GeneralMelchett Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 10 hours ago, DJC said: I'd hazard a guess there are only a few ways cocaine can get into your system and very few of those are inadvertently. He isn't really a 'young man', he's in his 30's and has been a 'professional sportsman' for almost 2 decades- it isn't a silly mistake - he should know better! and you can't seriously compare standing on a stage miming to jumping on a 60mph bike with no breaks with 13 other blokes? Give your head a wobble. He might have been sniffing or licking fivers - apparently huge numbers UK bank notes have traces of coke on them. However for his stupidity alone he deserves a larger ban and fine, and in his 30s he should know better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 People are really quick to throw stones these days. Unless you were there then you don't know what mitigations were presented. I've had friends have their drinks spiked, it does happen. All we can do is respect the verdict and move on. I have never used any of these substances but do know that cocaine usage in the UK is increasing all the time as we cannot police our borders due to under resourcing. Cannabis use is rocketing and many of these people will drive whilst under the effects but if caught it's just a slapped wrist but they endanger many lives. I remember before the Latvian GP Darcy Ward was out of his face on booze the night before but turned up to ride, think he may have got a ban, as well as other reported misdemeanours but he's well liked these days. The Morans similar. Lessons to be learnt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted November 3, 2023 Report Share Posted November 3, 2023 8 hours ago, Fromafar said: It was a positive Test what more do you need.If it was painkillers he should have known not too take them,no excuse.There’s a list as long as your arm I’m medications that include banned substances. I was merely pointing out many painkillers can give out false positives on tests and come up with cocaine,even something like ibuprofen can.No need to be a tad rude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted November 3, 2023 Report Share Posted November 3, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, iainb said: So not his fault then! Does he take the blame for anything to that happens! 7 hours ago, SPEEDY69 said: People are really quick to throw stones these days. Unless you were there then you don't know what mitigations were presented. I've had friends have their drinks spiked, it does happen. All we can do is respect the verdict and move on. I have never used any of these substances but do know that cocaine usage in the UK is increasing all the time as we cannot police our borders due to under resourcing. Cannabis use is rocketing and many of these people will drive whilst under the effects but if caught it's just a slapped wrist but they endanger many lives. I remember before the Latvian GP Darcy Ward was out of his face on booze the night before but turned up to ride, think he may have got a ban, as well as other reported misdemeanours but he's well liked these days. The Morans similar. Lessons to be learnt. Darcy got a year ban if I remember correctly. 1 hour ago, tellboy said: I was merely pointing out many painkillers can give out false positives on tests and come up with cocaine,even something like ibuprofen can.No need to be a tad rude. I would assume the level of it in someone's system would rule that in or out. Edit - just been reading the defending comments of Richie on his FB post. Apparently the second test is completely legit and first test is a stitch up lol. Where do they find these people? Edited November 3, 2023 by lisa-colette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40-38 Posted November 3, 2023 Report Share Posted November 3, 2023 1 hour ago, tellboy said: I was merely pointing out many painkillers can give out false positives on tests and come up with cocaine,even something like ibuprofen can.No need to be a tad rude. Not cocaine, ibuprofen can look like cannabis in some circumstances, but there isn’t much that mimics cocaine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BenMoran Posted November 3, 2023 Report Share Posted November 3, 2023 Shame his ban wasn’t until 1st September when transfer window is shut. A ban until June is a Joke and the way he’s mocked it including the governing body and the testing g service is surely close to brining the sport into disrepute which should be another ban. Hopefully promoters stay well clear as can’t imagine trust after lying though his teeth is high on his agenda 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted November 3, 2023 Report Share Posted November 3, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, 4BM said: Shame his ban wasn’t until 1st September when transfer window is shut. A ban until June is a Joke and the way he’s mocked it including the governing body and the testing g service is surely close to brining the sport into disrepute which should be another ban. Hopefully promoters stay well clear as can’t imagine trust after lying though his teeth is high on his agenda That must be a spoof account surely? Cannot believe anyone would put out such a response... If it was him, then those in charge should treble the extraordinarily