szkocjasid Posted September 14, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2023 After the first day of the Champ play-offs the results have certainly made it interesting. Scunthorpe gaining an unexpected "draw" at Poole and a 10 point win for Oxford that means the bonus point could go both ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted September 23, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2023 I wonder if they'll stick with the groups format next year? One issue is so many clubs racing on their off day, plus the struggles to arrange postponed fixtures. If it was a simple knockout & Edinburgh vs Poole is rained off, you can pick the next Friday, as it is, the following week Edinburgh could be racing Scunthorpe, then Poole vs Scunthorpe etc. I know they want as many teams in the play-offs as possible (to earn money) but do clubs get big crowds when racing on their off race nights? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisB Posted September 23, 2023 Report Share Posted September 23, 2023 On 9/23/2023 at 8:29 PM, szkocjasid said: I wonder if they'll stick with the groups format next year? One issue is so many clubs racing on their off day, plus the struggles to arrange postponed fixtures. If it was a simple knockout & Edinburgh vs Poole is rained off, you can pick the next Friday, as it is, the following week Edinburgh could be racing Scunthorpe, then Poole vs Scunthorpe etc. I know they want as many teams in the play-offs as possible (to earn money) but do clubs get big crowds when racing on their off race nights? Expand 1v4 & 2v3 would have ensured 4 competitive teams and as you say much easier to reschedule rainoffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelinho Posted September 23, 2023 Report Share Posted September 23, 2023 On 9/23/2023 at 8:45 PM, KrisB said: 1v4 & 2v3 would have ensured 4 competitive teams and as you say much easier to reschedule rainoffs Expand 3v6 and 4v5 would work, and would remove 4 fixtures from the playoffs. Starting on time would help a bit too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelinho Posted September 23, 2023 Report Share Posted September 23, 2023 On 9/23/2023 at 8:29 PM, szkocjasid said: I know they want as many teams in the play-offs as possible (to earn money) but do clubs get big crowds when racing on their off race nights? Expand Glasgow and Edinburgh definitely both struggled for attendance today. Glasgow’s match clashed with the Celtic game, which I’m sure didn’t help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisB Posted September 23, 2023 Report Share Posted September 23, 2023 On 9/23/2023 at 8:48 PM, Noelinho said: 3v6 and 4v5 would work, and would remove 4 fixtures from the playoffs. Starting on time would help a bit too. Expand But 1&2 then have n weeks with no fixtures… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted September 23, 2023 Report Share Posted September 23, 2023 On 9/23/2023 at 8:49 PM, Noelinho said: Glasgow and Edinburgh definitely both struggled for attendance today. Glasgow’s match clashed with the Celtic game, which I’m sure didn’t help. Expand Still a healthy crowd though for an off day fixture. Seemed to fill up just before star time. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelinho Posted September 23, 2023 Report Share Posted September 23, 2023 On 9/23/2023 at 8:50 PM, KrisB said: But 1&2 then have n weeks with no fixtures… Expand That’s a fair point, but if I was being flippant, I might say that’s no different to most other weeks in the season! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted September 23, 2023 Report Share Posted September 23, 2023 On 9/23/2023 at 8:49 PM, Noelinho said: Glasgow and Edinburgh definitely both struggled for attendance today. Glasgow’s match clashed with the Celtic game, which I’m sure didn’t help. Expand Glasgow never have big crowds do they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelinho Posted September 23, 2023 Report Share Posted September 23, 2023 On 9/23/2023 at 8:52 PM, Skidder1 said: Glasgow never have big crowds do they? Expand I honestly don’t know what our real crowd numbers are. I’ve heard figures of 1,000 recently. Not sure I believe that. 800 seems more like what I’ve seen, but maybe there are people in places I don’t see. It’s also pointless to count anyone who didn’t have to pay to get in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted September 23, 2023 Report Share Posted September 23, 2023 On 9/23/2023 at 8:59 PM, Noelinho said: I honestly don’t know what our real crowd numbers are. I’ve heard figures of 1,000 recently. Not sure I believe that. 800 seems more like what I’ve seen, but maybe there are people in places I don’t see. It’s also pointless to count anyone who didn’t have to pay to get in. Expand I have never understood why attendance figures are never published at Speedway the way Football figures are published. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted September 23, 2023 Report Share Posted September 23, 2023 (edited) On 9/23/2023 at 8:50 PM, KrisB said: But 1&2 then have n weeks with no fixtures… Expand Most of the riders have other Teams too. Ride for though between Poland Premiership and guesting.Letting the Top Team pick both opponents was a mistake IMO. Edited September 23, 2023 by Fromafar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted September 23, 2023 Report Share Posted September 23, 2023 On 9/23/2023 at 8:52 PM, Skidder1 said: Glasgow never have big crowds do they? Expand Compared to other Championship track they have IMO.Poole is an exception though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigger63 Posted September 25, 2023 Report Share Posted September 25, 2023 On 9/23/2023 at 8:52 PM, Skidder1 said: Glasgow never have big crowds do they? Expand have u ever been to berwick ... edinburgh birmingham . i went to edinburgh on saturday night ... lucky if there were 400 .... around 30 were glasgow supporters who had done both meetings..... also have u ever been to ashfield recently ..... racing is good .... alot better than the crap u provide at poole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbw Posted September 25, 2023 Report Share Posted September 25, 2023 (edited) On 9/23/2023 at 9:05 PM, Gazc said: I have never understood why attendance figures are never published at Speedway the way Football figures are published. Expand Tax man?! Edited September 25, 2023 by lbw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbw Posted September 25, 2023 Report Share Posted September 25, 2023 (edited) On 9/25/2023 at 2:09 PM, tigger63 said: have u ever been to berwick ... edinburgh birmingham . i went to edinburgh on saturday night ... lucky if there were 400 .... around 30 were glasgow supporters who had done both meetings..... also have u ever been to ashfield recently ..... racing is good .... alot better than the crap u provide at poole. Expand I admit that the track may not be that consistent as others in it's entertainment value but what it does help provide is the most successful team ever & also the biggest crowds! Not bad for ur perceived view of it being 'crap'! Edited September 25, 2023 by lbw 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted September 25, 2023 Report Share Posted September 25, 2023 On 9/25/2023 at 2:09 PM, tigger63 said: have u ever been to berwick ... edinburgh birmingham . i went to edinburgh on saturday night ... lucky if there were 400 .... around 30 were glasgow supporters who had done both meetings..... also have u ever been to ashfield recently ..... racing is good .... alot better than the crap u provide at poole. Expand I wasn't seeking to compare Glasgow with Edinburgh Birmingham etc( incidentally I've been to both but not Berwick) but if one follows your argument about 'good racing' then crowds would be spilling out into surrounding roads in Glasgow every week!! There has to be a level of sustained success to maintain good crowd levels. As well as having the 'sports most successful promoter' - not my words simply those of the reporter covering the Coventry Stadium Inquiry! PS. I haven't been to Ashfield this season and hopefully won't have to if Oxford do the biz tomorrow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted September 25, 2023 Report Share Posted September 25, 2023 On 9/25/2023 at 3:59 PM, Skidder1 said: I wasn't seeking to compare Glasgow with Edinburgh Birmingham etc( incidentally I've been to both but not Berwick) but if one follows your argument about 'good racing' then crowds would be spilling out into surrounding roads in Glasgow every week!! There has to be a level of sustained success to maintain good crowd levels. As well as having the 'sports most successful promoter' - not my words simply those of the reporter covering the Coventry Stadium Inquiry! PS. I haven't been to Ashfield this season and hopefully won't have to if Oxford do the biz tomorrow! Expand Glasgow have decent crowds though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bojangles Posted September 25, 2023 Report Share Posted September 25, 2023 (edited) On 9/25/2023 at 2:19 PM, lbw said: I admit that the track may not be that consistent as others in it's entertainment value but what it does help provide is the most successful team ever & also the biggest crowds! Not bad for ur perceived view of it being 'crap'! Expand Leicester City have the most second tier titles in the English Football League, does that make them the most successful team ever? Typical Poole-fan logic. I think you'll find Belle Vue (13) have the most top tier titles in British speedway! And do you have any proof Poole have the biggest crowds, every time I've been they've been down on the crowds Oxford currently get. Edited September 25, 2023 by Bojangles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigger63 Posted September 25, 2023 Report Share Posted September 25, 2023 On 9/25/2023 at 3:59 PM, Skidder1 said: I wasn't seeking to compare Glasgow with Edinburgh Birmingham etc( incidentally I've been to both but not Berwick) but if one follows your argument about 'good racing' then crowds would be spilling out into surrounding roads in Glasgow every week!! There has to be a level of sustained success to maintain good crowd levels. As well as having the 'sports most successful promoter' - not my words simply those of the reporter covering the Coventry Stadium Inquiry! PS. I haven't been to Ashfield this season and hopefully won't have to if Oxford do the biz tomorrow! Expand i admit saturdays crowd was down on our normal but it was the glasgow bank holiday weekend . plus the meeting was rearranged at short notice.... add to that football football was on ...... ps hope we meet u in the final..... lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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