Redcar v Edinburgh. 11/08/2023. 7.30 pm

[Nickinho]

On 8/13/2023 at 5:28 PM, Cast1rn said:

Nathan was deliberately used to allow Poole to have King, Worrall and Lawson. He was required to score 0, he never road in heat 8, only had 3 rides and reserve switched from heat 12-9 to give Zach Cook/Ben Cook 2 shots at the opposition's 7. Was complete tactical genius from Poole.

 

Just one problem with your theory: Ablitt did score in most meetings even if it was only 1 or two points. At Armadale he got 3+2 if i remember correctly. Nobody is 'required' to score 0.

[Fromafar]

15 hours ago, Gazc said:

I would rather have you in a Glasgow jacket shouting on Bomber.

Or do you think I took that too far.

  Plus a season ticket.

[Cast1rn]

10 hours ago, Nickinho said:

Just one problem with your theory: Ablitt did score in most meetings even if it was only 1 or two points. At Armadale he got 3+2 if i remember correctly. Nobody is 'required' to score 0.

Apologies, he wasn't "needed to score" any more than zero.

Of his 38 meetings he scored 0, 15 times, 39.47% of his meetings, so your right in the fact he scored in "most"

His total accumulated points in the championship across those 38 meetings was 44 points. 8 of those points were scored when an opposition rider fell,retired or got excluded. 

His rolling average would be around 1.46 for all meetings.

But here's where I'm trying to make my point. He didnt get the opportunity to improve.

He got the chance in heat 8, 6 out of the 38 chances...... 15% ,  which also matched the number of times that he actually got 4 rides.

Again all the nonsense of "apprenticeships" and "giving the youngsters a chance" makes me gag. He was there for one reason and that was to have 7 riders on the declaration sheet. 

Thankfully at Scunthorpe he's now actually getting a chance.

 

*Edit, just double checked from 14 championship meetings this year scored 36 points.

Edited August 15, 2023 by Cast1rn

[Nickinho]

On 8/15/2023 at 11:45 PM, Cast1rn said:

 

Thankfully at Scunthorpe he's now actually getting a chance.

 

 

I agree. And i've seen a lot of improvement in him this season too. 

[szkocjasid]

On 8/15/2023 at 11:45 PM, Cast1rn said:

Apologies, he wasn't "needed to score" any more than zero.

Of his 38 meetings he scored 0, 15 times, 39.47% of his meetings, so your right in the fact he scored in "most"

His total accumulated points in the championship across those 38 meetings was 44 points. 8 of those points were scored when an opposition rider fell,retired or got excluded. 

His rolling average would be around 1.46 for all meetings.

But here's where I'm trying to make my point. He didnt get the opportunity to improve.

He got the chance in heat 8, 6 out of the 38 chances...... 15% ,  which also matched the number of times that he actually got 4 rides.

Again all the nonsense of "apprenticeships" and "giving the youngsters a chance" makes me gag. He was there for one reason and that was to have 7 riders on the declaration sheet. 

Thankfully at Scunthorpe he's now actually getting a chance.

 

*Edit, just double checked from 14 championship meetings this year scored 36 points.

Are Scunthorpe actually treating Ablitt any better than Poole though? They use him at number 6, which means zero heat 8s (less than he got at Poole) plus rides against the 1+2 / 3+4 pairing, while Mountain meets a reserve in all 4 programmed rides. I would say Scunthorpe have the exact same attitude to Poole when it comes to "apprenticeships" and "giving the youngsters a chance".

Obviously he's getting 4 rides more often, but that's due to him scoring more points. If he was continuing his Poole form he'd likely only be getting 3 rides each match, same as last year!

Edited August 18, 2023 by szkocjasid

[allthegearbutnaeidea]

5 hours ago, szkocjasid said:

Are Scunthorpe actually treating Ablitt any better than Poole though? They use him at number 6, which means zero heat 8s (less than he got at Poole) plus rides against the 1+2 / 3+4 pairing, while Mountain meets a reserve in all 4 programmed rides. I would say Scunthorpe have the exact same attitude to Poole when it comes to "apprenticeships" and "giving the youngsters a chance".

Obviously he's getting 4 rides more often, but that's due to him scoring more points. If he was continuing his Poole form he'd likely only be getting 3 rides each match, same as last year!

Mountain’s at 2

[szkocjasid]

1 hour ago, allthegearbutnaeidea said:

Mountain’s at 2

Now he is, with Kemp dropping to 7 & getting the easier rides. Ablitt has done very well to improve, but don't believe Scunny have done anything Poole didn't do.

[Barabas]

On 8/13/2023 at 11:03 AM, Macca said:

Didn’t turn out too badly for Dan Bewley, to be fair. 

And I wish your point was even remotely accurate - might’ve meant that we’d actually have won some home meetings this season!! 

You've not won because you've had injuries you should know this hmmm...

[Cast1rn]

21 hours ago, szkocjasid said:

Are Scunthorpe actually treating Ablitt any better than Poole though? They use him at number 6, which means zero heat 8s (less than he got at Poole) plus rides against the 1+2 / 3+4 pairing, while Mountain meets a reserve in all 4 programmed rides. I would say Scunthorpe have the exact same attitude to Poole when it comes to "apprenticeships" and "giving the youngsters a chance".

Obviously he's getting 4 rides more often, but that's due to him scoring more points. If he was continuing his Poole form he'd likely only be getting 3 rides each match, same as last year!

I'm not going to go through all the Scunthorpe stats for his heats, but Poole did reserve switch him in heat 9, so he was getting heat 2 Vs #6/7 heat 4 Vs #7/5 and heat 9 Vs #3/4. His "Poole Form" was manufactured because of the heats he was in against. Now before I end up getting a "Ablitts number 1 fan" tattoo, it was more the BS that went with it with the "developing youth" Nonsense that got under my skin.