Ashton Boughen

[Fromafar]

2 hours ago, iainb said:

He may have done but didn't Lambert spend some time in the lower leagues? I think Loram also started with Hackney in the lower league. Screeny came straight into the top flight with Belle Vue and never rode in the lower leagues until his career started to tail off (from memory)

Hackney in the then lower league  in these days was probably harder than todays Premiership.IMO 

[Bald Bloke]

2 hours ago, iainb said:

He may have done but didn't Lambert spend some time in the lower leagues? I think Loram also started with Hackney in the lower league. Screeny came straight into the top flight with Belle Vue and never rode in the lower leagues until his career started to tail off (from memory)

You could be right there. I know there wasn't a lower league when Mike started. I have been keeping an eye on Ashton as he's a Lynn lad, and used to go to the wife's primary school with his brother. Even back then, both brothers that had  immaculate MX kit. Being British MX champ and world No.8. He must be a focused and determined lad.   

Edited August 29, 2023 by Bald Bloke

[IainB]

59 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said:

You could be right there. I know there wasn't a lower league when Mike started. I have been keeping an eye on Ashton as he's a Lynn lad, and used to go to the wife's primary school with his brother. Even back then, both brothers that had  immaculate MX kit. Being British MX champ and world No.8. He must be a focused and determined lad.   

I think Kenny Cater went straight into the Halifax team and doubled up with Newcastle, was averaging over 8 within a season... they don't hit the scene like that anymore but I suppose the overall quality of rider is higher these days

[scampispeedway]

ianb, Kenny Carter rode for Newcastle in 1978 as reserve and took part in 41 matches with 1 full maximum 5 paid maximums

and ended up with an average of 7.58, he also rode in 16 matches for the Halifax Dukes and ended up with an average of 5.40.

On my way to see a Newcastle away meeting I called in to Kings Lynn Speedway in 1986 where he happened to be riding for the

Bradford Team and it turned out to be his last match because the next thing I read about was that he had shot his wife dead and

then killed himself.

Bob 

Edited August 29, 2023 by scampispeedway

[mikebaker]

Gary Havelock first season at Middlesbrough in 1985, was averaging over 7. 1986 season over 8. He also rode 15 meetings for Bradford in 1986, and was averaging over 7.

[Fromafar]

1 hour ago, Bald Bloke said:

You could be right there. I know there wasn't a lower league when Mike started. I have been keeping an eye on Ashton as he's a Lynn lad, and used to go to the wife's primary school with his brother. Even back then, both brothers that had  immaculate MX kit. Being British MX champ and world No.8. He must be a focused and determined lad.   

The National League was the lower league when Mike Lee started but it certainly was very high standard .It was not junior riders as the NDL is today.Like you saying Ashton although new to speedway  certainly knows how to ride a motorbike.In Lee ‘s day most of the youngsters  from the Grasstrack scene.

[IainB]

8 minutes ago, scampispeedway said:

ianb, Kenny Carter rode for Newcastle in 1978 as reserve and took part in 41 matches with 1 full maximum 5 paid maximums

and ended up with an average of 7.58, he also rode in 16 matches for the Halifax Dukes and ended up with an average of 5.40.

On my way to see a Newcastle away meeting I called in to Kings Lynn Speedway in 1986 where he happened to be riding for the

Bradford Team and it turned out to be his last match because the next thing I read about was that he had shot his wife dead and

then killed himself.

Bob 

Still, a pretty meteoric rise

[WembleyLion]

Time will tell if young Ashton becomes as talented in his teenage years as the likes of Lee, Collins, Morton, Carter, Havelock, Loram, Screen and more recently Woffinden, Bewley and Lambert.

Hopefully he will be guided well and steered away from distractions that have befallen some other young riders over the years.

 

 

Edited August 29, 2023 by WembleyLion

[Nickinho]

18 hours ago, scampispeedway said:

On my way to see a Newcastle away meeting I called in to Kings Lynn Speedway in 1986 where he happened to be riding for the

Bradford Team and it turned out to be his last match because the next thing I read about was that he had shot his wife dead and

then killed himself.

Bob 

Who is Bob?

[scampispeedway]

Nickinho, someone who used to follow speedway 1964-2005 but no longer go because the entertainment spectacle I saw every passing year

 diminished to a point where I said to myself that is it and spent my money elsewhere.

