StarBoy Posted August 23, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 According to BV's preview they have Tarasenko down as a guest for Jorgensen as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 16 hours ago, tocha said: It could just be that the regs.,yet again, are written badly. This is what it states:- A Premiership Assessed League rider will establish an MA after completing 3 home and 3 away qualifying fixtures. A Championship Assessed League rider will establish an MA after completing 8 qualifying fixtures. The most recently established MA will be used. If a rider has an established MA in both the Premiership and Championship Leagues, established in the same season, that leagues MA will apply to that league. NDL established MA’s are issued when a rider completes 4 NDL meetings, irrespective of whether home or away. To be effective 7 days after the last qualifying meeting. I think that final sentence is intended to cover the situation for all leagues thus should have been produced as a final paragraph. Being effective 7 days after has been applied to the leagues before, even when the criteria was 4H4A so will apply now from the 28th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 Now confirmed, Tarasenko's average is effective from the 28th so it is 7 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racin Jason 72 Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 If you can’t use tarasenko it’s probably best to postpone the meeting like last week 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 2 hours ago, StarBoy said: According to BV's preview they have Tarasenko down as a guest for Jorgensen as well They will have just used the wrong info provided by King’s Lynn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: Now confirmed, Tarasenko's average is effective from the 28th so it is 7 days. Confirmed where? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 27 minutes ago, therefused said: Confirmed where? Greensheets issue 27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelvinht Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 Can Tarasenko guest for Klindt and use the r/r for jorgensen? Won't make a lot of difference to the overall result. Belle Vue will still turn us over - just hope for some good racing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 32 minutes ago, kelvinht said: Can Tarasenko guest for Klindt and use the r/r for jorgensen? Won't make a lot of difference to the overall result. Belle Vue will still turn us over - just hope for some good racing Tarasenko can't guest for anyone till he gets an average on 28 August Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 31 minutes ago, kelvinht said: Can Tarasenko guest for Klindt and use the r/r for jorgensen? Won't make a lot of difference to the overall result. Belle Vue will still turn us over - just hope for some good racing Imo he should be able to.He's done the qualifying matches why they don't give these riders there averages straight away baffles me.Why do they have to wait 7 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, tellboy said: Imo he should be able to.He's done the qualifying matches why they don't give these riders there averages straight away baffles me.Why do they have to wait 7 days. Order and planning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 22 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Order and planning Order and planning,we are talking speedway here you know 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 2 hours ago, tellboy said: Imo he should be able to.He's done the qualifying matches why they don't give these riders there averages straight away baffles me.Why do they have to wait 7 days. Because team managers must give their line ups to BSPL two (?) days before a match. How can they do that if new averages mean a change in riding order in the intervening period. It would create an unworkable situation with programmes having to be printed on the day of the match. And what if a rider achieves his new average in the first half of a double header? Do we have to cross out names in as printed and write in lots of changes? These are good practical reasons why there is a 7 day time lag. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted August 24, 2023 Report Share Posted August 24, 2023 (edited) 43 minutes ago, arnieg said: Because team managers must give their line ups to BSPL two (?) days before a match. How can they do that if new averages mean a change in riding order in the intervening period. It would create an unworkable situation with programmes having to be printed on the day of the match. And what if a rider achieves his new average in the first half of a double header? Do we have to cross out names in as printed and write in lots of changes? These are good practical reasons why there is a 7 day time lag. Pretty ridiculous to build an entire sport around match-day programmes. Scorecards should be left blank and fans can fill them in. Tarasenko has an average and he should be allowed to ride. Speedway shoots itself in the foot, yet again. Edited August 24, 2023 by BassoRacingFan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted August 24, 2023 Report Share Posted August 24, 2023 10 hours ago, Rob B said: They will have just used the wrong info provided by King’s Lynn. And Mark Lemon does have a history of not quite understanding the guest rider rules when booking his own, so possibly wouldn't have questioned it.... It shows how seriously UK Speedway should be taken when a rider can help his team rise off the bottom of the league on Monday, and then be planned in to help put his own team back to the bottom on Thursday... Just let the lad ride. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarBoy Posted August 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2023 1 hour ago, mikebv said: And Mark Lemon does have a history of not quite understanding the guest rider rules when booking his own, so possibly wouldn't have questioned it.... It shows how seriously UK Speedway should be taken when a rider can help his team rise off the bottom of the league on Monday, and then be planned in to help put his own team back to the bottom on Thursday... Just let the lad ride. It's ok we got Jordan Jenkins instead 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted August 24, 2023 Report Share Posted August 24, 2023 37 minutes ago, StarBoy said: It's ok we got Jordan Jenkins instead Same old rubbish.I know we are governed by what teams aren't riding.No disrespect to Jenkins but did Lynn think of trying to get B.Cook instead,surely would have been a better replacement for TJ.You just know Hoggard will say after the meeting they asked about Cook. I like the fact S.Lambert wants a win for the fans,but not about the win for Dale,Dave and Buster,because they don't seem to care whether or not if they get a win with some of the miserable sides they have put out. This season has ranked as one of the lowest in my 50+ years of attending. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarBoy Posted August 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, tellboy said: Same old rubbish.I know we are governed by what teams aren't riding.No disrespect to Jenkins but did Lynn think of trying to get B.Cook instead,surely would have been a better replacement for TJ.You just know Hoggard will say after the meeting they asked about Cook. I like the fact S.Lambert wants a win for the fans,but not about the win for Dale,Dave and Buster,because they don't seem to care whether or not if they get a win with some of the miserable sides they have put out. This season has ranked as one of the lowest in my 50+ years of attending. I didn't think it could get much worse after the '21 season, but this has definitely taken the cake. It's not just even about the results and performances. The club is constantly being overshadowed by controversy. Meetings postponed for what can only be described as dubious. Riders absent with no real excuse. An owner who doesn't want to be there, the list goes on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted August 24, 2023 Report Share Posted August 24, 2023 (edited) Imo the club started a decline once a certain someone became involved. So tonight we have 4 reserves,a 2nd string or 3rd hl,and a number 1.What chance do you have against a team like Belle Vue. Sport imo is about being competitive,or in certain competitions the David v Goliath.But it shouldn't be the David v Goliath scenario every week. Edited August 24, 2023 by tellboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarBoy Posted August 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2023 38 minutes ago, tellboy said: Imo the club started a decline once a certain someone became involved. So tonight we have 4 reserves,a 2nd string or 3rd hl,and a number 1.What chance do you have against a team like Belle Vue. Sport imo is about being competitive,or in certain competitions the David v Goliath.But it shouldn't be the David v Goliath scenario every week. Oh well there is always next season where hopefully we can pick apart the Panthers team. Potential lineup: 1. Whichever big hitter the club can get (would like to see Lambert back for full season) and on that average have to pull out all the stops 2. Breum 3. Tarasenko 4. Basso 5. Klindt (if he wants to come back) 6. Wojdylo 7. Rowe (if he's still applicable) Ashton Boughen if not Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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