DazS Posted September 9, 2023 Report Share Posted September 9, 2023 the word drugs from paracetamol to heroin, , all riders get a drug when they are riding its called adrenalin, people need to try it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted September 9, 2023 Report Share Posted September 9, 2023 49 minutes ago, iainb said: Has anybody read what Edinburgh Director Mike Hunter has said on Facebook? Drugs - Just Say Yes! https://twitter.com/SocialSpeedway/status/1700416387661832240?s=20 Unbelievable! I've just read Mike Hunters comments and fully support them. I consider he's clearly defined the difference between medication and enhancing substances. Excellent common sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted September 9, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2023 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Lefty said: I've just read Mike Hunters comments and fully support them. I consider he's clearly defined the difference between medication and enhancing substances. Excellent common sense. It's a view I suppose... he's seriously suggesting that driving a car is comparable to racing professional competitive motor sport. I can't believe a director of a Speedway club is advocating riders pumping themselves full of steroids/HGH in order to be competitive. Speedway is struggling enough to be taken seriously this would be the final straw for many I would suspect, the media would drop it in a heartbeat for starters. He says Speedway falls into line with sports like athletics or weightlifting, not quite true, it falls into line with almost all other professional sports. He's also suggesting that riders are required to walk in a straight line or something before a meeting to test whether they're "fit" to ride. I think he's had one dram too many before writing that post! Edited September 9, 2023 by iainb 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatface Posted September 9, 2023 Report Share Posted September 9, 2023 21 minutes ago, iainb said: It's a view I suppose... he's seriously suggesting that driving a car is comparable to racing professional competitive motor sport. I can't believe a director of a Speedway club is advocating riders pumping themselves full of steroids/HGH in order to be competitive. Speedway is struggling enough to be taken seriously this would be the final straw for many I would suspect, the media would drop it in a heartbeat for starters. He says Speedway falls into line with sports like athletics or weightlifting, not quite true, it falls into line with almost all other professional sports. He's also suggesting that riders are required to walk in a straight line or something before a meeting to test whether they're "fit" to ride. I think he's had one dram too many before writing that post! I agree. You need strength to ride a speedway bike. So, the stronger and fitter you are, the easier it is to ride a bike. So if folk are gaining strength through performance enhancing drugs, that's giving them an unfair advantage. That's why Mike's post is wrong. Furthermore, even in sports where being athletic is not the be all and end all, overall fitness and strength is still a factor. The better physical condition you are in, the sharper you will be mentally and less likely to fatigue. It's no coincidence that when Tiger Woods* was dominating golf, he was also the fittest bloke on the course or Ronnie O'Sullivan's passion for running has kept him at the peak of the game for longer than we might have predicted. *that said, I wouldn't be amazed if Tiger Woods had dabbled in a few PEDs back in the day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazS Posted September 9, 2023 Report Share Posted September 9, 2023 i dont see Geoff capes being a good speedway rider 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatface Posted September 9, 2023 Report Share Posted September 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, DazS said: i dont see Geoff capes being a good speedway rider True. But I wouldn't fancy Lance Armstrong's chances in the world's strongest man either... There's a nice wee anecdote around 1970s British Athletics which saw Geoff Capes and Brendan Foster (5k/10k runner) having a race over 200m. You'd probably favour the runner, but Capes won because he had the explosive power. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazS Posted September 9, 2023 Report Share Posted September 9, 2023 and what about Kevin Kegan riding a bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatface Posted September 9, 2023 Report Share Posted September 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, DazS said: and what about Kevin Kegan riding a bike. I tell you now I would love to see that again. Love it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazS Posted September 9, 2023 Report Share Posted September 9, 2023 loved watching sports super stars 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted September 9, 2023 Report Share Posted September 9, 2023 9 hours ago, DazS said: loved watching sports super stars Am I right that Anders Michanek appeared in one series? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted September 9, 2023 Report Share Posted September 9, 2023 9 hours ago, fatface said: I agree. You need strength to ride a speedway bike. So, the stronger and fitter you are, the easier it is to ride a bike. So if folk are gaining strength through performance enhancing drugs, that's giving them an unfair advantage. That's why Mike's post is wrong. Furthermore, even in sports where being athletic is not the be all and end all, overall fitness and strength is still a factor. The better physical condition you are in, the sharper you will be mentally and less likely to fatigue. It's no coincidence that when Tiger Woods* was dominating golf, he was also the fittest bloke on the course or Ronnie O'Sullivan's passion for running has kept him at the peak of the game for longer than we might have predicted. *that said, I wouldn't be amazed if Tiger Woods had dabbled in a few PEDs back in the day I recall my arms ached like nobody's when I once had a go! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazS Posted September 9, 2023 Report Share Posted September 9, 2023 not sure unless it was a Swedish version, i know Pete Collins did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazS Posted September 9, 2023 Report Share Posted September 9, 2023 they did have a international one too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog Posted September 10, 2023 Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 On 9/6/2023 at 5:08 PM, iainb said: So that's using "recreational" drugs as a performance enhancer, like taking a bravery pill... I suppose if you're daft enough to cheat anything is possible Not sure the younger generation see it as cheating tho, more a way of life nowadays sadly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatface Posted September 11, 2023 Report Share Posted September 11, 2023 On 9/9/2023 at 8:51 PM, DazS said: not sure unless it was a Swedish version, i know Pete Collins did. I also think Bruce Penhall was on it. I think they did quite well too. Again, shows that fitness is a real factor in speedway. Really liked Superstars and what a theme tune! But like a lot of older shows, when you watch them back on YouTube, they are never as good as you remember them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normski Posted September 11, 2023 Report Share Posted September 11, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted September 11, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2023 6 minutes ago, Normski said: That's going to come as an unpleasant shock to some! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazS Posted September 11, 2023 Report Share Posted September 11, 2023 thats very vague, why cant they name the drug or drugs, is it stuff that could be in a cough mixture. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted September 11, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2023 Just now, DazS said: thats very vague, why cant they name the drug or drugs, is it stuff that could be in a cough mixture. I don't think it matters does it? It's up to the rider to use cough mixture that doesn't contain substances on the banned list I think 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazS Posted September 11, 2023 Report Share Posted September 11, 2023 17 minutes ago, iainb said: I don't think it matters does it? It's up to the rider to use cough mixture that doesn't contain substances on the banned list I think i wonder if its like a bouncer at night club, sorry mate cant let you in you have trainers on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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