Ben91 Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 The hype around Boughen seems huge compared to the likes of Kemp and Palin who had better first seasons in the NL in the not too distant past. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Barabas said: If there is still 2 leagues next Yr & Oxford go up would you please come to glasgow ashton if we're in 2nd tier ..heh heh Might only be two leagues instead of three ...where that would leave Worky? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 14 minutes ago, Ben91 said: The hype around Boughen seems huge compared to the likes of Kemp and Palin who had better first seasons in the NL in the not too distant past. Maybe because he's come from nowhere? The others were strong in under age events before they turned 15, Boughen has been startling, considering his lack of experience (similar to Bewley) 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Tsunami Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 17 minutes ago, topaz325 said: Might only be two leagues instead of three ...where that would leave Worky? Well I don't think they would ever consider being in the top league at this stage, but I suppose it would depend on the planned strength of the lower league. If there was more emphasis on a development type league rather than a Championship League I would think they would be in it. With such an investment in Worky I can't see it being just a training track, its too good for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, 1Tsunami said: Well I don't think they would ever consider being in the top league at this stage, but I suppose it would depend on the planned strength of the lower league. If there was more emphasis on a development type league rather than a Championship League I would think they would be in it. With such an investment in Worky I can't see it being just a training track, its too good for that. Never even entered my head top League, costs would have to come down even to enter Championship, with the way clubs are now in the NDL things do not look good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, HGould said: A lot of conjecture and guesswork on here - especially about fees. It was definitely suggested in an article last winter in the Speedway Star that AB was being mentored by Lewi Kerr and if so, probably getting some expert bike set up help from Steve Norman. That's a far bigger reason I think why he's chosen Oxford as he'll also know Peter Shroeck well too and not a long haul trip for him either. As for Poland - for god sake give the kid a break, at the moment he's promising and clearly talented but not yet the second coming of the Messiah! I have heard Zmarzlik is retiring now this lad will be riding full time... "No point carrying on" said Bartek... Just let the kid ride and find his level... Seems to be a bit of jealousy on here around his signing... Surprise. Surprise... Edited August 23, 2023 by mikebv 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flagrag Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 As others have alluded we don’t know the final fee but it is substantial amount for a 16yr olds signature and Oxford have done well. Previous to this all indications were that Ashton was not swayed by money as family already invested significantly in his Speedway career paying for top equipment, personal 1-1 sessions with Speedway legends and current GP riders maybe they feel now is the time to try and get some return on that investment With regards to Poland I have been told that Wrocław are keen to strengthen their U24 team up and have dangled the same carrot that was given to Dan Bewley sign for us get Unlimited practice and help with equipment with the chance to ride ExtraLiga if he beats their juniors if not he will be loaned out to a lower league team 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 58 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: Maybe because he's come from nowhere? The others were strong in under age events before they turned 15, Boughen has been startling, considering his lack of experience (similar to Bewley) That’s fair. I did wonder if there was an underlying reason. Let’s hope he can emulate Dan in the future too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 15 minutes ago, flagrag said: With regards to Poland I have been told that Wrocław are keen to strengthen their U24 team up and have dangled the same carrot that was given to Dan Bewley sign for us get Unlimited practice and help with equipment with the chance to ride ExtraLiga if he beats their juniors if not he will be loaned out to a lower league team So they should - lost 63-27 yesterday. [And would join Luke Killeen too]. Finished bottom with one win and 15 defeats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 1 hour ago, flagrag said: As others have alluded we don’t know the final fee but it is substantial amount for a 16yr olds signature and Oxford have done well. Previous to this all indications were that Ashton was not swayed by money as family already invested significantly in his Speedway career paying for top equipment, personal 1-1 sessions with Speedway legends and current GP riders maybe they feel now is the time to try and get some return on that investment With regards to Poland I have been told that Wrocław are keen to strengthen their U24 team up and have dangled the same carrot that was given to Dan Bewley sign for us get Unlimited practice and help with equipment with the chance to ride ExtraLiga if he beats their juniors if not he will be loaned out to a lower league team I would not think there are many if any Polish Junior U16 riders in the Ekstraliga which is why the U24 League was set up. He could be loaned out to Liga 1 or 2 teams though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 2 hours ago, IronScorpion said: I would not think there are many if any Polish Junior U16 riders in the Ekstraliga which is why the U24 League was set up. He could be loaned out to Liga 1 or 2 teams though. No Poles, but one Ukrainian.- Parnitsky Four 17 year olds: Paluch, Mencel, Kupiciec and Affelt. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted August 25, 2023 Report Share Posted August 25, 2023 Ashton has been included, as the Reserve, in the GB U19 Pairs squad in Pardubice, along with Sam Hagon and Joe Thompson. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidder1 Posted August 25, 2023 Report Share Posted August 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Gambo said: Ashton has been included, as the Reserve, in the GB U19 Pairs squad in Pardubice, along with Sam Hagon and Joe Thompson. When is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted August 25, 2023 Report Share Posted August 25, 2023 13 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: When is it? 2nd September. Pardubice 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted August 25, 2023 Report Share Posted August 25, 2023 Who gets priority on the 8th Sept fixture clash? Oxford at Glasgow whilst Leicester Cubs are at Belle Vue. Big fixtures for both teams...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted August 25, 2023 Report Share Posted August 25, 2023 15 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said: Who gets priority on the 8th Sept fixture clash? Oxford at Glasgow whilst Leicester Cubs are at Belle Vue. Big fixtures for both teams...... Will be Oxford. It is always the Champ team that takes priority 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted August 25, 2023 Report Share Posted August 25, 2023 He's probably not finished growing yet. Maybe need to wait till he's 18 before knowing that he's small/light enough to possibly become world class, because those seem to be prerequisites these days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickinho Posted August 25, 2023 Report Share Posted August 25, 2023 45 minutes ago, Big Al said: He's probably not finished growing yet. Maybe need to wait till he's 18 before knowing that he's small/light enough to possibly become world class, because those seem to be prerequisites these days Tony Rickardsson wasn't particularly small or light but I get what you are saying. He's a natural speedway rider but being small/light is no use without experience, confidence and maturity. If he acquires all four he will be a very good rider in a few years time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted August 25, 2023 Report Share Posted August 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, Nickinho said: Tony Rickardsson wasn't particularly small or light but I get what you are saying. He's a natural speedway rider but being small/light is no use without experience, confidence and maturity. If he acquires all four he will be a very good rider in a few years time Watched him at the youths at Glasgow boy has it very stylish and in control. He will progress at his own pace but a talent like him at just turned 16 only comes along so often , good luck to the kid. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted August 26, 2023 Report Share Posted August 26, 2023 12 hours ago, Sings4Speedway said: Who gets priority on the 8th Sept fixture clash? Oxford at Glasgow whilst Leicester Cubs are at Belle Vue. Big fixtures for both teams...... Imagine Oxford planned a home Champ match the same day as the Chargers were at Leicester in the NL play-off, to stop Boughen racing against them lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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