Robert Lee Posted August 14, 2023 Report Share Posted August 14, 2023 Does this sound familiar? Developer buys popular local property which stands on prime development site. Property catches fire a week later, and Fire Brigade has trouble reaching it due to mysterious obstacles in the access road. Fire put out and building is salvageable, investigators are sure it's arson and plan return visit to find the evidence. Next day it is completely flattened by persons unknown using bulldozer on hire to nearby recycling company, owned by guess who? Yep, aforesaid developer. Midlanders will have been reading the saga of The Crooked House, and it even made the national news. How many speedway stadia have gone that way. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted August 14, 2023 Report Share Posted August 14, 2023 I can name six pubs off the top of my head in Birmingham and Solihull that went exactly the same way. It’s shocking how the law just lets it happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted August 14, 2023 Report Share Posted August 14, 2023 CAMRA have 'Pub Preservation Officers'. In the West Mids it's more appropriate to have 'Pub Demolition Officers'. Banks's Brewery claim(ed) 'Unspoilt By Progress' . Shame this didn't apply when The Elephant & Castle Pub near the Molineux 'vanished' overnight. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted August 14, 2023 Report Share Posted August 14, 2023 42 minutes ago, Deano said: I can name six pubs off the top of my head in Birmingham and Solihull that went exactly the same way. It’s shocking how the law just lets it happen. As discussed on Facebook It's one thing suspecting or "knowing" that these fires are "insurance jobs" but it's quite another to prove it. I just hope that the insurance companies aren't conned because it's your premiums and mine that fund the pay-outs. It's US that are getting conned at the end of the day. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted August 14, 2023 Report Share Posted August 14, 2023 2 hours ago, uk_martin said: It's one thing suspecting or "knowing" that these fires are "insurance jobs" but it's quite another to prove it. And of course where arson is proved, it's always 'kids' who've broken in to burn the place down... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted August 15, 2023 Report Share Posted August 15, 2023 14 hours ago, Lefty said: CAMRA have 'Pub Preservation Officers'. In the West Mids it's more appropriate to have 'Pub Demolition Officers'. Banks's Brewery claim(ed) 'Unspoilt By Progress' . Shame this didn't apply when The Elephant & Castle Pub near the Molineux 'vanished' overnight. Which is now alive & well, exactly as it was, at the 'Black Country Living Museum.' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOS50 Posted August 15, 2023 Report Share Posted August 15, 2023 (edited) New York Times article well worth a look, including a wicked photo from 1907. Edited August 15, 2023 by JOS50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 For a piece of state-sponsored vandalism, it would be hard to beat the unnecessary destruction of the Bree Louise pub, near to Euston station, London. A wonderful place for a pint or two before getting the train, meeting up with people, just a very sociable place where strangers shared tables. And now gone, because of some plan to build a new rail terminal which now looks like it will never happen. The phrase "rebuild brick by brick" should apply in this instance, too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, Big Al said: For a piece of state-sponsored vandalism, it would be hard to beat the unnecessary destruction of the Bree Louise pub, near to Euston station, London. A wonderful place for a pint or two before getting the train, meeting up with people, just a very sociable place where strangers shared tables. And now gone, because of some plan to build a new rail terminal which now looks like it will never happen. The phrase "rebuild brick by brick" should apply in this instance, too. So true, an absolute gem, sadly missed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepturningleft Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 There’s too much arson about… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, keepturningleft said: There’s too much arson about… Apparently a thatched restuarant in Harome not far from where I live was set alight when the landlord evicted a customer from the pub who insisted on smoking and he threw his cigarette butt onto the thatch...anarchy rules! Edited August 22, 2023 by steve roberts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frigbo Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 Exactly the same with the Corn Exchange building in Swindon's Old Town. Failed planning application and two fires in so far and just the external walls now remain. From a speedway perspective, Newport's Queensway Meadows Stadium situation seemed mighty coincidental.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazS Posted August 25, 2023 Report Share Posted August 25, 2023 what do you think the wild fires in California and Maui and Canada are about + others. clue it isn't global warming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted August 25, 2023 Report Share Posted August 25, 2023 Some will never believe the truth, because they are being played by bots Maui County is suing energy firm Hawaiian Electric, saying it failed to turn off electric equipment before wildfires started on the island. In California, power lines have been blamed for half of the state's most destructive wildfires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazS Posted August 25, 2023 Report Share Posted August 25, 2023 oh so they new the wild fires were going to start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted August 25, 2023 Report Share Posted August 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, DazS said: oh so they new the wild fires were going to start. No, they knew from weather reports that storms were coming, and it is advisable to turn off electric equipment or it might cause a wildfire Try and educate yourself before posting. It helps. Not that much can help you out of your conspiracy trap now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazS Posted August 25, 2023 Report Share Posted August 25, 2023 ohh your not saying they left them on on purpose do you. you conspiracy nut job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted August 25, 2023 Report Share Posted August 25, 2023 Not very good at this debating lark But seem to like videos by the guy who inspired right wing nutcase Anders Breivik. Which most people might think is a little on the strange sideof life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazS Posted August 25, 2023 Report Share Posted August 25, 2023 how do you debate some one who keeps changing the topic. you never answer a question, ill see what you come back with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted August 25, 2023 Report Share Posted August 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, DazS said: how do you debate some one who keeps changing the topic. you never answer a question, ill see what you come back with. Showing yourself up is your hobby I answered your question. You didn't like the answer and replied with what you thought was a real clever clogs answer. It turns out, it was a bit of a stupid answer, and i told you why and now you are throwing toys out of the pram left, right and centre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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