mikebv Posted August 14, 2023 Report Share Posted August 14, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Ben91 said: For next season he is having a personalised race suit made for every team so he fits in while guesting. He will also be using a revolutionary colour changing crash helmet so he can ride for both teams in the same meeting. The colour the helmet is when he crosses the line will decide which team he scores his points for in that heat. That sounds utterly and completely ridiculous, and would destroy the sports' much respected, and hard earned, credibility status.. To allow such "contrived, made up nonsense" to happen would suggest that some haven't got a clue as to how to run and organise things... So.... When did you say it was starting.? Edited August 14, 2023 by mikebv 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call me wolfie Posted August 14, 2023 Report Share Posted August 14, 2023 8 hours ago, ouch said: Illegally to boot, so win-win for the cartel. Why illegally? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted August 14, 2023 Report Share Posted August 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Call me wolfie said: Why illegally? Oh dear did you have to rattle his cage again!!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted August 14, 2023 Report Share Posted August 14, 2023 2 hours ago, Call me wolfie said: Why illegally? 010.5 FACILITIES No facility is permitted to replace a rider, who although included in a re- declaration has not made an appearance for that team since being re- declared. This applies to BOTH Becker & Nicholls. This rule is so rarely applied that it’s pointless being there. It’s probably only included to trip a particular team up. So forgetting that that rule wasn’t applied, there is another that needs looking at…… 010.3 TEAM DECLARATIONS In the Premiership and Championship Leagues a rider taken out of a team through injury cannot be re-declared in that team, within 28 days. Wolverhampton re declared their team 06/04/23 to include Scott Nicholls (5.28) for 28 days. (https://britishspeedway.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/p23_issue_3.pdf http://www.wolverhampton-speedway.com/_mobile/news.php?extend.3652) He unfortunately got injured so Wolves asked if they could re declare back to their previous lineup. The cartel said yes (obviously) on 10/04/23 and this meant the could call on a guest with a higher average to replace Luke Becker (https://britishspeedway.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/p23_issue_3.pdf) But….. Belle Vue re declared their team 27/08/21 to include Nikolaj Busk (4.63) for 28 days. ( https://britishspeedway.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/p21_issue_17.pdf https://britishspeedway.co.uk/premiership/aces-make-injury-replacement/) He unfortunately got injured so Aces asked if they could revert back to their previous lineup. The cartel said no (obviously) and The Aces had to see out the 28 day period finding guests to cover his low average rather than Richie Worralls higher (5.32) figure. Bizarrely The Aces were made to find a guest (Simon Lambert) whilst a fit Richie sat on the sidelines as it fell with the 28 day period. (https://speedwayupdates.proboards.com/thread/20448/sheffield-premiership-06-09-2021) The most important thing to remember here is that no one cares and it’s been that lack of care that has seen our wonderful sport die in this country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call me wolfie Posted August 14, 2023 Report Share Posted August 14, 2023 1 hour ago, foreverblue said: Oh dear did you have to rattle his cage again!!! Doesn’t take much does it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call me wolfie Posted August 14, 2023 Report Share Posted August 14, 2023 14 minutes ago, ouch said: 010.5 FACILITIES No facility is permitted to replace a rider, who although included in a re- declaration has not made an appearance for that team since being re- declared. This applies to BOTH Becker & Nicholls. This rule is so rarely applied that it’s pointless being there. It’s probably only included to trip a particular team up. So forgetting that that rule wasn’t applied, there is another that needs looking at…… 010.3 TEAM DECLARATIONS In the Premiership and Championship Leagues a rider taken out of a team through injury cannot be re-declared in that team, within 28 days. Wolverhampton re declared their team 06/04/23 to include Scott Nicholls (5.28) for 28 days. (https://britishspeedway.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/p23_issue_3.pdf http://www.wolverhampton-speedway.com/_mobile/news.php?extend.3652) He unfortunately got injured so Wolves asked if they could re declare back to their previous lineup. The cartel said yes (obviously) on 10/04/23 and this meant the could call on a guest with a higher average to replace Luke Becker (https://britishspeedway.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/p23_issue_3.pdf) But….. Belle Vue re declared their team 27/08/21 to include Nikolaj Busk (4.63) for 28 days. ( https://britishspeedway.