89buttons Posted August 11, 2023 Report Share Posted August 11, 2023 6 hours ago, kelvinht said: Thought Basso partly had a point, the riders were certainly bouncing round bend one bit like a roller coaster - pretty sure that contributed to one of Danyon's falls and Laguta's. Rest of the track seems ok though from my vantage point between bends 1/2 Would like see footage from Kings fall, at the time I thought Klindt was hard on him and didn't leave a lot of room, but king could have shut off rather than run out of track exiting bend 2. Or maybe that just the difference of opinion being a stars fan rather than ippo fan!!! Having stood opposite the exit of the second bend for 30 years now Klindt was 100% over the top on Danny, they were level and Klindt just rode him in the fence left him no racing room whatsoever ever, it’s different if you’re ahead and cut someone’s run off, that’s fair game but when they’re alongside and you just push them into the fence I’m sorry it’s bad form. I think it’s fair to say Danny certainly wasn’t expecting that from nicolai either, he’s usually hard but fair, Danny was very unimpressed when he came round to see if he was ok, lucky he wasn’t seriously injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin bass Posted August 11, 2023 Report Share Posted August 11, 2023 It reminded me a bit of the crash that Mark Loram had which finished his career when Simota left Mark with nowhere to go along the back straight, it may of been a few feet further along the back straight but was still a terrible accident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89buttons Posted August 11, 2023 Report Share Posted August 11, 2023 51 minutes ago, kevin bass said: It reminded me a bit of the crash that Mark Loram had which finished his career when Simota left Mark with nowhere to go along the back straight, it may of been a few feet further along the back straight but was still a terrible accident. My uncle said exactly the same thing at the meeting last night, but yes mark further down the straight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25yearfan Posted August 11, 2023 Report Share Posted August 11, 2023 I thought the ref made the wrong decision in the King crash! Klindt was in front so was entitled to choose his racing line, King (fairplay for the effort) was trying to go through a gap that wasn't there! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted August 11, 2023 Report Share Posted August 11, 2023 Is there footage of the crash. @Gavan said he’s seen it. Where did you see it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon1983 Posted August 11, 2023 Report Share Posted August 11, 2023 25 minutes ago, Phil The Ace said: Is there footage of the crash. @Gavan said he’s seen it. Where did you see it He's probably not seen it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted August 11, 2023 Report Share Posted August 11, 2023 1 hour ago, 89buttons said: My uncle said exactly the same thing at the meeting last night, but yes mark further down the straight I thought it was almost exactly the same place to be honest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89buttons Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 7 hours ago, SPEEDY69 said: I thought it was almost exactly the same place to be honest Mark never hit the air fence that’s all, Danny did catch the last two sections of air fence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89buttons Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 8 hours ago, 25yearfan said: I thought the ref made the wrong decision in the King crash! Klindt was in front so was entitled to choose his racing line, King (fairplay for the effort) was trying to go through a gap that wasn't there! He wasn’t in front Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 Would be good to see the Klindt/King incident as the two non Ipswich fans who have commented on it have suggested that it might not be the open and shut case we have been led to believe. Klindt isn't the type of ruder to fence people but also King doesn't tend to go for gaps which aren't there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 (edited) 52 minutes ago, 89buttons said: Mark never hit the air fence that’s all, Danny did catch the last two sections of air fence Think it was shorter in those days and after his crash they made it longer Edited August 12, 2023 by SPEEDY69 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin bass Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 55 minutes ago, SPEEDY69 said: Think it was shorter in those days and after his crash they made it longer Yeah i seem to recall it was shorter back in the day and didn't run as far outta the corner and on to the back straight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 11 hours ago, 25yearfan said: I thought the ref made the wrong decision in the King crash! Klindt was in front so was entitled to choose his racing line, King (fairplay for the effort) was trying to go through a gap that wasn't there! But his racing line meant contact with Danny which resulted in him going through the fence which is an exclusion for unfair riding I've seen this argued before - if rider A is inches ahead he can choose to take whatever line he wants. It's not the case....... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89buttons Posted August 13, 2023 Report Share Posted August 13, 2023 (edited) On 8/12/2023 at 7:51 AM, Bagpuss said: Would be good to see the Klindt/King incident as the two non Ipswich fans who have commented on it have suggested that it might not be the open and shut case we have been led to believe. Klindt isn't the type of ruder to fence people but also King doesn't tend to go for gaps which aren't there. Have seen king take that wide line from where I stand on exit of second turn a thousand times, he knows Foxhall better than anyone if he’s behind and the gaps closing he backs out, he’s a brave rider and will keep it open when there’s room and when he’s alongside but he’s not stupid and knows when to yield when behind. He definitely wasn’t expecting that from nicolai hence he kept it wound on having got the run and being alongside with room to race which was taken away with zero time to get out of the way and avoid a crash. no bias on my part, if that was an Ipswich rider doing it to an away rider I’d be just as outraged, if anything more outraged as an avid fan, I expect a better level of respect to be shown by my team on the track. just really don’t like seeing people get fenced, hard but fair racing is great entertainment, standing with a lump in throat wondering if a rider 20 metres in front of you strewn out on the stock car track having been sent through two sections of air fence and 3 wooden fence panels is not, that was a big crash and Danny lucky not to be seriously hurt - like others have said was a very similar incident to one that effectively ended mark loram’s career. and of all the people to do it to, Danny one of the fairest riders about not a bad bone in his body. Edited August 13, 2023 by 89buttons 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racin Jason 72 Posted August 13, 2023 Report Share Posted August 13, 2023 Danny’s reaction to klint when he came to check on him was to throw his hands up to gesture why did you do that. klint did apologise and claimed he lifted but I’m not so sure of that. I am sure he didn’t mean to fence Danny but that was the consequence of his riding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted August 13, 2023 Report Share Posted August 13, 2023 18 minutes ago, Racin Jason 72 said: Danny’s reaction to klint when he came to check on him was to throw his hands up to gesture why did you do that. klint did apologise and claimed he lifted but I’m not so sure of that. I am sure he didn’t mean to fence Danny but that was the consequence of his riding. The good old Danish lift Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racin Jason 72 Posted August 13, 2023 Report Share Posted August 13, 2023 1 hour ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: The good old Danish lift Very similar to Claus vissing to Ben barker at Glasgow on Friday night. The Danes definitely were at the preben eriksen training days !!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted August 13, 2023 Report Share Posted August 13, 2023 I think a lot of it may come down to the 80cc racing the Danish kids do,,they learn alot obout blocking and fencing in that due to the lack of power 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25yearfan Posted August 13, 2023 Report Share Posted August 13, 2023 On 8/12/2023 at 11:00 AM, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: But his racing line meant contact with Danny which resulted in him going through the fence which is an exclusion for unfair riding I've seen this argued before - if rider A is inches ahead he can choose to take whatever line he wants. It's not the case....... My post only replicated my instant gut reaction after the incident! - I could be wrong but I've learnt over the years that your gut reaction is normally not far off the truth! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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