Lord Skid Posted November 10, 2023 Report Share Posted November 10, 2023 11 hours ago, old bob at herne bay said: Whilst in no way condoning the actions of Richie Worrall, the behaviour of Mr Vatcher doesn';t surprise me at all. A guy with no particular skills arrived on the speedway scene at Arena Essex (or Lakeside whatever it was called at the time) and contributed little to the team as assistant TM. Not seen what he adds to the British Speedway scene tbh. He's been around Poole for years, maybe in the Jobs for the boys Club, going on alot lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Skid Posted November 10, 2023 Report Share Posted November 10, 2023 57 minutes ago, DSC67 said: I thought that money from fines went to the Ben Fund Yes it always has. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted November 10, 2023 Report Share Posted November 10, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, old bob at herne bay said: Whilst in no way condoning the actions of Richie Worrall, the behaviour of Mr Vatcher doesn';t surprise me at all. A guy with no particular skills arrived on the speedway scene at Arena Essex (or Lakeside whatever it was called at the time) and contributed little to the team as assistant TM. Not seen what he adds to the British Speedway scene tbh. I would agree with that, he comes across as a guy with very limited capabilities & he should be nowhere near the job he has. The stuff he puts out for for public consumption makes the SCB appear very amateurish . Edited November 10, 2023 by Dave Jones 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted November 10, 2023 Report Share Posted November 10, 2023 5 hours ago, SpeedwayTShirts said: But didn’t Richie have his own test done in far more detail the following day at his own expense which showed him to be completely clean over 16 catergories? It doesn’t matter what he had done the following day though.He failed on the night in Question.End off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigred Posted November 10, 2023 Report Share Posted November 10, 2023 7 hours ago, Diamonds85 said: In regards to the £3,000 fine that Richie had to pay (rightly or wrongly I don't care to debate) Is this money going into the running of the sport in the country, the development of youth and facilities... OR is this money being spent on the promoters p!ss up in Tenerife... This sport is ran by complete and utter tw@ts, so I think I know the answer... But I'm open to be proven wrong... Straight into vatchers personal account !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted November 10, 2023 Report Share Posted November 10, 2023 37 minutes ago, Fromafar said: It doesn’t matter what he had done the following day though.He failed on the night in Question.End off. He may as well take a drugs test tomorrow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer1969 Posted November 10, 2023 Report Share Posted November 10, 2023 Genuine question, is there a scale/table of fines ie £1500 for failing a drug test, £3000 for bringing the sport into disrepute etc or is a figure just plucked out of the air and also what happens if the fine isn't paid, does it just increase (like parking tickets) or do bailiffs get sent in or is it just written off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds85 Posted November 10, 2023 Report Share Posted November 10, 2023 4 hours ago, DSC67 said: I thought that money from fines went to the Ben Fund Well if that is the case then brilliant Let's hope there's no corruption... HAHAHA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted November 10, 2023 Report Share Posted November 10, 2023 29 minutes ago, hammer1969 said: Genuine question, is there a scale/table of fines ie £1500 for failing a drug test, £3000 for bringing the sport into disrepute etc or is a figure just plucked out of the air and also what happens if the fine isn't paid, does it just increase (like parking tickets) or do bailiffs get sent in or is it just written off? It’s speedway,plucked out of the air would be my guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatface Posted November 10, 2023 Report Share Posted November 10, 2023 42 minutes ago, hammer1969 said: Genuine question, is there a scale/table of fines ie £1500 for failing a drug test, £3000 for bringing the sport into disrepute etc or is a figure just plucked out of the air and also what happens if the fine isn't paid, does it just increase (like parking tickets) or do bailiffs get sent in or is it just written off? It's one thing posting something dodgy on social media, it's another when you are under suspension for a drugs offence. I've urged a bit of compassion in this issue as young men frequently do silly things and shouldn't be burned at the stake for a first time offence. But posting about it and undermining the whole process afterwards is, frankly, stupid. I won't go into the details, but a long time ago, I had a quite traumatic experience of someone close being spiked. It does happen. However, if you are a professional sportsperson, then part of that professionalism is being extra vigilant on what enters your body. I have been on senior management teams alongside elite athletes and its is absolutely drummed into them again and again to be vigilant and examine every little ingredient of every medication. Athletes don't consume anything unless they are sure of its safety to the point of paranoia, eg. only drinking sealed bottled water when they are personally breaking the seal. Speedway being speedway, its unlikely such professionalism occurs. The problem for the authorities is that they cannot go on the "how" of drugs cases, they can only go on the "what". That means sportspeople have to be held accountable for what is in their bodies, end of. If they are let off for being "spiked" or "never knowingly ingesting", then that sets a precedent for all future drugs cases. He may have taken drugs, he may have been clumsy. Either way he needs to own it and learn a harsh lesson. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noaksey Posted November 10, 2023 Report Share Posted November 10, 2023 1 hour ago, hammer1969 said: Genuine question, is there a scale/table of fines ie £1500 for failing a drug test, £3000 for bringing the sport into disrepute etc or is a figure just plucked out of the air and also what happens if the fine isn't paid, does it just increase (like parking tickets) or do bailiffs get sent in or is it just written off? He'll remain suspended until the fine is paid. Somebody (I can't remember who, a Reading rider maybe) from years ago never paid his and never rode again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted November 10, 2023 Report Share Posted November 10, 2023 7 minutes ago, noaksey said: He'll remain suspended until the fine is paid. Somebody (I can't remember who, a Reading rider maybe) from years ago never paid his and never rode again Danny Bird? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noaksey Posted November 10, 2023 Report Share Posted November 10, 2023 1 minute ago, foreverblue said: Danny Bird? That's him. Still suspended I believe... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted November 10, 2023 Report Share Posted November 10, 2023 16 hours ago, Marksman said: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted November 10, 2023 Report Share Posted November 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said: Blimey, he has aged alot, doesn't look like all this is doing him much good! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted November 10, 2023 Report Share Posted November 10, 2023 Richie isn't using a shovel.. More like a JCB... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash Posted November 10, 2023 Report Share Posted November 10, 2023 If Richie says he is done with the sport can't see him paying the fines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WembleyLion Posted November 10, 2023 Report Share Posted November 10, 2023 (edited) 16 hours ago, TINYS said: Don't see what his brother not getting a top league spot has got to do with it. Agreed. Maybe no club can accommodate Steve’s holiday requirements? Edited November 10, 2023 by WembleyLion 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted November 10, 2023 Report Share Posted November 10, 2023 1 hour ago, noaksey said: That's him. Still suspended I believe... Still saving up!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted November 10, 2023 Report Share Posted November 10, 2023 47 minutes ago, Bash said: If Richie says he is done with the sport can't see him paying the fines Who really cares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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