SilentLurker Posted August 28, 2023 Report Share Posted August 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, tyke said: Not sure he could be anything else, the reality though I'd suggest not Just look at how positive it was with Swindon with the one season out talk. They are now in the abyss for good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk127 Posted August 28, 2023 Report Share Posted August 28, 2023 13 minutes ago, tyke said: Not sure he could be anything else, the reality though I'd suggest not It really is a blow to u k speedway and one can only hope that Wolves have something in the pipeline but can the optimism about 2025 be fulfilled and if the club has something lined up that can see them come to the tapes in 2025 then why not reveal. I feel for the Wolves fans and let’s hope that they are not lost to British speedway. U k speedway and one of stalwarts of the top tier is not going to be the same. Fingers crossed that you come back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R87 Posted August 28, 2023 Report Share Posted August 28, 2023 40 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: Officially no Wolves next season No loss 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted August 28, 2023 Report Share Posted August 28, 2023 12 minutes ago, TTT said: I give it 3 years top whack before the sport disappears entirely in this country unfortunately. Team speedway I agree.. Death by a 1000 self inflicted cuts unfortunately, with all promoters as culpable as each other for allowing such nonsense that we constantly see pervade, which has driven many thousands away... Thousands that, if they were still regularly in attendance, would make a world of difference to landlords and their rent money level.. And, maybe, saved a few more tracks..? You would hope though, that given the raw product itself clearly has a marketable value given how good it can be, that the sport does carry on akin to how the USA and Aussie run their version of the sport.. Individuals in the main, with some contrived teams put together on an adhoc basis. (Who said just like we have now?)... Given riders need so many meetings, (and the sport is pretty much solely built to allow them to do that), it will he interesting to see what gets conjured up. Given Wolves have pulled out to allow planning to take place, you can only presume that some kind of plan is already being mulled over.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted August 28, 2023 Report Share Posted August 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, R87 said: No loss Any club disappearing is a loss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R87 Posted August 28, 2023 Report Share Posted August 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, tellboy said: Any club disappearing is a loss Not that one though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWellBehavedWorrall Posted August 28, 2023 Report Share Posted August 28, 2023 23 minutes ago, DJC said: Masters moaning about movement but it was Worrall moving? Brilliant He’s correct though, isn’t he? Regardless of whether it’s a Wolves or a Sheffield rider, the rules state that riders must remain stationary until the tapes rise; that didn’t happen. Between this and the decision to allow Charles Wright to remain in the final of last night’s CLRC, I’m noting a blatant unwillingness from referee’s to apply the rules which are set in black and white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted August 28, 2023 Report Share Posted August 28, 2023 Just now, R87 said: Not that one though It's not to my liking,but i don't want to see any club disappear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk127 Posted August 28, 2023 Report Share Posted August 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, R87 said: No loss It is if you are trying to run some sort of league. No Wolves and I doubt whether the league can continue in its current format. Why should any team jeopardise it’s very existence by moving up to join and expensive operating model racing on nights that do not suit the the local business model. In my view it is a shame that another team bites the dust and league racing at the top level is questionable and I wonder how many fans of the sport would turn out for open meetings if you had no league racing. Be careful what you wish for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelinho Posted August 28, 2023 Report Share Posted August 28, 2023 Yeah, individual events are nice, but league racing is the glue. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted August 28, 2023 Report Share Posted August 28, 2023 13 minutes ago, R87 said: No loss Of course it is, Every club that closes is one step closer to the league closing as a whole. Clubs like BV are secure but they need other clubs to race against. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk127 Posted August 28, 2023 Report Share Posted August 28, 2023 9 minutes ago, tellboy said: Any club disappearing is a loss The poster should show to all their true colours but obviously they neither have the balls or the sense to see where the sport is in this country. Still what sport needs supporters like this poster. Suggest they go watch tiddlywinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted August 28, 2023 Report Share Posted August 28, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Hawk127 said: It is if you are trying to run some sort of league. No Wolves and I doubt whether the league can continue in its current format. Why should any team jeopardise it’s very existence by moving up to join and expensive operating model racing on nights that do not suit the the local business model. In my view it is a shame that another team bites the dust and league racing at the top level is questionable and I wonder how many fans of the sport would turn out for open meetings if you had no league racing. Be careful what you wish for. You would need to promote it with big prize money... Bottom line though will be that plenty of riders will need to earn, so they will be available. The current team sport model has driven thousands away due its completely contrived operating plan, which engenders zero emotional attachment, so, what really is the point of doing the same old, same old, every year..? All the tracks closing over the past 10 years shows it clearly doesn't work... Edited August 28, 2023 by mikebv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted August 28, 2023 Report Share Posted August 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, Noelinho said: Yeah, individual events are nice, but league racing is the glue. Not even Blu Tac sadly.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted August 28, 2023 Report Share Posted August 28, 2023 42 minutes ago, DJC said: Masters moaning Get away! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted August 28, 2023 Report Share Posted August 28, 2023 Grim but inevitable news. You cannot run the sport in this country as it has been without casualties. I’ll miss the atmosphere of the friendly rivalry between The Aces and wolves and there will always be a warm welcome at the NSS should you fancy the sixty odd mile trip up to see your old favourites. Maybe an ex wolves v Aces challenge at the start of next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truthsayer Posted August 28, 2023 Report Share Posted August 28, 2023 22 minutes ago, Noelinho said: Yeah, individual events are nice, but league racing is the glue. It's not though, is it? It's a clusterf--k and clearly not working. Not enough venues, not enough riders, not enough fans, not a sustainable business model. The only glue is the stuff being sniffed by anyone who thinks professional speedway will still exist in the UK in five years time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelinho Posted August 28, 2023 Report Share Posted August 28, 2023 1 minute ago, truthsayer said: It's not though, is it? It's a clusterf--k and clearly not working. Not enough venues, not enough riders, not enough fans, not a sustainable business model. The only glue is the stuff being sniffed by anyone who thinks professional speedway will still exist in the UK in five years time. OK, I’ll put it another way. Get rid of the leagues tomorrow and the sport dies tomorrow - not in five years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Clemens Posted August 28, 2023 Report Share Posted August 28, 2023 Especially with the news about monmore closing, sorry this meeting is a bit of bore fest. Good news for the wolves fans of course but not for the casual observer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truthsayer Posted August 28, 2023 Report Share Posted August 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Mr. Clemens said: Especially with the news about monmore closing, sorry this meeting is a bit of bore fest. It's been so boring not a single rider has been coming on strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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