E I Addio Posted July 25, 2023 Report Share Posted July 25, 2023 15 hours ago, Triple.H. said: Wasn't it the late Jon Cook that suggested the losing team could pick any two gates, so pick one and four, two and three etc. That could open a can of worms. 3 hours ago, Paulco said: They did that in the KO Cup one year , just looked weird There was a time, years ago when a team six or more points behind would not only have choice of gates but there there was no rule to say which rider had the inner of his teams gates. Usually the heatleader chose. It only failed to work in the KO cup at Jon Cooks suggestion because riders never pay much attention to rule changes or take much notice of the score line and were still going out to their programmed gates when they could have had a choice. The idea of gates being prepared for the home team is over stated. Professional riders visiting the same tracks every season get to know the track prep and often would have ridden in the past that they now come to as a visitor. Riders talk and most of them are using more or less the same set ups anyway. It’s goes on to a point but probably not as much as people think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisa-colette Posted July 25, 2023 Report Share Posted July 25, 2023 36 minutes ago, Gavan said: This has been done to death Of course Poole can do what they like with the starts it’s home advantage and Poole have a team of gaters so they will prepare the starts to help them simple as And yes in the days of Loram and Nicholls do you honestly think Poole prepared the starts like they do now and enable visitors like Hancock for example to fly out the starts …. Of course not Poole have a team of gaters they will not prepare the starts or the track in a way that will help opponents hence no passing at Poole Its not rocket science There is passing at Poole, not much as Redcar, Glasgow or Scunny. But there is. Actually Ben Barker showed how it was with Plymouth. TJ passed when quarter of a lap behind after first half lap. Quite a few passes are happening on the 4th bend whether it be round the outside or a cutback (Ben Cook good at the cutback). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cast1rn Posted July 25, 2023 Report Share Posted July 25, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, lisa-colette said: There is passing at Poole, not much as Redcar, Glasgow or Scunny. But there is. Actually Ben Barker showed how it was with Plymouth. TJ passed when quarter of a lap behind after first half lap. Quite a few passes are happening on the 4th bend whether it be round the outside or a cutback (Ben Cook good at the cutback). Or Edinburgh or Berwick or Birmingham. (Just didn't want any of the other clubs that have more passing feeling left out.) Edited July 25, 2023 by Cast1rn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted July 25, 2023 Report Share Posted July 25, 2023 5 pages of nonsense 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cast1rn Posted July 25, 2023 Report Share Posted July 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Arthur54 said: 5 pages of nonsense Keep posting and it'll become "six pages of nonsense" 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike0310 Posted July 25, 2023 Report Share Posted July 25, 2023 I don’t see what the problem is Poole can do what they want it’s there track, just like any other team can do what they want to there track it seems if there is some sour grapes just because there successful.at the end of the day we are all playing catch up and some people don’t like it and will moan about anything to do with the pirates. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Tsunami Posted July 26, 2023 Report Share Posted July 26, 2023 I agree that each home team produces a start gate that the home team prefer, but it is definitely a NoNo to prepair selected gates during the meeting to suit the home team. If there is differences in gates during a meeting, then both teams get an equal chance of using them every other race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzac Posted July 26, 2023 Report Share Posted July 26, 2023 Make the coin toss at the start of the meeting be for gate choice, track grade before heat 15, then the managers do another coin toss for gates only add a minute to the meeting run time and should eliminate gate prep fixing, or a 50/50 gamble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barabas Posted July 26, 2023 Report Share Posted July 26, 2023 Teams doctoring tracks for home processional five ones is the reason the sport is on its arse absolute barnstorming stupidity of the highest order just so you can gate & go ooooft ...see when the sport is dead & the clock is ticking now count your trophies & relive those great days of crap racing & shiny silverware hmmmm.... the penny will drop later but sadly for most it never will only when it's too late 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSL84 Posted July 26, 2023 Report Share Posted July 26, 2023 This is getting so stupid with this talking about Poole doctoring the start gates? Nothing is done through the meeting what's so ever. gates one to four are the same team's both team's. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisa-colette Posted July 26, 2023 Report Share Posted July 26, 2023 11 minutes ago, Cabbageman said: Teams doctoring tracks for home processional five ones is the reason the sport is on its arse absolute barnstorming stupidity of the highest order just so you can gate & go ooooft ...see when the sport is dead & the clock is ticking now count your trophies & relive those great days of crap racing & shiny silverware hmmmm.... the penny will drop later but sadly for most it never will only when it's too late Ooooh jealous much! If you ask nicely maybe Poole will loan you a trophy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisa-colette Posted July 26, 2023 Report Share Posted July 26, 2023 Just now, SSL84 said: This is getting so stupid with this talking about Poole doctoring the start gates? Nothing is done through the meeting what's so ever. gates one to four are the same team's both team's. Yeah and Lawson said on podcast that Poole riders didn't request anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted July 26, 2023 Report Share Posted July 26, 2023 8 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: Yeah and Lawson said on podcast that Poole riders didn't request anything. Not even conditioner in the showers !!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyretrax Posted July 26, 2023 Report Share Posted July 26, 2023 36 minutes ago, Triple.H. said: Not even conditioner in the showers !!!! He's had his hair cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j2ohh Posted July 27, 2023 Report Share Posted July 27, 2023 it all depends on the toss of a coin . the toss of the mic man and if the away team wins the toss . IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barabas Posted July 27, 2023 Report Share Posted July 27, 2023 Lisa collette I knew you wouldn't get my post as you don't have the brains for it ... as I mentioned on my post sadly some just don't get it that is you...maybe when you have no track if you & the pirates team ask nicely maybe you can race at a real racing track ashfield as glasgow own theirs unlike Poole...see bragging 2 can play at that game but the thing is its not nice is it Lisa hmmm....again I'll wait for the penny to drop I know it will be a long wait Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisa-colette Posted July 27, 2023 Report Share Posted July 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, Cabbageman said: Lisa collette I knew you wouldn't get my post as you don't have the brains for it ... as I mentioned on my post sadly some just don't get it that is you...maybe when you have no track if you & the pirates team ask nicely maybe you can race at a real racing track ashfield as glasgow own theirs unlike Poole...see bragging 2 can play at that game but the thing is its not nice is it Lisa hmmm....again I'll wait for the penny to drop I know it will be a long wait Thanks for the comedy!! Oh, wasn't much of a race track last week was it. Also who is bragging? You obviously want a trophy, Poole have loads. Seems an ideal solution to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barabas Posted July 27, 2023 Report Share Posted July 27, 2023 Don't compare Wimbore Road to ashfield love your not gonna win that argument no matter how hard you try ... yes glasgow do want trophies we will get there just a matter of time pet ... maybe in a few yrs we will be top dogs & let's hope pirates are still going then eh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 (edited) Perhaps reverting to a concrete starting area would remove any "manipulation" and all the "digging" and "time wasting" prior to race? Edited July 28, 2023 by steve roberts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toady Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 1 hour ago, steve roberts said: Perhaps reverting to a concrete starting area would remove any "manipulation" and all the "digging" and "time wasting" prior to race? Surely concrete starting gates are a huge safety hazard. Why on earth bring back something very dangerous? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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