lenient ban... Edited November 3, 2023 by mikebv 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted November 3, 2023 Report Share Posted November 3, 2023 2 hours ago, tellboy said: I was merely pointing out many painkillers can give out false positives on tests and come up with cocaine,even something like ibuprofen can.No need to be a tad rude. I was just pointing out facts. Painkillers that contain cocaine will certainly be on the list(if that is the case).Reading Worrells statement say it all .IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted November 3, 2023 Report Share Posted November 3, 2023 2 hours ago, lisa-colette said: So not his fault then! Does he take the blame for anything to that happens! Darcy got a year ban if I remember correctly. I would assume the level of it in someone's system would rule that in or out. Edit - just been reading the defending comments of Richie on his FB post. Apparently the second test is completely legit and first test is a stitch up lol. Where do they find these people? Ward got 10 months. Was suspended from riding after the fail, at the end of August. Back riding at the end of June. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted November 3, 2023 Report Share Posted November 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Fromafar said: I was just pointing out facts. Painkillers that contain cocaine will certainly be on the list(if that is the case).Reading Worrells statement say it all .IMO. I'm not saying these contain cocaine,many medications give can give false positives for cocaine apparently.Including every day common painkillers people take for a headache. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted November 3, 2023 Report Share Posted November 3, 2023 34 minutes ago, tellboy said: I'm not saying these contain cocaine,many medications give can give false positives for cocaine apparently.Including every day common painkillers people take for a headache. So you reckon Richie was unlucky and had false positive then.Sports people are given a list of medication that could have banned substances.Richie maintains it was a drink that was spiked so we can rule out painkillers.Got of lightly IMO.Had no intentions of being rude in my Posts if that’s what you think though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted November 3, 2023 Report Share Posted November 3, 2023 Must of been back on the Charlie when he posted that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted November 3, 2023 Report Share Posted November 3, 2023 It seems strange to me that 2 riders from different clubs have tested positive for the same 2 substances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TINYS Posted November 3, 2023 Report Share Posted November 3, 2023 1 hour ago, phillipsr said: Must of been back on the Charlie when he posted that Absolutely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tocha Posted November 3, 2023 Report Share Posted November 3, 2023 9 minutes ago, IronScorpion said: It seems strange to me that 2 riders from different clubs have tested positive for the same 2 substances. I thought it an odd coincidence as well. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted November 3, 2023 Report Share Posted November 3, 2023 1 minute ago, tocha said: I thought it an odd coincidence as well. Bogof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted November 3, 2023 Report Share Posted November 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Fromafar said: So you reckon Richie was unlucky and had false positive then.Sports people are given a list of medication that could have banned substances.Richie maintains it was a drink that was spiked so we can rule out painkillers.Got of lightly IMO.Had no intentions of being rude in my Posts if that’s what you think though. I'm sorry but even if that was true you would pull out of riding whilst it passed out your system surely? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoundTheBoards Posted November 3, 2023 Report Share Posted November 3, 2023 32 minutes ago, IronScorpion said: It seems strange to me that 2 riders from different clubs have tested positive for the same 2 substances. Not really. Cocaine is the most widely used recreational drug after cannabis. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted November 3, 2023 Report Share Posted November 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Fromafar said: So you reckon Richie was unlucky and had false positive then.Sports people are given a list of medication that could have banned substances.Richie maintains it was a drink that was spiked so we can rule out painkillers.Got of lightly IMO.Had no intentions of being rude in my Posts if that’s what you think though. I didn't say Worrall was unlucky and had a false positive.I was saying what could come about from drugs and alcohol tests.We have them randomly at work as I drive,we have to list our medication we take.I did say if it was a definite he should be banned for longer in my original post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted November 3, 2023 Report Share Posted November 3, 2023 Jesus christ. He got a very lenient punishment and is still complaining. What a kn0b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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