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1 hour ago, Sir Sidney said:

It wasn't just the number of passes. I think you can have good racing without passes if the racing is close - but mostly it was just strung out with no interest at all. It's the third time I have been to Poole this year and it has been similar each time. Obviously the locals enjoy winning and that's fair enough, but as a neutral I hope for more

Heat 8 Rowe passed Heeps up

the inside of bend four. 

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2 hours ago, Arthur54 said:

So why do Poole attract big crowds week in week out, must have been more people in the pits last night than some track actual attendance 

Well that’s the attitude why many people dislike Poole fans uk speedway is in the pits but as long as Poole are ok then it’s all good. Give it a couple of years when you’re racing bv, Redcar and Sheffield on repeat see how much you enjoy it then. 

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40 minutes ago, bloom89 said:

Well that’s the attitude why many people dislike Poole fans uk speedway is in the pits but as long as Poole are ok then it’s all good. Give it a couple of years when you’re racing bv, Redcar and Sheffield on repeat see how much you enjoy it then. 

I'd be surprised if Poole were one of the last teams around. 

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15 minutes ago, lisa-colette said:

I'd be surprised if Poole were one of the last teams around. 

Is wimborne road used for anything else?

I know they've said after 2024 they don't know where they'll be, surely with the Fords backing they could buy land and build their own stadium?

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10 minutes ago, Cast1rn said:

Is wimborne road used for anything else?

I know they've said after 2024 they don't know where they'll be, surely with the Fords backing they could buy land and build their own stadium?

Why would any businessman want to do that with the sport in its current state ?

it would take years of good crowds to even come near getting your investment back , assuming you could actually find anywhere suitable to build such a facility in or even near Poole.

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14 minutes ago, Cast1rn said:

Is wimborne road used for anything else?

I know they've said after 2024 they don't know where they'll be, surely with the Fords backing they could buy land and build their own stadium?

Can only think the comment is a joke( and I'm not from Poole or a fan) , if not I bet the Ford's would like to have the money you think they have. Can you imagine land and planning becoming available/viable in the Poole area as well. ( posted exactly the same time as FortyThirtyEight but exactly the same thought) .

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43 minutes ago, Cast1rn said:

Is wimborne road used for anything else?

I know they've said after 2024 they don't know where they'll be, surely with the Fords backing they could buy land and build their own stadium?

Land is painfully expensive, before you even build anything. Especially if there’s any possibility houses could be built on the land.

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This topic seems to have moved away from "we like (or don't like!) Poole, but I've been reading through it with interest.

My opinion is that although there is a certain amount of envy over Poole's lengthy success, one of the reasons why the club is unpopular is the way that some of their supporters (not all of them of course, but a vocal minority) instantly over-react to any form of criticism whether it be about their track, their management or their team manager etc. 

In many ways, Poole are a great example to other clubs, and I certainly don't begrudge them their success which is obviously good for Poole fans, although I feel it isn't good for the sport overall, to have one team dominating all the competitions year after year.

Perhaps if some of the more touchy Poole fans would let the criticism ride over them, and not feel that they must reply to it, things would settle a bit?

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1 hour ago, Fortythirtyeight said:

Why would any businessman want to do that with the sport in its current state ?

it would take years of good crowds to even come near getting your investment back , assuming you could actually find anywhere suitable to build such a facility in or even near Poole.

Once speedway goes under, you sell on the land for no doubt more than you paid for it, leaving just the costs of planning/building the stadium (which I know aren’t cheap)

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My opinion but, sometimes, passing in every race isn’t always all that makes a meeting.

To a newbie it means a lot to see riders going wheel to wheel and swapping positions.. or simply overtaking. That is Speedway in its most simplistic essence and, yes we all love that. In reality, these days, it is a little rarer and, so, is much appreciated when it happens…

However, I like to think there are many more layers to a meeting. For those of us that appreciate the finer points, there is as much excitement on a close scoreline where heat by heat the match can hang on the result of the next four laps.
Last night the Pirates were chasing the bonus point and it was tense to see them real in the 14 point advantage and then to see it snap back and forth once it became within two points!

And, most importantly, the bit that the uninitiated will never see (obviously) is when a lesser rated rider goes on a giant killing expedition such as Anders Rowe leading Sam Masters for 4 laps which kept people on the edge of their seat for the whole of heat 11 .. a huge ovation for his effort adding to the atmosphere but likely to go over the heads of a newbie.

Similar for Ben Cook seeing off Sam (on a tactical) and Scott for three and a half laps before his engine gave way in heat nine. High drama.

The final result (for the bonus point) went to a last heat decider so despite a pretty dominant Pirates’ performance which might otherwise have been regarded ‘one-sided’ there was much to entertain and, even though my team lost out in the last one, I, for one, was entertained.

”yes”, I’d love to see some wheel to wheel action but my heart rate never dropped much throughout!…..

it’s a little bit like that brilliant TV series you tell your friends to watch…. Until they get comfortable with the various characters, they probably don’t get what you see in it …..at first?

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, brianbuck said:

This topic seems to have moved away from "we like (or don't like!) Poole, but I've been reading through it with interest.

