Fromafar Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, poole keith said: Obviously penalties as well as punishing should represent a significant deterrent to others,not convinced such a lenient sentence will do this,(and that was after representing himself!! If he employed professional legal help might have even got off!!) Thing is ,certain Promotions will still want to employ him,does nothing for the image of the sport. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40-38 Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 So despite all the wailing of innocence on certain Facebook fan pages he's proved to be a dishonest coke head after all. He's let both Plymouth and Leicester down badly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatface Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 22 minutes ago, hyderd said: Doesn't deserve his racing license back. Hmm. Are you so damning on all those rock stars you admire? 6 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said: There should be ZERO tolerance in these type incidents. We’re not talking carpet bowls here we’re talking a sport where riders suffer life changing accidents and sometimes death. You get caught with those substances in your system, go find another job!! We don't know the detail of this. The statement is not very revealing. What were the circumstances behind these substances being in their system? Has Worrall pleaded guilty or not? From what we do know, Boxall is a repeat offender, so its a pattern of behaviour and he didn't bother to defend it, so he deserves the book thrown at him. For Worrall, it's his first time, he defending himself and he's been punished. Young men make mistakes and deserve a second chance, hopefully he will learn from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sotonian Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 31 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said: You could argue, it's just a slap on the wrist, if he's back early June. Ridiculous isn't it? The ban should be effective from the start of next season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 (edited) Should be tested before every single meeting when he comes back. Edit - although I feel bad for Richie that he feels like he has to take it. Edited November 2, 2023 by lisa-colette 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceBelle Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, fatface said: Hmm. Are you so damning on all those rock stars you admire? We don't know the detail of this. The statement is not very revealing. What were the circumstances behind these substances being in their system? Has Worrall pleaded guilty or not? From what we do know, Boxall is a repeat offender, so its a pattern of behaviour and he didn't bother to defend it, so he deserves the book thrown at him. For Worrall, it's his first time, he defending himself and he's been punished. Young men make mistakes and deserve a second chance, hopefully he will learn from it. It's the risk of riding on Same track /heat with him totally wrong putting other riders life & injury to them the mind boggles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 WOW! Shouldn't be allowed his license back full stop. Speedway is dangerous enough without having to race against someone on the Colombian powder. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 Richie must have sniffed a few lines before the Premiership Pairs at Leicester too because he rode like Bartosz Zmarzlik that night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40-38 Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 21 minutes ago, fatface said: Hmm. Are you so damning on all those rock stars you admire? We don't know the detail of this. The statement is not very revealing. What were the circumstances behind these substances being in their system? Has Worrall pleaded guilty or not? From what we do know, Boxall is a repeat offender, so its a pattern of behaviour and he didn't bother to defend it, so he deserves the book thrown at him. For Worrall, it's his first time, he defending himself and he's been punished. Young men make mistakes and deserve a second chance, hopefully he will learn from it. If they're in any position to injure others or cause harm then yes, even rock stars should be damned. In terms of the detail, unless he's been drinking Coca Tea, then it's a vanishingly small chance that the test is wrong, and given that benzoylecgonine remains in the system for a very short amount of time it's unlikely that whatever he took wasn't within around 24 hours of him taking the test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJC Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 Quote 20 minutes ago, fatface said: Hmm. Are you so damning on all those rock stars you admire? We don't know the detail of this. The statement is not very revealing. What were the circumstances behind these substances being in their system? Has Worrall pleaded guilty or not? From what we do know, Boxall is a repeat offender, so its a pattern of behaviour and he didn't bother to defend it, so he deserves the book thrown at him. For Worrall, it's his first time, he defending himself and he's been punished. Young men make mistakes and deserve a second chance, hopefully he will learn from it. I'd hazard a guess there are only a few ways cocaine can get into your system and very few of those are inadvertently. He isn't really a 'young man', he's in his 30's and has been a 'professional sportsman' for almost 2 decades- it isn't a silly mistake - he should know better! and you can't seriously compare standing on a stage miming to jumping on a 60mph bike with no breaks with 13 other blokes? Give your head a wobble. