scoobydoo Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 1 minute ago, cowboy cookie returns? said: Doesn’t change the fact that there is an issue with the official documentation that can be challenged. It doesnt but if the meetings on tomorrow its a very short period of time to challenge it though before tapes up But then again with loophole Louis on the board anything could happen . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 Regards Concussion protocol... 07.1.1 Rider Withdrawal Where a rider is withdrawn from a meeting, due to injury all instructions given by the Medical Officer and noted on the Injured Riders Certificate must be adhered to. Where a rider suffers concussion at a meeting then a fixed period of suspension will be automatically applied to the riders SCB registration and the riders FMN will be notified and included on the Injured Riders List. The minimum period of registration/licence suspension will be:  Over 20 years of age 9 days Or more if so indicated by the MO As he wasn't injured in a scb meeting does that mean that none of the above applies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.V 72 Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 9 minutes ago, cowboy cookie returns? said: There you another problem with the regs, he has rode in Britain inside the last 12 months so if he is on an assessed average that contradicts the rules around assessed averages. like I said the more you look the more holes you find. No both 22 and 23 seasons he has not ridden enough meetings to qualify for a new average so he has been given an assessed average why 7.81 i don't know but it is an assessed average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 9 minutes ago, cowboy cookie returns? said: There you another problem with the regs, he has rode in Britain inside the last 12 months so if he is on an assessed average that contradicts the rules around assessed averages. like I said the more you look the more holes you find. It’s not whether he’s ridden here in the last two years, it’s the fact his Est MA (is) older than prev 2 years. A ringer, sorry rider could rock up at the tale end of the year, not do enough meetings to get a new average and remain on his old 2014 average for years.  I’ve covered this before but Robert’s 7.61 average last year was his 7.81 figure with the Brit reduction applied. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 15 minutes ago, 2ndbendbeerhut said: Regards Concussion protocol... 07.1.1 Rider Withdrawal Where a rider is withdrawn from a meeting, due to injury all instructions given by the Medical Officer and noted on the Injured Riders Certificate must be adhered to. Where a rider suffers concussion at a meeting then a fixed period of suspension will be automatically applied to the riders SCB registration and the riders FMN will be notified and included on the Injured Riders List. The minimum period of registration/licence suspension will be:  Over 20 years of age 9 days Or more if so indicated by the MO As he wasn't injured in a scb meeting does that mean that none of the above applies? Not seen any reports to suggest he had concussion but if Monday was off that would be a massive benefit to Ipswich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 Did you see in Poland .in the final they had to have Connor Bailey replaced Woffy in the Final and bring in Junior for Magic..and they say uk speedway rules are stupid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 Ben Cook guests for Blodorn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 8 minutes ago, foreverblue said: Not seen any reports to suggest he had concussion but if Monday was off that would be a massive benefit to Ipswich Some were saying he could miss due to having concussion.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 13 minutes ago, TTT said: Ben Cook guests for Blodorn. Wow they have got another ringer, sorry rider in!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 13 minutes ago, orion said: Did you see in Poland .in the final they had to have Connor Bailey replaced Woffy in the Final and bring in Junior for Magic..and they say uk speedway rules are stupid It's a matter of opinion of course but to me using your squad is preferable to borrowing riders from other clubs, although I appreciate that in this instance the final is likely to be very one sided. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Sidney Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Aries said:     It isn’t assessed, that’s not what that word means. It’s his official average that he achieved on track. If they want to play by those rules then his average should have been REASSESSED to an average that aligns to his current ability.  And no he can’t guest as per the regulations I agree. I think the key says as follows  *assessed MA due to one of following B New Foreign Rider Converted MA C New Rider D Re-assessed MA OG Est MA older than prev 2 seasons So Lambert will come under D or OG as I don't think he achieved a new average last season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BenMoran Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Arch Stanton said: Even if he HAS agreed to ride for Sheffield, we could still offer him a good (better) deal  Don’t worry Fricke isn’t riding for Sheffield v Wolves in the play off’s, so you can have him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Sir Sidney said: I think the key says as follows  *assessed MA due to one of following B New Foreign Rider Converted MA C New Rider D Re-assessed MA OG Est MA older than prev 2 seasons So Lambert will come under D or OG as I don't think he achieved a new average last season I wouldn't put it past Loophole Louis to be sitting with a calculator today fast tracking Lambert's new average to an actual one relevant from today as hes ridden in and now finished the qualifying league matches for Lynn for 2023 Edited September 17, 2023 by scoobydoo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy cookie returns? Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 24 minutes ago, orion said: Did you see in Poland .in the final they had to have Connor Bailey replaced Woffy in the Final and bring in Junior for Magic..and they say uk speedway rules are stupid Polish speedway is a squad sport & everyone know that. If you have injuries then they have to be covered by members of your squad. No different to any other professional team sport. While it massively weakens Wrocław a squad system is much better than what we have in the UK, where the regulations are so open to interpretation you could fly a 747 though the holes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 13 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: It's a matter of opinion of course but to me using your squad is preferable to borrowing riders from other clubs, although I appreciate that in this instance the final is likely to be very one sided. But they can't even used. RR be 26 pages long if it was UK speedway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 1 minute ago, scoobydoo said: I wouldn't put it past Loophole Louis to be sitting with a calculator today fast tracking Lambert's average to an actual one relevant from today as hes ridden in and now finished the league matches for Lynn in 2023 Does that section still exist in the regs? There was such a line stating a rider COULD be awarded a true average despite not having ridden the normally required minimum Don't know if it's still in there. I don't remember it EVER being utilised Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 29 minutes ago, TTT said: Ben Cook guests for Blodorn. Audition for 2024Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, cowboy cookie returns? said: Polish speedway is a squad sport & everyone know that. If you have injuries then they have to be covered by members of your squad. No different to any other professional team sport. While it massively weakens Wrocław a squad system is much better than what we have in the UK, where the regulations are so open to interpretation you could fly a 747 though the holes. Since when was Connor Bailey member of the Squad ? Since yesterday lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, scoobydoo said: Audition for 2024Â He is in great form so should do a good job for the Aces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 Just now, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Does that section still exist in the regs? There was such a line stating a rider COULD be awarded a true average despite not having ridden the normally required minimum Don't know if it's still in there. I don't remember it EVER being utilised Dont bother keeping up with regs now just read them from thise that post on here as they change before you've finished reading them anyway Lambert should soon get an updated average now hes ridden official league meetings for Lynn whereas last year he only rode in play offs so didnt count as Woffinden did last month Anyways wont bother me from now on as ive no one to care about at this stage unfortunately . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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