PotteringAround Posted September 13, 2023 Report Share Posted September 13, 2023 On 9/12/2023 at 1:47 PM, hammer1969 said: Out of interest who actually carries out the test, is it the medical people in attendance or the referee or an independent person employed solely to do the test. Also how do they choose who to test, anyone know? An employee of this company https://racoo.co.uk/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotteringAround Posted September 13, 2023 Report Share Posted September 13, 2023 On 9/12/2023 at 1:23 PM, FromBendThree said: From the solicitors website: Evidence for both parties was put forward and the SCB failed to call the person who carried out the drug test. This denied us the opportunity to cross-examine her on the procedures followed that day.‘ i find it strange that SCB did not call the tester as a witness. Why would that happen? That was Ben Barker's case. Nothing to do with Boxall or Worrall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FromBendThree Posted September 13, 2023 Report Share Posted September 13, 2023 57 minutes ago, PotteringAround said: That was Ben Barker's case. Nothing to do with Boxall or Worrall. My comment was made earlier in thread and was a reply to a comment which was about Ben Barker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted September 13, 2023 Report Share Posted September 13, 2023 On 9/12/2023 at 9:50 AM, noaksey said: They don't announce what the substances are, see Ben Barker SCB statements That is an interesting one - I wonder why not? Paul Pogba in football has failed a recent drugs test and straight away it’s been reported what he’s taken and what it the effects can be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazS Posted September 14, 2023 Report Share Posted September 14, 2023 8 hours ago, Najjer said: That is an interesting one - I wonder why not? Paul Pogba in football has failed a recent drugs test and straight away it’s been reported what he’s taken and what it the effects can be. what were the effects of what he had taken, ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.D Posted September 14, 2023 Report Share Posted September 14, 2023 4 hours ago, DazS said: what were the effects of what he had taken, ? Performance enhancing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazS Posted September 14, 2023 Report Share Posted September 14, 2023 what Viagra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidder1 Posted September 14, 2023 Report Share Posted September 14, 2023 7 minutes ago, M.D said: Performance enhancing. A clear lack of evidence there though!! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petecc Posted September 14, 2023 Report Share Posted September 14, 2023 4 hours ago, DazS said: what were the effects of what he had taken, ? Does it matter what was taken or how it was taken. The rules are in place to protect the individual and or those around them , other riders or spectators. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazS Posted September 14, 2023 Report Share Posted September 14, 2023 they are not protecting anyone. they want you to believe they are.speedway is a dangerous sport, the lads do it because they want to and you watch it because you want to. i am still looking for a drug related accident in speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortythirtyeight Posted September 14, 2023 Report Share Posted September 14, 2023 8 minutes ago, DazS said: they are not protecting anyone. they want you to believe they are.speedway is a dangerous sport, the lads do it because they want to and you watch it because you want to. i am still looking for a drug related accident in speedway. Whilst that is rather a strange , and worrying ,thing to wait for, isn’t that why riders get tested ?…..to prevent such a thing from happening . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazS Posted September 14, 2023 Report Share Posted September 14, 2023 you will never stop accidents from happening in speedway. even if you test every rider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petecc Posted September 14, 2023 Report Share Posted September 14, 2023 2 hours ago, DazS said: you will never stop accidents from happening in speedway. even if you test every rider. You right, accidents do happen, however has a rider ever been tested after causing one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazS Posted September 14, 2023 Report Share Posted September 14, 2023 very good question, they would do it in a car accident, finding a trace of anything would not prove they are under the influence of that substance, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noaksey Posted September 14, 2023 Report Share Posted September 14, 2023 1 hour ago, DazS said: very good question, they would do it in a car accident, finding a trace of anything would not prove they are under the influence of that substance, Where would you draw the line? Plus you'd require the Independent testers to stay for the duration of each meeting just in case which clearly they'd want paying for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazS Posted September 14, 2023 Report Share Posted September 14, 2023 my stance is let the riders decide, they know more than any drug tester or fan who they are racing against, who they trust and who they dont. authority are not there to keep people safe,they just like controlling people under the guise of safety. riders probably more worried about what is in another riders engine than if they are on drugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted September 14, 2023 Report Share Posted September 14, 2023 15 hours ago, DazS said: what were the effects of what he had taken, ? Higher levels of testosterone - resulting in greater body endurance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted September 14, 2023 Report Share Posted September 14, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, DazS said: my stance is let the riders decide, they know more than any drug tester or fan who they are racing against, who they trust and who they dont. authority are not there to keep people safe,they just like controlling people under the guise of safety. riders probably more worried about what is in another riders engine than if they are on drugs. Really, are you for real? Edited September 14, 2023 by Bald Bloke 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazS Posted September 15, 2023 Report Share Posted September 15, 2023 7 hours ago, Bald Bloke said: Really, are you for real? i can not understand why people on here are more upset there is not enough drug testing, than the riders seem to be. think you all have virtue signalling disease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted September 15, 2023 Report Share Posted September 15, 2023 2 hours ago, DazS said: i can not understand why people on here are more upset there is not enough drug testing, than the riders seem to be. think you all have virtue signalling disease. I have no idea what you are even talking about in this comment, but do you seriously think the riders should judge themselves fit to ride? What a ridiculous comment 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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