not had a spell at reserve like last season any increase on his average is impressive. Brennan has improved this year. if you say so 🙃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim G Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 2 minutes ago, AceBelle said: if you say so 🙃 I think it's quite obvious that he has but maybe your rose tinted aces glasses mean you can't see it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceBelle Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 6 minutes ago, Tim G said: I think it's quite obvious that he has but maybe your rose tinted aces glasses mean you can't see it!! if you say so 🙃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 32 minutes ago, AceBelle said: heat leader in a poor team 😉 Which means he has tougher rides,so his progression has been very good this season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 1 hour ago, mikebv said: To be fair... In a HL position this year, not a SS/Reserve... Lots of 2 & 4’s so heat 8 & 14. He had quite a few TS thrown against him whilst with The Aces as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackInTheDHSS Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 I think it’s fair to say that some riders respond well to riding at certain tracks, and others don’t. Same goes for coaching methods and equipment. Having the means for investment is also a huge factor. There’s no magic formula, otherwise everybody would follow it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderman1 Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 1 hour ago, StarBoy said: In a stronger league also… Few more top guys but they all have had average scores at times,not many do well on uk tracks at this level without doing a few meetings and changes,don’t think level is much different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 2 hours ago, ouch said: Left Aces were on 6.02. Current 6.07. Spent a chunk at reserve for easier rides last season. Now riding as a heat leader in the leagues weakest team but the strongest league strength in a decade. that 0.05 improvement is massive in real progress terms. Will be a steal on that average next season. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim G Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 (edited) 2 hours ago, AceBelle said: if you say so 🙃 Was Tate still a guest for the Aces when he got injured like you said so? Edited August 23 by Tim G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted August 24 Report Share Posted August 24 12 hours ago, FromBendThree said: Actually, look at Brennan since he left the Aces. Tom has come on “leaps and bounds” since leaving Belle Vue improving his average by an impressive 0.05. His average last year was helped by having a 1 whole month at reserve. In contrast, poor Connor had a terrible season at Belle Vue only improving his average by insignificant 0.22. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted August 24 Report Share Posted August 24 2 hours ago, ouch said: Tom has come on “leaps and bounds” since leaving Belle Vue improving his average by an impressive 0.05. His average last year was helped by having a 1 whole month at reserve. In contrast, poor Connor had a terrible season at Belle Vue only improving his average by insignificant 0.22. You’re being deliberately misleading here using those averages which we all know don’t tell the full story because of the way averages work. Probably because just like Geoffrey, you don’t want to admit that Brennan has stepped up a level since leaving Belle Vue. As always the devil is in the detail. His average for the 2023 season at Belle Vue is near identical to his average over all meetings in 2024 for Birmingham. But take away the bonus points from sitting behind Kurtz and Bewley and the GSA’s show in 2023 he achieved 5.87, this year his GSA over all meetings is 6.50. There’s also a world of difference between riding without pressure at reserve/2,3,4 with Bewley and Kurtz doing the heavy lifting at the top end, than literally carrying the whole team (before Lindgren came in a few weeks ago) at either 1 or 5 and being the main source of points for your team. The boy has stepped it up a level this year, it’s ok to hold your hands up and accept it even if he’s done it at another club other than your beloved Belle Vue. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted August 24 Report Share Posted August 24 43 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said: You’re being deliberately misleading here using those averages which we all know don’t tell the full story because of the way averages work. Probably because just like Geoffrey, you don’t want to admit that Brennan has stepped up a level since leaving Belle Vue. As always the devil is in the detail. His average for the 2023 season at Belle Vue is near identical to his average over all meetings in 2024 for Birmingham. But take away the bonus points from sitting behind Kurtz and Bewley and the GSA’s show in 2023 he achieved 5.87, this year his GSA over all meetings is 6.50. There’s also a world of difference between riding without pressure at reserve/2,3,4 with Bewley and Kurtz doing the heavy lifting at the top end, than literally carrying the whole team (before Lindgren came in a few weeks ago) at either 1 or 5 and being the main source of points for your team. The boy has stepped it up a level this year, it’s ok to hold your hands up and accept it even if he’s done it at another club other than your beloved Belle Vue. Dan and Brady were doing the heavy lifting - in front of him. Having a rider whether team mate or opponent in front of you, has a detrimental effect on your average. Not having big hitter team mates means you move up a position in the races you are now in. Case in point, his average has dropped since Freddie joined as he is now behind him in many races. Tom “carried” the team at 5 (not 1) for just four meetings before Freddie’s arrival. The seven meetings prior to this saw him ride in his usual second string role. The devil is indeed in the detail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted August 24 Report Share Posted August 24 (edited) I’d also add that he’ll be in demand for next year so Birmingham may have a battle on their hands. Especially for the clubs that go top heavy and have heavy hitters at 1 and 5. Brennan on a 6 point average slotting in to the middle order and away from the demands of 1 and 5, would be a terrific signing. Hope Ipswich go in for him personally. Edited August 24 by Arch Stanton 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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