My opinion is that although there is a certain amount of envy over Poole's lengthy success, one of the reasons why the club is unpopular is the way that some of their supporters (not all of them of course, but a vocal minority) instantly over-react to any form of criticism whether it be about their track, their management or their team manager etc. 

In many ways, Poole are a great example to other clubs, and I certainly don't begrudge them their success which is obviously good for Poole fans, although I feel it isn't good for the sport overall, to have one team dominating all the competitions year after year.

Perhaps if some of the more touchy Poole fans would let the criticism ride over them, and not feel that they must reply to it, things would settle a bit?

I agree, Poole's success over many seasons & either league is largely down to Mr Ford & his ability to treat his riders like employees & not mates. I*f they are not returning the scores he would like & the team are suffering he's not slow in making a change & most of the time he makes a sound choice. Maybe if more clubs adopted a simular strategy they may find the success that Poole have had for so long 

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3 minutes ago, Technik said:

I agree, Poole's success over many seasons & either league is largely down to Mr Ford & his ability to treat his riders like employees & not mates. I*f they are not returning the scores he would like & the team are suffering he's not slow in making a change & most of the time he makes a sound choice. Maybe if more clubs adopted a simular strategy they may find the success that Poole have had for so long 

Unless your name is Brady Kurtz and then you get numerous chances. 

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36 minutes ago, lisa-colette said:

Tbf I don't really know. Don't really look into BV much. I just remember the 2-4 points he used to get as a no1 and still was in H13, used to wind me right up haha. 

Might have to next year .if we end up with one league !!!

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12 hours ago, lisa-colette said:

Tbf I don't really know. Don't really look into BV much. I just remember the 2-4 points he used to get as a no1 and still was in H13, used to wind me right up haha. 

Scored between 2 & 4, 4 times in his whole career... unless you mean away from home or are getting him mixed up with Todd Kurtz? :D

Brady Kurtz at Poole
 
 
No.
  Points
Total
 
Thu Apr 11th 2019
5
7
+1
 
Fri Apr 19th 2019
5
5
+1
 
Thu May 2nd 2019
5
14
 
 
Mon Jun 17th 2019
5
10
+2
 
Thu Jun 27th 2019
5
6
 
 
Thu Aug 1st 2019
5
10
 
 
Mon Aug 19th 2019
5
9
+1
 
Thu Sep 5th 2019
1
8
+2
 
Thu Sep 12th 2019
1
9
 
 
Mon Sep 16th 2019
1
5
 
 
Thu Sep 26th 2019
1
12
 
 
 
Wed Apr 11th 2018
1
15
 
 
Wed Apr 18th 2018
1
3
+1
 
Wed May 16th 2018
1
7
 
 
Wed May 23rd 2018
1
11
+2
 
Wed Jun 13th 2018
1
7
+1
 
Wed Jun 27th 2018
1
12
+1
 
Wed Jul 4th 2018
1
10
+1
 
Wed Jul 25th 2018
1
12
+2
 
Wed Aug 1st 2018
1
12
 
 
Thu Aug 9th 2018
1
8
 
 
Mon Aug 13th 2018
1
2
+1
 
Wed Aug 22nd 2018
1
12
 
 
Mon Aug 27th 2018
1
5
 
 
Wed Sep 5th 2018
1
5
+1
 
Mon Oct 1st 2018
5
X
0
 
 
 
Wed Mar 29th 2017
3
8
+1
 
Wed Apr 5th 2017
4
13
 
 
Fri Apr 14th 2017
4
12
 
 
Wed Apr 19th 2017
4
13
 
 
Mon May 1st 2017
4
8
 
 
Wed May 10th 2017
4
12
 
 
Wed Jun 7th 2017
4
15
 
 
Wed Jun 21st 2017
4
10
 
 
Mon Jun 26th 2017
1
10
+2
 
Thu Aug 10th 2017
1
5
 
 
Wed Aug 16th 2017
1
10
 
 
Mon Aug 21st 2017
1
12
+2
 
Mon Aug 28th 2017
1
8
+2
 
Wed Aug 30th 2017
1
13
 
 
Mon Sep 11th 2017
1
10
+1
 
 
Wed Mar 16th 2016
2
6
+1
 
Fri Mar 25th 2016
2
5
+2
 
Wed Apr 6th 2016
2
10
+1
 
Wed Apr 20th 2016
2
8
+1
 
Wed May 4th 2016
6
12
+1
 
Mon May 23rd 2016
6
5
 
 
Wed Jun 1st 2016
6
7
+1
 
Wed Jul 13th 2016
4
6
+3
 
Wed Jul 20th 2016
4
7
 
 
Wed Aug 3rd 2016
4
4
+1
 
Thu Aug 4th 2016
4
6
+2
 
Wed Aug 10th 2016
4
11
+3
 
Wed Aug 24th 2016
4
12
+1
 
Thu Sep 1st 2016
4
2
 
 
Wed Sep 7th 2016
4
12
+2
 
Wed Sep 21st 2016
2
7
+1
 
 
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