Fromafar Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 Ashton not quite living up to the hype. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWellBehavedWorrall Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Ashton not quite living up to the hype. That’s an incredible take. The boy first rode a competitive speedway fixture less than twelve months ago and only turned sixteen about 40 days ago, so what exactly is it you’re expecting? In my opinion, based on watching him live on two occasions, I’ve never saw a rider that age gate so competitively or enter corners with so much pace and confidence; his technique is beyond his years. I’m a huge believer in giving youth an opportunity in any sport, but I assume you’re a Glasgow fan, so what are your thoughts on Ace Pijper scoring only 4 points across both meetings in comparison to Boughen’s 4+1? Edited October 4, 2023 by TheWellBehavedWorrall 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cast1rn Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 He's going to be the envy of every other team in their building of next year since he's going to have had some experience but will still be on a 2 for 2024. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelinho Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Fromafar said: Ashton not quite living up to the hype. He's fast, but he needs to learn racing and positioning around others. When you're the big fish in the small pond like he was until now, you don't need those skills. If he's the real deal, they will come. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigred Posted October 5, 2023 Report Share Posted October 5, 2023 15 hours ago, Noelinho said: He's fast, but he needs to learn racing and positioning around others. When you're the big fish in the small pond like he was until now, you don't need those skills. If he's the real deal, they will come. He’s raced moto cross since he were very young,so I’m pretty sure he’s used to riding with others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac101 Posted October 5, 2023 Report Share Posted October 5, 2023 2 hours ago, bigred said: He’s raced moto cross since he were very young,so I’m pretty sure he’s used to riding with others. He raced at the highest level in MX too with 40 riders going into the first bent rather than 4 don’t think first bends will faze him really he just needs to be a bit harder but that will come with experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted October 5, 2023 Report Share Posted October 5, 2023 I remember Lee Richardson when he joined Poole as a raw kid. 0,0,0 virtually every week. But he showed good signs of potential like Boughen. Lee went in to have a great career. He needs time and if he is dedicated there’s no reason why he can’t emulate Bewley or Lambert. Good luck to the lad. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigred Posted October 5, 2023 Report Share Posted October 5, 2023 4 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: I remember Lee Richardson when he joined Poole as a raw kid. 0,0,0 virtually every week. But he showed good signs of potential like Boughen. Lee went in to have a great career. He needs time and if he is dedicated there’s no reason why he can’t emulate Bewley or Lambert. Good luck to the lad. He’s definitely committed to being a speedway rider and has the family backing/finances to take him all the way.He’ll be with Robert and Dan in the next few years for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 23 Report Share Posted October 23 (edited) He's had a solid enough first full year in the CL & PL and has taken some big scalps... he seems to have developed a case of the Speedway yips with first bends at the end of the season though which must be a massive worry for anybody that he's signed for for next season. Reading back through some of the comments from a while back this has been an issue before now. Edited October 23 by IainB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heathcote Posted October 23 Report Share Posted October 23 To be honest its only the last 6 meetings, obviously 6 rather important meetings and meetings that where all televised for the watching public to see.....despite the best efforts of the BSN commentary teams to gloss over it. It's all been since his incident in Heat 10 at the CLRC, the 2 meetings before that he bagged 26 points from 9 rides, so did that incident at Redcar cause him injury far worse than anyones letting on, or did it "scare" him far more than he dare admit . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted October 24 Report Share Posted October 24 10 hours ago, IainB said: He's had a solid enough first full year in the CL & PL and has taken some big scalps... he seems to have developed a case of the Speedway yips with first bends at the end of the season though which must be a massive worry for anybody that he's signed for for next season. Reading back through some of the comments from a while back this has been an issue before now. 8 hours ago, Youhave2minutes said: Kings Lynn will be concerned next year I’m sure I doubt it, otherwise they wouldn't have picked him, could've gone for Jenkins or Flint if they thought he'd "lost his bottle" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 24 Report Share Posted October 24 8 hours ago, Heathcote said: To be honest its only the last 6 meetings, obviously 6 rather important meetings and meetings that where all televised for the watching public to see.....despite the best efforts of the BSN commentary teams to gloss over it. It's all been since his incident in Heat 10 at the CLRC, the 2 meetings before that he bagged 26 points from 9 rides, so did that incident at Redcar cause him injury far worse than anyones letting on, or did it "scare" him far more than he dare admit . How do you explain the victories against Richard Lawson around Poole though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 24 Report Share Posted October 24 11 minutes ago, Youhave2minutes said: Perhaps he’s alright if he gates and goes perhaps don’t want to mix it with the others He's never going to "make it" as a Speedway rider if he continues to do that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bojangles Posted October 24 Author Report Share Posted October 24 2 minutes ago, IainB said: He's never going to "make it" as a Speedway rider if he continues to do that That's the problem. If he does continue to do it, then it's going to backfire on Oxford and King's Lynn in 2025. However, he's got that potential to significantly raise his average if he finds his form again. I think I'd rather have in my team in case it's the latter. A lot easier to release him if he struggles (let's hope it doesn't come to that) than try and sign him if he's in red-hot form. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted October 24 Report Share Posted October 24 20 minutes ago, Youhave2minutes said: Perhaps he’s alright if he gates and goes perhaps don’t want to mix it with the others That was my thought.. I havent watched him but he does seem to be able to win races, and against "decent" opposition.. Which suggests that when out in front, (just like in practice when you are the only one out on track), he can go fast... Coming off the throttle time and again is a big issue that needs addressing, and quickly.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted October 24 Report Share Posted October 24 6 minutes ago, mikebv said: That was my thought.. I havent watched him but he does seem to be able to win races, and against "decent" opposition.. Which suggests that when out in front, (just like in practice when you are the only one out on track), he can go fast... Coming off the throttle time and again is a big issue that needs addressing, and quickly.. Big problem is that its the wrong time of year to resolve it. Ashton can and likely will spend the winter doing countless laps of very fast practice and equipment testing but will never know if the issue has been dealt with until he returns to the tapes in competitive fixtures. No doubt a huge talent but can't shake the feeling he will walk away over the next season or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 24 Report Share Posted October 24 On 10/4/2023 at 1:01 PM, TheWellBehavedWorrall said: That’s an incredible take. The boy first rode a competitive speedway fixture less than twelve months ago and only turned sixteen about 40 days ago, so what exactly is it you’re expecting? In my opinion, based on watching him live on two occasions, I’ve never saw a rider that age gate so competitively or enter corners with so much pace and confidence; his technique is beyond his years. I’m a huge believer in giving youth an opportunity in any sport, but I assume you’re a Glasgow fan, so what are your thoughts on Ace Pijper scoring only 4 points across both meetings in comparison to Boughen’s 4+1? Seems to have lost his 1st Bend confidence and just gives up, not a good sign.IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j2ohh Posted October 24 Report Share Posted October 24 12 minutes ago, Youhave2minutes said: It’s concerning its called preservation . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j2ohh Posted October 24 Report Share Posted October 24 1 minute ago, Youhave2minutes said: Turning if he’s not careful to isolation And then desperation . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heathcote Posted October 24 Report Share Posted October 24 As I said it’s only recent as he wasn’t shutting off going into the first bends prior to the CLRC and as it says above if he gets to the first bend in front he’s off and gone, it’s only when he realises that he may have to get the elbows out in the first turn does he shut off. Similar thing happened in the first leg of the cup at home, heat 8 I think it was, clearly appeared to have the speed to get past Foord, but every time he got close or had the chance to go outside him, he shut off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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