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/p21_issue_17.pdf https://britishspeedway.co.uk/premiership/aces-make-injury-replacement/) He unfortunately got injured so Aces asked if they could revert back to their previous lineup. The cartel said no (obviously) and The Aces had to see out the 28 day period finding guests to cover his low average rather than Richie Worralls higher (5.32) figure. Bizarrely The Aces were made to find a guest (Simon Lambert) whilst a fit Richie sat on the sidelines as it fell with the 28 day period. (https://speedwayupdates.proboards.com/thread/20448/sheffield-premiership-06-09-2021) The most important thing to remember here is that no one cares and it’s been that lack of care that has seen our wonderful sport die in this country. But the thing is Scott’s 28 days was cancelled before he rode for us so it just reverted back to r/r for Luke. I’m pretty sure had we already utilised Scott under the 28 day facility it would have been a different story. also important to mention that when Jacob and Freddy got injured in the semi final in 2017 we were refused permission to use Tai as he hadn’t ridden Uk so wasn’t able to appear in the playoffs. However last year BV were given permission to use Lambert under similar circumstances. BV must be members of said cartel then. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted August 14, 2023 Report Share Posted August 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, Call me wolfie said: But the thing is Scott’s 28 days was cancelled before he rode for us so it just reverted back to r/r for Luke. I’m pretty sure had we already utilised Scott under the 28 day facility it would have been a different story. also important to mention that when Jacob and Freddy got injured in the semi final in 2017 we were refused permission to use Tai as he hadn’t ridden Uk so wasn’t able to appear in the playoffs. However last year BV were given permission to use Lambert under similar circumstances. BV must be members of said cartel then. I’m fine with you believing that. Enjoy your speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call me wolfie Posted August 14, 2023 Report Share Posted August 14, 2023 33 minutes ago, ouch said: I’m fine with you believing that. Enjoy your speedway. Next year will look very different for everyone, not just us. Just remembered why I hate Manchester clubs so much, thanks for reminding me. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog Posted August 16, 2023 Report Share Posted August 16, 2023 Whatever Bomber says isn't going to change anything in speedway. If the people in charge didn't want to listen to a World Champion in Woffinden and were happy to see him leave British speedway for Poland, they certainly won't care what Chris has to say! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 On 8/14/2023 at 8:57 AM, Lord Skid said: Probably going to stop racing, and become a Promoter, and show everyone how it should be done, saving British Speedway in the process. Bomber to the rescueeeeeeeee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 19 hours ago, The Dog said: Whatever Bomber says isn't going to change anything in speedway. If the people in charge didn't want to listen to a World Champion in Woffinden and were happy to see him leave British speedway for Poland, they certainly won't care what Chris has to say! Tai is quite blunt though, probably better ways to make a point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 23 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: Tai is quite blunt though, probably better ways to make a point? The best way to make a point is to get to the point generally. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, Ben91 said: The best way to make a point is to get to the point generally. Yes but it depends on who you are dealing with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy cookie returns? Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 If the BSPL don’t like what Bomber has to say they’ll just tell him he doesn’t have to turn up like the thousands of ex supporters who have been given the same advise over the years 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 On 8/17/2023 at 4:56 PM, lisa-colette said: Yes but it depends on who you are dealing with. I don’t think it does. Honesty is always the best policy. If you’re being honest then there’s no need to sugar the pill. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted August 19, 2023 Report Share Posted August 19, 2023 On 8/14/2023 at 7:03 AM, Ben91 said: For next season he is having a personalised race suit made for every team so he fits in while guesting. He will also be using a revolutionary colour changing crash helmet so he can ride for both teams in the same meeting. The colour the helmet is when he crosses the line will decide which team he scores his points for in that heat. Maybe just have one race suit including all clubs logos (shouldn't have a problem fitting them in next year) with "rider for hire" down the outside of each leg? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted August 21, 2023 Report Share Posted August 21, 2023 Well, we're all still waiting... maybe he'll drop a few Bombs tonight Live on Eurosport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSmiler Posted August 21, 2023 Report Share Posted August 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, iainb said: Well, we're all still waiting... maybe he'll drop a few Bombs tonight Live on Eurosport It's in this week's Speedway Star... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted August 21, 2023 Report Share Posted August 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, TheSmiler said: It's in this week's Speedway Star... This coming week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralMelchett Posted August 21, 2023 Report Share Posted August 21, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, iainb said: This coming week? no last week, I just bought a copy today - will post a summary up later - Edited August 21, 2023 by GeneralMelchett 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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