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 48 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Thing is ,certain Promotions will still want to employ him,does nothing for the image of the sport. Just as well it probably won't get reported anywhere else then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer1969 Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 28 minutes ago, fatface said: Hmm. Are you so damning on all those rock stars you admire? We don't know the detail of this. The statement is not very revealing. What were the circumstances behind these substances being in their system? Has Worrall pleaded guilty or not? From what we do know, Boxall is a repeat offender, so its a pattern of behaviour and he didn't bother to defend it, so he deserves the book thrown at him. For Worrall, it's his first time, he defending himself and he's been punished. Young men make mistakes and deserve a second chance, hopefully he will learn from it. First time? First time he got caught do you mean, speedway is dangerous if you do drugs don't get on a speedway bike and put others at risk of serious injury. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 Tbh, is anybody actually surprised at the statement and the punishments? Boxhall has previous and in the eyes of the BSPA, just another rider. Worrall on the other hand is one of the better riders and a heat leader at most clubs, do we think the the lenient punishment has anything to do with losing a 'top' rider? Morris must be feeling very narked and hard done by with these punishments, tho his ban should have been a yardstick for Boxhall and Worrall. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtf Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 It's frustrating where Morris's punishment for not taking a test was, I felt correct and serves as a deterrent for others. Worrall's punishment for taking a recreational drug known to impair your judgement is sufficiently pathetic to say to anyone else, " don't worry about it, if you get caught, you'll miss a few months" It's not like he held his hands up, admitted it, and showed any remorse. Initially at least. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 Shocking outcome and punishment. should of got 2 year ban as of when he was found guilty. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 1 hour ago, fatface said: Hmm. Are you so damning on all those rock stars you admire? We don't know the detail of this. The statement is not very revealing. What were the circumstances behind these substances being in their system? Has Worrall pleaded guilty or not? From what we do know, Boxall is a repeat offender, so its a pattern of behaviour and he didn't bother to defend it, so he deserves the book thrown at him. For Worrall, it's his first time, he defending himself and he's been punished. Young men make mistakes and deserve a second chance, hopefully he will learn from it. How can you defend him.They are meant to be Professional sportsmen ,they know the rules. It is noticeably in every case of drugs in every sport they plead innocent, but very rarely that is the case when results are known.Excuses don’t wash. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 1 hour ago, fatface said: Hmm. Are you so damning on all those rock stars you admire? We don't know the detail of this. The statement is not very revealing. What were the circumstances behind these substances being in their system? Has Worrall pleaded guilty or not? From what we do know, Boxall is a repeat offender, so its a pattern of behaviour and he didn't bother to defend it, so he deserves the book thrown at him. For Worrall, it's his first time, he defending himself and he's been punished. Young men make mistakes and deserve a second chance, hopefully he will learn from it. Rockstar taking cocaine at a concert is not putting his band mates lives at risk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 8 minutes ago, wtf said: It's frustrating where Morris's punishment for not taking a test was, I felt correct and serves as a deterrent for others. Worrall's punishment for taking a recreational drug known to impair your judgement is sufficiently pathetic to say to anyone else, " don't worry about it, if you get caught, you'll miss a few months" It's not like he held his hands up, admitted it, and showed any remorse. Initially at least. Absolutely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 Comparison with rock stars is nonsense. Worrall and Boxall were taking substances deemed to be performance enhancing. I can’t think of any other sport where someone would not get a ban for doing anything, drugs or otherwise, that was deemed to give an unfair advantage over the other competitors. In essence it’s no different to going to the line with an oversized engine.Its just another way of gaining advantage over riders who play by the rules, and ultimately to cheat the spectators. In addition they both knew full well they were breaking the rules. After Morris, Worrall and Boxall one would hope the message would get through to any other riders minded to act similarly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 1 hour ago, AceBelle said: so Morris gets 2xyear ban no test taken? worrall 9mth basically? being guilty of cocaine?? Doesn't add up to me ? It's always the case for not taking a test as Morris could of taken anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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