Bagpuss Posted August 6, 2023 Report Share Posted August 6, 2023 30 minutes ago, foreverblue said: That just shows because of the wording of the rule it was allowed which i think someone said has now been changed. The rule book has so many holes in it and ambiguity its crazy. No wonder a lawyer didnt have any problem getting it allowed but to allow a replacement just for the play offs is wrong and Lambert didnt ride at Ipswich they had a guest . Why is it wrong? He wasn't brought in to strengthen them, but to replace an injured rider. Wouldn't have been signed otherwise. Far more preferable than borrowing a rider from another club. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted August 6, 2023 Report Share Posted August 6, 2023 26 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Having that opinion is one thing. Shoving it repeatedly down everyone's throat on virtually every thread is clearly something far worse! Put him on ignore if you're that bothered. He speaks more sense than the vast majority on here though, and can actually see the issues we have in the UK rather than burying his head in the sand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cast1rn Posted August 6, 2023 Report Share Posted August 6, 2023 16 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: Have you 'reacted' to a lot? Maybe there is a limit in certain amount of time? Haven't been able to for days, it worked briefly then stopped again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc131 Posted August 6, 2023 Report Share Posted August 6, 2023 59 minutes ago, Normski said: Proved the point when he guested for Berwick against Edinburgh 4-1 from 6 rides Exactly and realistically last night only beat very low scoring berwick riders and a non scoring 1 not exactly some 1 I'd want next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted August 6, 2023 Report Share Posted August 6, 2023 40 minutes ago, spin king junior said: For all the whinging about Complin guesting for Poole, there has been very little solution been given, and the majority of solutions given being an absolute load of crap. At the end of the day riders are for the most part paid for points, and at this level it isn't always the best paid job. So if Lee can earn some extra money taking a guest booking, then I can't see the problem? And its hardly something new, guests have always been part and parcel to speedway, a necessary for a dangerous sport where injuries arise. The way I see it is Poole shouldn't be punished for a rider getting injured, so the suggestion that they should have to field a lesser averaged rider because they're at reserve is ludicrous. And if a rider can earn extra money, they should also be allowed to. Cheers for that personally I'd call it constructve discussion. While I appreciate the points you make, for me the integrity of the competition trumps all of that. The Polish Extraliga is the best competition in terms of attendance and the way its run and when riders are injured they use R/R or a junior, no ifs or buts. No borrowing from a rival. Half the trouble with speedway in this country is that its run to appease the riders not the paying customers. Until that changes and the punter is put first and looked after much better the downward spiral will continue. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted August 6, 2023 Report Share Posted August 6, 2023 12 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: Why is it wrong? He wasn't brought in to strengthen them, but to replace an injured rider. Wouldn't have been signed otherwise. Far more preferable than borrowing a rider from another club. I dont agree , bring a rider in late in the season but not just for the play offs, i doubt Lambert would have done that, he just wanted the big bucks for riding in the play offs and then to say he may be tempted back to ride in the ok was ridiculous, i certainly didnt believe that would happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted August 6, 2023 Report Share Posted August 6, 2023 43 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Having that opinion is one thing. Shoving it repeatedly down everyone's throat on virtually every thread is clearly something far worse! The irony of that from a Poole fan... The thread busters..... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted August 6, 2023 Report Share Posted August 6, 2023 12 minutes ago, foreverblue said: I dont agree , bring a rider in late in the season but not just for the play offs, i doubt Lambert would have done that, he just wanted the big bucks for riding in the play offs and then to say he may be tempted back to ride in the ok was ridiculous, i certainly didnt believe that would happen. But there wasn't a vacancy until the Play Offs, and there wouldn't have been one at all had Fricke not got injured in Poland! It was a situation which only came about because of his crash. It wasn't a move to try and make BV stronger for the Play Offs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king junior Posted August 6, 2023 Report Share Posted August 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: Cheers for that personally I'd call it constructve discussion. While I appreciate the points you make, for me the integrity of the competition trumps all of that. The Polish Extraliga is the best competition in terms of attendance and the way its run and when riders are injured they use R/R or a junior, no ifs or buts. No borrowing from a rival. Half the trouble with speedway in this country is that its run to appease the riders not the paying customers. Until that changes and the punter is put first and looked after much better the downward spiral will continue. Well there's your first problem. You're comparing 2 completely different levels of sport, which is completely unfair. The Ektraliga