justathought Posted August 8, 2023 Report Share Posted August 8, 2023 (edited) On 8/7/2023 at 9:54 PM, Call me wolfie said: Leicester would have won comfortably with Bomber and Batchelor, Cook was as expected. Expand Edited August 8, 2023 by justathought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call me wolfie Posted August 8, 2023 Report Share Posted August 8, 2023 On 8/8/2023 at 7:53 AM, justathought said: Expand Bomber would have equalled or bettered Worrall around Monmore for sure, and Batch would have got more than Cooks solitary point. Cook hasn't been Premiership standard for a number of years and gives up if he doesn't gate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted August 8, 2023 Report Share Posted August 8, 2023 On 8/8/2023 at 11:37 AM, Call me wolfie said: Bomber would have equalled or bettered Worrall around Monmore for sure, and Batch would have got more than Cooks solitary point. Cook hasn't been Premiership standard for a number of years and gives up if he doesn't gate. Expand Are you sure, for sure? Chris Harris at Wolverhampton No. Points Total Mon Apr 10th 2023 Wolverhampton v Belle Vue (PRKO) 5 3, 3, 3 9 (Guest) Mon May 1st 2023 Wolverhampton v Peterborough (PRa) 1 X, 0, 1', 1' 2 +2 (Guest) Mon Jun 26th 2023 Wolverhampton v King's Lynn (PRb) 1 0, 0, 1, 0 1 (Guest) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted August 8, 2023 Report Share Posted August 8, 2023 On 8/7/2023 at 10:34 PM, Beowulf said: Nonsense. I stand directly in line with the starting gate. Heat 15 was one of the best ever starts I have seen. Schlein did not move a consensus shared by the (Wolverhampton) fans around me. Expand 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted August 8, 2023 Report Share Posted August 8, 2023 On 8/7/2023 at 10:04 PM, Fullmax said: So at the end of the meeting do both teams do a lap of honour as the meeting was drawn? Expand Apparently, according to the league tables, Leicester lost. We can't have a fair result i.e. a draw, anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullmax Posted August 8, 2023 Report Share Posted August 8, 2023 On 8/8/2023 at 12:53 PM, False dawn said: Apparently, according to the league tables, Leicester lost. We can't have a fair result i.e. a draw, anymore. Expand Wolves will be ecstatic. That's 2 home wins in a row that they actually didn't win that they won ! So I take it from that , that it is possible to win the Premier League without winning a single meeting all season . Plus you have to love the table , you have to be a genius to understand it ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted August 8, 2023 Report Share Posted August 8, 2023 On 8/8/2023 at 1:05 PM, Fullmax said: Wolves will be ecstatic. That's 2 home wins in a row that they actually didn't win that they won ! So I take it from that , that it is possible to win the Premier League without winning a single meeting all season . Plus you have to love the table , you have to be a genius to understand it ! Expand I thought I was a genius, and I don't understand it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justathought Posted August 8, 2023 Report Share Posted August 8, 2023 On 8/7/2023 at 9:54 PM, Call me wolfie said: Leicester would have won comfortably with Bomber and Batchelor, Cook was as expected. Expand If that's what you believe, fair enough. However, worrall did very well and is a lot better than bomber at Leicester. Cook will improve and get more points than bachelor. But, time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bojangles Posted August 8, 2023 Report Share Posted August 8, 2023 (edited) On 8/8/2023 at 1:05 PM, Fullmax said: Wolves will be ecstatic. That's 2 home wins in a row that they actually didn't win that they won ! So I take it from that , that it is possible to win the Premier League without winning a single meeting all season . Plus you have to love the table , you have to be a genius to understand it ! Expand Still easier to understand than the chaos of the last couple of seasons in my opinion. Different points for different margins of away wins, etc. Had more columns than the Pantheon. Edited August 8, 2023 by Bojangles 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauldoveyspeedway Posted August 8, 2023 Report Share Posted August 8, 2023 On 8/8/2023 at 1:05 PM, Fullmax said: Wolves will be ecstatic. That's 2 home wins in a row that they actually didn't win that they won ! So I take it from that , that it is possible to win the Premier League without winning a single meeting all season . Plus you have to love the table , you have to be a genius to understand it ! Expand Wolves made hard work of it ....Couple of riders didnt perform...always going to be vunerable when a coulple of riders dont ride there home track... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call me wolfie Posted August 8, 2023 Report Share Posted August 8, 2023 On 8/8/2023 at 1:21 PM, justathought said: If that's what you believe, fair enough. However, worrall did very well and is a lot better than bomber at Leicester. Cook will improve and get more points than bachelor. But, time will tell. Expand Couldn't comment on Bomber at Leicester as I've never seen him there but at Monmore is a different story and that was my point. If you're thinking Cook will improve you may be be a little disappointed, it's rather sad really to see what he's become. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauldoveyspeedway Posted August 8, 2023 Report Share Posted August 8, 2023 On 8/8/2023 at 3:34 PM, Call me wolfie said: Couldn't comment on Bomber at Leicester as I've never seen him there but at Monmore is a different story and that was my point. If you're thinking Cook will improve you may be be a little disappointed, it's rather sad really to see what he's become. Expand True ...unreliable im afraid to say ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 On 8/7/2023 at 8:50 PM, Fullmax said: So Wolves win a home meeting that they weren't good enough to win in 15 heats . What's wrong with a draw . Absolutely pathetic yet again . Didn't they do the same against Peterborough a few weeks ago.. Expand On 8/7/2023 at 9:05 PM, lisa-colette said: Still officially a draw though, they just won the superheat. Expand On 8/7/2023 at 9:17 PM, Fullmax said: How can it officially be a draw if they lost ? I'm confused? Expand On 8/7/2023 at 9:43 PM, lisa-colette said: They only lost the superheat not the meeting, they still get a league point for drawing plus also the BP. If you lose a meeting you get zero. Expand On 8/8/2023 at 12:53 PM, False dawn said: Apparently, according to the league tables, Leicester lost. We can't have a fair result i.e. a draw, anymore. Expand The way the league points work, I would say Wolves won (2 points), whilst Leicester drew (1 point). Plus Leicester got the bonus point. Simple right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 On 8/9/2023 at 11:13 PM, szkocjasid said: The way the league points work, I would say Wolves won (2 points), whilst Leicester drew (1 point). Plus Leicester got the bonus point. Simple right? Expand Yes, both teams got 2 points each, so level then. Like a...... . .....DRAW!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 On 8/9/2023 at 11:16 PM, lisa-colette said: Yes, both teams got 2 points each, so level then. Like a...... . .....DRAW!!!!! Expand Only because of the bonus point. In normal circumstances 2 points means a win. So I consider a "winning draw" a win and a "losing draw" a draw. They can't make anything simple sadly 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted August 10, 2023 Report Share Posted August 10, 2023 (edited) On 8/9/2023 at 11:19 PM, szkocjasid said: Only because of the bonus point. In normal circumstances 2 points means a win. So I consider a "winning draw" a win and a "losing draw" a draw. They can't make anything simple sadly Expand at least this win draw was won by actually "winning" a race and not by the virtue of just drawing away from home, like in the past. It's a tricky one, because every "super heat" I have seen has added real excitement to the climax of a meeting... If it can just be re-branded in some way to keep the pedants happy I think they're onto a winner with this one. Edited August 10, 2023 by iainb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted August 10, 2023 Report Share Posted August 10, 2023 On 8/10/2023 at 7:44 AM, iainb said: at least this win draw was won by actually "winning" a race and not by the virtue of just drawing away from home, like in the past. It's a tricky one, because every "super heat" I have seen has added real excitement to the climax of a meeting... If it can just be re-branded in some way to keep the pedants happy I think they're onto a winner with this one. Expand Personally I see no issue with draws & think aren't last heat deciders exciting anyway? But if they want a winner on the night, I'd rather they go whole hog & give 2 points to the superheat winner & 0 to the loser. Just have wins & losses. I don't understand the logic of not wanting draws, but still having draws? Or even 3 points for a win, 0 for a loss. Then 2/1 in the superheat, means 3 points awarded each match, but a proper win is better than a superheat win? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted August 10, 2023 Report Share Posted August 10, 2023 On 8/10/2023 at 8:34 AM, szkocjasid said: Personally I see no issue with draws & think aren't last heat deciders exciting anyway? But if they want a winner on the night, I'd rather they go whole hog & give 2 points to the superheat winner & 0 to the loser. Just have wins & losses. I don't understand the logic of not wanting draws, but still having draws? Or even 3 points for a win, 0 for a loss. Then 2/1 in the superheat, means 3 points awarded each match, but a proper win is better than a superheat win? Expand I agree It's not right that a match going to a superheat generates more points that a 'normal' meeting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted August 10, 2023 Report Share Posted August 10, 2023 (edited) On 8/8/2023 at 1:05 PM, Fullmax said: Wolves will be ecstatic. That's 2 home wins in a row that they actually didn't win that they won ! So I take it from that , that it is possible to win the Premier League without winning a single meeting all season . Plus you have to love the table , you have to be a genius to understand it ! Expand If you need to be a genius to understand it, just imagine how hard it was to produce a 'user friendly' Spreadsheet for it! Edited August 10, 2023 by Gambo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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