foreverblue Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said: Anyway forecast isn’t particularly great for tomorrow. Showers off and on pretty much all day although the forecast I saw there was nothing substantial and it’s improved slightly from yesterday. Time for it to improve more before tomorrow. I would hope its off if I were an Ipswich fan as Doyle needs more time to recover. So if both meetings were off this week that would be the best scenario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 20 minutes ago, Sir Sidney said: On issue 32 of the Team Declarations https://britishspeedway.co.uk/2023-premiership-declarations/ Robert Lambert has an * against his name. The key says that means an assessed average Correct, Lambert hasn't completed 3 home meetings so will remain assessed. No Play-Offs for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 55 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said: Yeah I get that, but that’s not the way I’d personally feel about it. To me, that’s not what an “assessed” average is, I’ve never thought of it that way. To me it’s an official green sheet average so no bending of the rules necessary. I’ve always thought an assessed average was an average assigned to a new rider that hasn’t yet achieved an official GSA. What one thinks and what the Regulations state can often be different. Lambert has not achieved a new CMA, so his current average is classed as assessed as per the Regs, and as shown on the Green Sheets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 47 minutes ago, cowboy cookie returns? said: Spot on according to the SCB regulations Lamberts average is an match average & not accessed so he can guest for Doyle & it’s perfectly legal No it isn't. You need to read the Regs again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 1 hour ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: It's definitely assessed - it just happened to be assessed as his previously achieved average from years back! 49 minutes ago, arnieg said: Spot on. It may seem absurd that 7.81 is an assessed average, but as a matter of fact it is. And is clearly shown as such on the Greensheets. 45 minutes ago, Sir Sidney said: On issue 32 of the Team Declarations https://britishspeedway.co.uk/2023-premiership-declarations/ Robert Lambert has an * against his name. The key says that means an assessed average 24 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: Correct, Lambert hasn't completed 3 home meetings so will remain assessed. No Play-Offs for him. 3 minutes ago, Roger Jacobs said: What one thinks and what the Regulations state can often be different. Lambert has not achieved a new CMA, so his current average is classed as assessed as per the Regs, and as shown on the Green Sheets. It isn’t assessed, that’s not what that word means. It’s his official average that he achieved on track. If they want to play by those rules then his average should have been REASSESSED to an average that aligns to his current ability. And no he can’t guest as per the regulations I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, Aries said: It isn’t assessed, that’s not what that word means. It’s his official average that he achieved on track. If they want to play by those rules then his average should have been REASSESSED to an average that aligns to his current ability. And no he can’t guest as per the regulations I agree. But reassessed is still assessed. It was reassessed - incorrectly maybe but reassessed all the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laobob Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 Can Jack Holder guest for us at Belle Vue ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 That’s a massive blow to Ipswich. Doyle is irreplaceable really particularly at Foxhall where he remains absolutely dominant. Across all fixtures this season his home average is over 11, GSA over 10 and a half. Almost a point more than Emil! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Laobob said: Can Jack Holder guest for us at Belle Vue ? No, even if he wanted to which I’m sure he doesn’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cowboy cookie returns? Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Sir Sidney said: On issue 32 of the Team Declarations https://britishspeedway.co.uk/2023-premiership-declarations/ Robert Lambert has an * against his name. The key says that means an assessed average Interesting because Patryk Wojodylo doesn’t have an * next to his name but surely he has an assessed average? An official document with error? All the more reason to push it. The documentation & regulations are not water tight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 12 hours ago, BassoRacingFan said: There is a "best interest of the sport clause" in the rule book. We can't have a play-off match decided by an injury. Jack Holder should be allowed to ride. There is a set of SCB Regulations, and there are no clauses. If Fricke hasn't already agreed to ride for Sheffield, they could offer him a good deal ... or Łaguta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, cowboy cookie returns? said: Interesting because Patryk Wojodylo doesn’t have an * next to his name but surely he has an assessed average? An official document with error? All the more reason to push it. The documentation & regulations are not water tight Wojdylo clearly has "ass", which I'm assuming is not a disparaging comment! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark.1 Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 Just seen Doyle at the Airport walking very slowly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 30 minutes ago, Aries said: That’s a massive blow to Ipswich. Doyle is irreplaceable really particularly at Foxhall where he remains absolutely dominant. Across all fixtures this season his home average is over 11, GSA over 10 and a half. Almost a point more than Emil! I think you are jumping the gun, he hasnt declared himself unfit to ride yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted September 17, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 13 minutes ago, Roger Jacobs said: There is a set of SCB Regulations, and there are no clauses. If Fricke hasn't already agreed to ride for Sheffield, they could offer him a good deal ... or Łaguta Even if he HAS agreed to ride for Sheffield, we could still offer him a good (better) deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted September 17, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, foreverblue said: I think you are jumping the gun, he hasnt declared himself unfit to ride yet. He’s as tough as they come, but he’s not superman. Foxhall Thursday a possibility maybe, but highly unlikely he’d be back on a bike tomorrow you’d think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said: Even if he HAS agreed to ride for Sheffield, we could still offer him a good (better) deal Sheffield aren't riding Monday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted September 17, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 Just now, foreverblue said: Sheffield aren't riding Monday I know, but can he guest for two different teams in the play offs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy cookie returns? Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 12 minutes ago, Roger Jacobs said: Wojdylo clearly has "ass", which I'm assuming is not a disparaging comment! Yes but it’s not an * which apparently means it’s an assessed average, Brem has an * & not ass next to his name she signed at a similar time to both Wojdylo & Lambert. So what is the official mark of an assessed average * or ass? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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