bigcatdiary Posted July 23, 2023 Report Share Posted July 23, 2023 21 minutes ago, Crump99 said: In years gone by it would have been savable but these are different times with different mentality. The grassed areas will be like a bog so where was the parking for this. Also, the increased activity & traffic of Eurosport tomorrow would be more than problematic looking at the forecast so I'd have to say that they've called this right. In years gone by we had a racetrack that didn’t contain a significant amount of clay, unfortunately that isn’t the case now. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Bratley Posted July 23, 2023 Report Share Posted July 23, 2023 I am not surprised the meeting is off following the rain all day yesterday. Even if the track was managed to be salvaged there would be nowhere to park as the hard standing area of parking at the Showground is being currently used for vehicle parking and maintenance for an as yet unapproved retrospective planning application venture and furthermore the Showground custodians haven’t bothered to cut the grass in the surrounding fields (where people would normally park) for weeks and in places the grass and weeds are about three foot high and obviously now hold a lot of water. It has the look and feel of an area that is being deliberately run into the ground. I have made my observations to our local councillor. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted July 23, 2023 Report Share Posted July 23, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mick Bratley said: I am not surprised the meeting is off following the rain all day yesterday. Even if the track was managed to be salvaged there would be nowhere to park as the hard standing area of parking at the Showground is being currently used for vehicle parking and maintenance for an as yet unapproved retrospective planning application venture and furthermore the Showground custodians haven’t bothered to cut the grass in the surrounding fields (where people would normally park) for weeks and in places the grass and weeds are about three foot high and obviously now hold a lot of water. It has the look and feel of an area that is being deliberately run into the ground. I have made my observations to our local councillor. Said the same a few months ago. The place is increasingly looking like run down dump (Classic developers tactics as Kevin Bridges would say). When ST holders complained about parking in the main car park my mate was told by CJ that the new intention was to park them next to the riders gate on the grassed area that used to be a regular car park. However, that needed significant work to return it to a parking area fit for supporters but who was going to do that? AEPG wouldn't be interested and I couldn't see the club doing it. It's a difficult one but I don't know where we go with that? You'll know more than most about our excellent working relationship with the EoES administrators. Does the stadium rental include parking provision for spectators? If so, can they be pulled up on H&S grounds for providing an unsafe parking area? Edited July 23, 2023 by Crump99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted July 23, 2023 Report Share Posted July 23, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Mick Bratley said: I am not surprised the meeting is off following the rain all day yesterday. Even if the track was managed to be salvaged there would be nowhere to park as the hard standing area of parking at the Showground is being currently used for vehicle parking and maintenance for an as yet unapproved retrospective planning application venture and furthermore the Showground custodians haven’t bothered to cut the grass in the surrounding fields (where people would normally park) for weeks and in places the grass and weeds are about three foot high and obviously now hold a lot of water. It has the look and feel of an area that is being deliberately run into the ground. I have made my observations to our local councillor. Do you or anyone else know who is using the hard standing to park their vehicles ? Edited July 23, 2023 by Bald Bloke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted July 24, 2023 Report Share Posted July 24, 2023 7 hours ago, Bald Bloke said: Do you or anyone else know who is using the hard standing to park their vehicles ? https://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/news/people/mp-vows-to-support-residents-in-fight-to-stop-car-transporters-using-their-streets-to-access-east-of-england-showground-4127268 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeW436 Posted July 24, 2023 Report Share Posted July 24, 2023 17 hours ago, JoeW436 said: What a joke I’ll retract this regarding the meeting, it’s hammering down in Peterborough. However the overall situation at both clubs remains a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byker Biker Posted July 24, 2023 Report Share Posted July 24, 2023 22 minutes ago, JoeW436 said: I’ll retract this regarding the meeting, it’s hammering down in Peterborough. However the overall situation at both clubs remains a joke. About time someone had the decency to take back a negative comment when the facts emerge, hopefully you've set an example for the other consistently negative posters to follow, we'll done. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted July 24, 2023 Report Share Posted July 24, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, JoeW436 said: I’ll retract this regarding the meeting, it’s hammering down in Peterborough. However the overall situation at both clubs remains a joke. Fair play, I doubt we will see the "others" doing so. Edited July 24, 2023 by Bald Bloke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted July 24, 2023 Report Share Posted July 24, 2023 2 hours ago, JoeW436 said: I’ll retract this regarding the meeting, it’s hammering down in Peterborough. However the overall situation at both clubs remains a joke. Without doubt the correct decision, especially for a TV meeting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 24, 2023 Report Share Posted July 24, 2023 44 minutes ago, NeilWatson said: Without doubt the correct decision, especially for a TV meeting Why especially for a TV meeting? Surely the same criteria should apply whether it's on TV or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted July 24, 2023 Report Share Posted July 24, 2023 2 hours ago, iainb said: Why especially for a TV meeting? Surely the same criteria should apply whether it's on TV or not Of course not. For a non-broadcast meeting a Promoter might delay a decision (perhaps overnight) to see if the weather and conditions improve. A TV meeting incurs a great deal of cost for the broadcaster, much of which can be mitigated with an early postponement. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted July 24, 2023 Report Share Posted July 24, 2023 1 minute ago, NeilWatson said: Of course not. For a non-broadcast meeting a Promoter might delay a decision (perhaps overnight) to see if the weather and conditions improve. A TV meeting incurs a great deal of cost for the broadcaster, much of which can be mitigated with an early postponement. And of course the same man will be paying 14 riders had the meeting gone ahead tonight and took a big financial hit on the attendance- so makes perfect common sense financially to call it off . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarBoy Posted July 24, 2023 Report Share Posted July 24, 2023 27 minutes ago, Haza said: And of course the same man will be paying 14 riders had the meeting gone ahead tonight and took a big financial hit on the attendance- so makes perfect common sense financially to call it off . There's going to come a point in time though when he is going to have to pay it. Financially I would say it makes more sense to pay from Peterborough's gate receipts opposed to Lynn's as they seem to achieve higher attendances. For instance, on Thursday. I cannot see that being a big turnout (unless I'm proven wrong) but he's going to have to stump up for it then, weather permitting of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 24, 2023 Report Share Posted July 24, 2023 56 minutes ago, NeilWatson said: Of course not. For a non-broadcast meeting a Promoter might delay a decision (perhaps overnight) to see if the weather and conditions improve. A TV meeting incurs a great deal of cost for the broadcaster, much of which can be mitigated with an early postponement. 52 minutes ago, Haza said: And of course the same man will be paying 14 riders had the meeting gone ahead tonight and took a big financial hit on the attendance- so makes perfect common sense financially to call it off . Undoubtedly the correct decision... there should not be special treatment for TV matches though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted July 24, 2023 Report Share Posted July 24, 2023 32 minutes ago, StarBoy said: There's going to come a point in time though when he is going to have to pay it. Financially I would say it makes more sense to pay from Peterborough's gate receipts opposed to Lynn's as they seem to achieve higher attendances. For instance, on Thursday. I cannot see that being a big turnout (unless I'm proven wrong) but he's going to have to stump up for it then, weather permitting of course. Absolutely you are correct- but least when it’s re arranged it not be on tv I wouldn’t have thought so attendance should be higher- also a double whammy two meetings in 3days to pay riders for - so can see why it’s been called off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarBoy Posted July 24, 2023 Report Share Posted July 24, 2023 12 minutes ago, Haza said: Absolutely you are correct- but least when it’s re arranged it not be on tv I wouldn’t have thought so attendance should be higher- also a double whammy two meetings in 3days to pay riders for - so can see why it’s been called off I think the decision to call it off might have been a bit hasty though. Don't know what the weatger is like in Peterborough, but in Lynn it hasn't rained since around 12 and is dry, sunny and breezy now, perfect weather to dry out a track. I remember last year in August I went to a Pboro v Lynn meeting and it absolutely hammered it down all day. The start was delayed until around 8.30 as they were working on the track, turned out to be a good meeting in the end... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Bratley Posted July 24, 2023 Report Share Posted July 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, StarBoy said: I think the decision to call it off might have been a bit hasty though. Don't know what the weatger is like in Peterborough, but in Lynn it hasn't rained since around 12 and is dry, sunny and breezy now, perfect weather to dry out a track. I remember last year in August I went to a Pboro v Lynn meeting and it absolutely hammered it down all day. The start was delayed until around 8.30 as they were working on the track, turned out to be a good meeting in the end... I’m 400 metres from the track it has rained continuously from 11pm Sunday until about midday today. It chucked it down again at 4pm for over an hour. Given it rained all day on Saturday as well, I would say the correct decision was made. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted July 24, 2023 Report Share Posted July 24, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Mick Bratley said: I’m 400 metres from the track it has rained continuously from 11pm Sunday until about midday today. It chucked it down again at 4pm for over an hour. Given it rained all day on Saturday as well, I would say the correct decision was made. Well that's cleared that up.. Not forgetting the saturated grass parking. Edited July 24, 2023 by Bald Bloke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarBoy Posted July 24, 2023 Report Share Posted July 24, 2023 31 minutes ago, Mick Bratley said: I’m 400 metres from the track it has rained continuously from 11pm Sunday until about midday today. It chucked it down again at 4pm for over an hour. Given it rained all day on Saturday as well, I would say the correct decision was made. Fair enough. As I said, can only base it on weather I've experienced here in Lynn. Thank you for clearing it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted July 24, 2023 Report Share Posted July 24, 2023 1 hour ago, iainb said: Undoubtedly the correct decision... there should not be special treatment for TV matches though Letting a broadcaster waste a large sum of money preparing for a meeting that is unlikely to go ahead doesn’t help any contract renewal discussions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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