is the most professionally run league of the speedway world, because its the best paid speedway league in the world and the best attended speedway league in the world. For them racing in one league pays well enough for that to be their full time job. For a good amount of Biritish riders its either racing in multiple leagues or having it as a part time job. And these riders are massively important in the current state of speedway, there's less riders to go around so obviously the sport needs to give them some incentive to keep racing. If you keep giving less, then dont expect riders to show up and put their lives on the line. I agree to an extent guests do need to be used less, the situation with Kennett was a farce last season, but Poole using Complin is no different to whats been happening for at the very least the last 2 decades of the sport running and is far down the list of things the sport needs to fix. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted August 6, 2023 Report Share Posted August 6, 2023 31 minutes ago, Cast1rn said: Haven't been able to for days, it worked briefly then stopped again. Oh okay. Does it do the same on a different device? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted August 6, 2023 Report Share Posted August 6, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, foreverblue said: I dont agree , bring a rider in late in the season but not just for the play offs, i doubt Lambert would have done that, he just wanted the big bucks for riding in the play offs and then to say he may be tempted back to ride in the ok was ridiculous, i certainly didnt believe that would happen. Did we not just bring Hancock in for the playoffs in 2013 Similar to BV as Chris Holder was injured. Edited August 6, 2023 by lisa-colette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted August 6, 2023 Report Share Posted August 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, spin king junior said: Well there's your first problem. You're comparing 2 completely different levels of sport, which is completely unfair. The Ektraliga is the most professionally run league of the speedway world, because its the best paid speedway league in the world and the best attended speedway league in the world. For them racing in one league pays well enough for that to be their full time job. For a good amount of Biritish riders its either racing in multiple leagues or having it as a part time job. And these riders are massively important in the current state of speedway, there's less riders to go around so obviously the sport needs to give them some incentive to keep racing. If you keep giving less, then dont expect riders to show up and put their lives on the line. I agree to an extent guests do need to be used less, the situation with Kennett was a farce last season, but Poole using Complin is no different to whats been happening for at the very least the last 2 decades of the sport running and is far down the list of things the sport needs to fix. I wonder if part of the reason its so well attended and paid is because its so professionally run? Speedway in the UK has got worse and worse over the last two decades so I wonder if its linked to guests, doubling up, etc? I know people who don't go any more because they can't identify with their club as most of the riders race elsewhere in the UK as well. I'd disagree about it llbeing down the lost, its just as important as many other issues such as fixtures, tracks, admission fees etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted August 6, 2023 Report Share Posted August 6, 2023 12 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: Did we not just bring Hancock in for the playoffs in 2013 Similar to BV as Chris Holder was injured. Greg came in late July i think, way before the playoffs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted August 6, 2023 Report Share Posted August 6, 2023 8 minutes ago, Arthur54 said: Greg came in late July i think, way before the playoffs Indeed. And riders don't decide when to get injured, it just happens. Signing riders to replace the long term injured is the best way to fill the hole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 6, 2023 Report Share Posted August 6, 2023 What have many of the Posts got too with Bandits vPoole.Start another topic. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted August 6, 2023 Report Share Posted August 6, 2023 26 minutes ago, Arthur54 said: Greg came in late July i think, way before the playoffs 5th August was his first home meeting. Earlier than I remember! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted August 6, 2023 Report Share Posted August 6, 2023 40 minutes ago, Fromafar said: What have many of the Posts got too with Bandits vPoole.Start another topic. Threads develop, that's how the forum works. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted August 6, 2023 Report Share Posted August 6, 2023 1 hour ago, mikebv said: The irony of that from a Poole fan... The thread busters..... But this is a Poole thread. Nothing to do with Prem play offs or Polish Extraliga. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted August 6, 2023 Report Share Posted August 6, 2023 1 hour ago, lisa-colette said: Did we not just bring Hancock in for the playoffs in 2013 Similar to BV as Chris Holder was injured. Not just for the play-offs was it. Signed at end July. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted August 6, 2023 Report Share Posted August 6, 2023 25 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: But this is a Poole thread. Nothing to do with Prem play offs or Polish Extraliga. But everything to do with guests from rival teams. The discussion has developed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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