Bob

[Jonnybegood]

1 hour ago, scampispeedway said:

Nickinho, someone who used to follow speedway 1964-2005 but no longer go because the entertainment spectacle I saw every passing year

 diminished to a point where I said to myself that is it and spent my money elsewhere.

Bob

So why on earth do you still follow the forums you sad person ,  20 years on and you still cannot let it go . Grow up for gods sake . I suppose you would go to the pub except the staff always put a froth head on the beer .

[therefused]

46 minutes ago, Jonnybegood said:

So why on earth do you still follow the forums you sad person ,  20 years on and you still cannot let it go . Grow up for gods sake . I suppose you would go to the pub except the staff always put a froth head on the beer .

There’s no rule that you have to go to speedway to be on this forum though?

[Jonnybegood]

Just now, therefused said:

There’s no rule that you have to go to speedway to be on this forum though?

That is true . Everyone deserves a life , just that a few prefer to lead a very sad life and spend a lifetime complaining even though they do not attend . Probably complain at the price of a hooker but hasn’t had a hard on in years 

[DazS]

1 hour ago, therefused said:

There’s no rule that you have to go to speedway to be on this forum though?

if there was how would you police it.

[bruno]

12 hours ago, Jonnybegood said:

So why on earth do you still follow the forums you sad person ,  20 years on and you still cannot let it go . Grow up for gods sake . I suppose you would go to the pub except the staff always put a froth head on the beer .

It's something I've never understood, with Wolves going next year i imagine il still follow it for a while with the hope their back 2025 but I won't be coming on here I wouldn't have thought or buying speedway star . il just accept it's over for me. Certainly won't be following something I have no interest in in 20 years

[Ben91]

13 hours ago, Jonnybegood said:

So why on earth do you still follow the forums you sad person ,  20 years on and you still cannot let it go . Grow up for gods sake . I suppose you would go to the pub except the staff always put a froth head on the beer .

Some people actually follow through with it when they say they’re fed up of the dross that’s served up and are going to walk away. Doesn’t mean they’re not fans of the sport, but of how it is run. 

I’m a Speedway fan but it would take a lot to get me to a domestic meeting these days. Doesn’t mean I don’t follow it. I just refuse to hand over my money because doing so tells the people running the clubs they’re doing a good enough job. They’re not. 

“Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.” Albert Einstein. 

[cowboy cookie returns?]

On 8/29/2023 at 2:39 PM, iainb said:

He may have done but didn't Lambert spend some time in the lower leagues? I think Loram also started with Hackney in the lower league. Screeny came straight into the top flight with Belle Vue and never rode in the lower leagues until his career started to tail off (from memory)

Loram rode in the British League for Hackney in 1987 when 16. He then had two years at National League level in 88/89 with Hackney & Ipswich before returning to the British League full time at Lynn.

[IainB]

19 minutes ago, cowboy cookie returns? said:

Loram rode in the British League for Hackney in 1987 when 16. He then had two years at National League level in 88/89 with Hackney & Ipswich before returning to the British League full time at Lynn.

I stand corrected... what a talent though, came from a grasstrack background, don't see that so much these days

[Neila]

3 hours ago, bruno said:

It's something I've never understood, with Wolves going next year i imagine il still follow it for a while with the hope their back 2025 but I won't be coming on here I wouldn't have thought or buying speedway star . il just accept it's over for me. Certainly won't be following something I have no interest in in 20 years

When Workington closed in 1981 I still followed speedway, traveling to Bradford, belle Vue Middlesbrough etc and the one off championship rounds. Never lost the interest still got speedway star, no forums back then, Today still following speedway lots of away trips, worky been reborn twice 1999 and 2023 I'm still enjoying the journey 

[Bojangles]

4 hours ago, Ben91 said:

Some people actually follow through with it when they say they’re fed up of the dross that’s served up and are going to walk away. Doesn’t mean they’re not fans of the sport, but of how it is run. 

I’m a Speedway fan but it would take a lot to get me to a domestic meeting these days. Doesn’t mean I don’t follow it. I just refuse to hand over my money because doing so tells the people running the clubs they’re doing a good enough job. They’re not. 

“Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.” Albert Einstein. 

I find it amazing that somebody would not hand over money to pay for something they enjoy just to make a point. Hate to say it, but it's not going to change just because you stopped going. Enjoy your life, and do the things you enjoy. If there's no speedway in this country in 10/20 years, you'll end up regretting it I'm sure. But each to their own.