StarBoy Posted August 23, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 According to BV's preview they have Tarasenko down as a guest for Jorgensen as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 On 8/22/2023 at 10:31 PM, tocha said: It could just be that the regs.,yet again, are written badly. This is what it states:- A Premiership Assessed League rider will establish an MA after completing 3 home and 3 away qualifying fixtures. A Championship Assessed League rider will establish an MA after completing 8 qualifying fixtures. The most recently established MA will be used. If a rider has an established MA in both the Premiership and Championship Leagues, established in the same season, that leagues MA will apply to that league. NDL established MA’s are issued when a rider completes 4 NDL meetings, irrespective of whether home or away. To be effective 7 days after the last qualifying meeting. I think that final sentence is intended to cover the situation for all leagues thus should have been produced as a final paragraph. Expand Being effective 7 days after has been applied to the leagues before, even when the criteria was 4H4A so will apply now from the 28th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 Now confirmed, Tarasenko's average is effective from the 28th so it is 7 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racin Jason 72 Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 If you can’t use tarasenko it’s probably best to postpone the meeting like last week 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 On 8/23/2023 at 2:24 PM, StarBoy said: According to BV's preview they have Tarasenko down as a guest for Jorgensen as well Expand They will have just used the wrong info provided by King’s Lynn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 On 8/23/2023 at 3:08 PM, Daniel Smith said: Now confirmed, Tarasenko's average is effective from the 28th so it is 7 days. Expand Confirmed where? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 On 8/23/2023 at 5:09 PM, therefused said: Confirmed where? Expand Greensheets issue 27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelvinht Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 Can Tarasenko guest for Klindt and use the r/r for jorgensen? Won't make a lot of difference to the overall result. Belle Vue will still turn us over - just hope for some good racing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 On 8/23/2023 at 7:58 PM, kelvinht said: Can Tarasenko guest for Klindt and use the r/r for jorgensen? Won't make a lot of difference to the overall result. Belle Vue will still turn us over - just hope for some good racing Expand Tarasenko can't guest for anyone till he gets an average on 28 August Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 On 8/23/2023 at 7:58 PM, kelvinht said: Can Tarasenko guest for Klindt and use the r/r for jorgensen? Won't make a lot of difference to the overall result. Belle Vue will still turn us over - just hope for some good racing Expand Imo he should be able to.He's done the qualifying matches why they don't give these riders there averages straight away baffles me.Why do they have to wait 7 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 On 8/23/2023 at 8:31 PM, tellboy said: Imo he should be able to.He's done the qualifying matches why they don't give these riders there averages straight away baffles me.Why do they have to wait 7 days. Expand Order and planning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 On 8/23/2023 at 8:36 PM, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Order and planning Expand Order and planning,we are talking speedway here you know 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 On 8/23/2023 at 8:31 PM, tellboy said: Imo he should be able to.He's done the qualifying matches why they don't give these riders there averages straight away baffles me.Why do they have to wait 7 days. Expand Because team managers must give their line ups to BSPL two (?) days before a match. How can they do that if new averages mean a change in riding order in the intervening period. It would create an unworkable situation with programmes having to be printed on the day of the match. And what if a rider achieves his new average in the first half of a double header? Do we have to cross out names in as printed and write in lots of changes? These are good practical reasons why there is a 7 day time lag. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted August 24, 2023 Report Share Posted August 24, 2023 (edited) On 8/23/2023 at 11:30 PM, arnieg said: Because team managers must give their line ups to BSPL two (?) days before a match. How can they do that if new averages mean a change in riding order in the intervening period. It would create an unworkable situation with programmes having to be printed on the day of the match. And what if a rider achieves his new average in the first half of a double header? Do we have to cross out names in as printed and write in lots of changes? These are good practical reasons why there is a 7 day time lag. Expand Pretty ridiculous to build an entire sport around match-day programmes. Scorecards should be left blank and fans can fill them in. Tarasenko has an average and he should be allowed to ride. Speedway shoots itself in the foot, yet again. Edited August 24, 2023 by BassoRacingFan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted August 24, 2023 Report Share Posted August 24, 2023 On 8/23/2023 at 4:57 PM, Rob B said: They will have just used the wrong info provided by King’s Lynn. Expand And Mark Lemon does have a history of not quite understanding the guest rider rules when booking his own, so possibly wouldn't have questioned it.... It shows how seriously UK Speedway should be taken when a rider can help his team rise off the bottom of the league on Monday, and then be planned in to help put his own team back to the bottom on Thursday... Just let the lad ride. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarBoy Posted August 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2023 On 8/24/2023 at 3:33 AM, mikebv said: And Mark Lemon does have a history of not quite understanding the guest rider rules when booking his own, so possibly wouldn't have questioned it.... It shows how seriously UK Speedway should be taken when a rider can help his team rise off the bottom of the league on Monday, and then be planned in to help put his own team back to the bottom on Thursday... Just let the lad ride. Expand It's ok we got Jordan Jenkins instead 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted August 24, 2023 Report Share Posted August 24, 2023 On 8/24/2023 at 4:52 AM, StarBoy said: It's ok we got Jordan Jenkins instead Expand Same old rubbish.I know we are governed by what teams aren't riding.No disrespect to Jenkins but did Lynn think of trying to get B.Cook instead,surely would have been a better replacement for TJ.You just know Hoggard will say after the meeting they asked about Cook. I like the fact S.Lambert wants a win for the fans,but not about the win for Dale,Dave and Buster,because they don't seem to care whether or not if they get a win with some of the miserable sides they have put out. This season has ranked as one of the lowest in my 50+ years of attending. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarBoy Posted August 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2023 On 8/24/2023 at 5:35 AM, tellboy said: Same old rubbish.I know we are governed by what teams aren't riding.No disrespect to Jenkins but did Lynn think of trying to get B.Cook instead,surely would have been a better replacement for TJ.You just know Hoggard will say after the meeting they asked about Cook. I like the fact S.Lambert wants a win for the fans,but not about the win for Dale,Dave and Buster,because they don't seem to care whether or not if they get a win with some of the miserable sides they have put out. This season has ranked as one of the lowest in my 50+ years of attending. Expand I didn't think it could get much worse after the '21 season, but this has definitely taken the cake. It's not just even about the results and performances. The club is constantly being overshadowed by controversy. Meetings postponed for what can only be described as dubious. Riders absent with no real excuse. An owner who doesn't want to be there, the list goes on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted August 24, 2023 Report Share Posted August 24, 2023 (edited) Imo the club started a decline once a certain someone became involved. So tonight we have 4 reserves,a 2nd string or 3rd hl,and a number 1.What chance do you have against a team like Belle Vue. Sport imo is about being competitive,or in certain competitions the David v Goliath.But it shouldn't be the David v Goliath scenario every week. Edited August 24, 2023 by tellboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarBoy Posted August 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2023 On 8/24/2023 at 5:56 AM, tellboy said: Imo the club started a decline once a certain someone became involved. So tonight we have 4 reserves,a 2nd string or 3rd hl,and a number 1.What chance do you have against a team like Belle Vue. Sport imo is about being competitive,or in certain competitions the David v Goliath.But it shouldn't be the David v Goliath scenario every week. Expand Oh well there is always next season where hopefully we can pick apart the Panthers team. Potential lineup: 1. Whichever big hitter the club can get (would like to see Lambert back for full season) and on that average have to pull out all the stops 2. Breum 3. Tarasenko 4. Basso 5. Klindt (if he wants to come back) 6. Wojdylo 7. Rowe (if he's still applicable) Ashton Boughen if not Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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