RideHard Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 Easy to see where the meeting was won and lost, Holder and Musielak 1 point dropped each. good to see a big crowd was talking to a lad who’s only started coming this year he loves it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlieboy Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 Good meeting with some top racing. All the Sheffield riders played their part in the victory. Belle vue taking the early lead made it very interesting throughout the meeting but the big guns did their jobs in the latter stages. Good to see some new fans near us saying they had enjoyed the meeting and were coming back next week 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 12 hours ago, Bagpuss said: This might be an unpopular opinion but would it be fair to say that Bewley has been a little disappointing in an Aces racesuit this year bearing in mind his accomplishments in the GP's and Extraliga/Elitserien? Totally agree he has been disappointing in an Aces jacket considering his form in Poland and the GP,s, i would be surpised if he rode over here next season, i just get the feeling he regrets returning, Max is doing a better job for Leicester. Brady has been our best rider for the past couple of seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 9 hours ago, szkocjasid said: I'm actually surprised I haven't read more about Bewley's poor scoring. I don't think anyone would have expected his average to drop. Maybe because Belle Vue are top of the league, no-one is much concerned about him. Truth be told it only really matters that he's on song come the play-offs. It also hasn't been too long in real terms since he "burst on to the scene", so taking on three leagues now, and the GP's, GB team etc will ve being done whikst still in the "learning curve" part of his career... Maybe the UK was seen as the easier of the three leagues and the focus he gives Poland and the GP's/GB, isn't quite the same? Not many riders deliver consistent performance across all leagues and formats, and those that have, have generally done iit when well established at the highest level for a good few years, eg Doyle, Adams, Hancock.. Let's be honest, Dan won't be under anything like the pressure to perform like he would be in Poland, so I can understand him being a little off the level we would expect over here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve55 Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 Anyone know what caused the 'bust up' between Wright and Brennan in the pits at the end of the meeting? They rode together in heat 14, but I didn't see anything happen on track that would have caused bad feeling between them. Apparently Wright had to be held back as he was very animated and aggressive towards Brennan who looked pretty upset by it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradford Ace Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 These 2 have been at it all season and clearly don’t like each other. Not sure what started it but was told by someone in the pits that Brennan ended it by saying to Wright that from now on when they ride in the same race they ain’t Belle Vue team mates but r riding as individuals against each other!!!! Not good for team morale that!!! Lemon needs to bang their heads together b4 the play offs!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralMelchett Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 38 minutes ago, bellevueace said: Totally agree he has been disappointing in an Aces jacket considering his form in Poland and the GP,s, i would be surpised if he rode over here next season, i just get the feeling he regrets returning, Max is doing a better job for Leicester. Brady has been our best rider for the past couple of seasons. Your best rider last night was Lidsey who hasnt ridden in the UK for a while before this year? It was only a stinker of a gate (off 3) that saw him last in heat 15 in my view 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralMelchett Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Steve55 said: Anyone know what caused the 'bust up' between Wright and Brennan in the pits at the end of the meeting? They rode together in heat 14, but I didn't see anything happen on track that would have caused bad feeling between them. Apparently Wright had to be held back as he was very animated and aggressive towards Brennan who looked pretty upset by it all. This is also what happened at Foxhall which again seemed unwarranted, didn't see it - I actually walked right past Wright as I made my way out from the 3/4 th bend area - he seemed fine! Both were beaten in ht 14 for a 1-5 which resulted in the meeting being lost so maybe related to that - IDK! The race seemed fairly uneventfull really Edited July 21, 2023 by GeneralMelchett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Steve55 said: Anyone know what caused the 'bust up' between Wright and Brennan in the pits at the end of the meeting? They rode together in heat 14, but I didn't see anything happen on track that would have caused bad feeling between them. Apparently Wright had to be held back as he was very animated and aggressive towards Brennan who looked pretty upset by it all. 18 minutes ago, Bradford Ace said: These 2 have been at it all season and clearly don’t like each other. Not sure what started it but was told by someone in the pits that Brennan ended it by saying to Wright that from now on when they ride in the same race they ain’t Belle Vue team mates but r riding as individuals against each other!!!! Not good for team morale that!!! Lemon needs to bang their heads together b4 the play offs!!!! From various comments I've read throughout the season it seems Wright is causing all the aggro. Seems very unprofessional of both to not ride like "teammates" & if true I can't believe Mark Lemon has let it get this far! If Madsen can almost get put into the stands by Zmarzlik, but smile with him afterwards & Vaculik can get clouted by Lindgren but accept his apology, why can't team mates grow up a little & behave like professionals? Edited July 21, 2023 by szkocjasid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, Bradford Ace said: These 2 have been at it all season and clearly don’t like each other. Not sure what started it but was told by someone in the pits that Brennan ended it by saying to Wright that from now on when they ride in the same race they ain’t Belle Vue team mates but r riding as individuals against each other!!!! Not good for team morale that!!! Lemon needs to bang their heads together b4 the play offs!!!! If things are really bad why not move Brennan back to number 2 (forgot he was back at reserve). Although that to me seems like a failure of Lemon to get the best out of riders as manager? I just can't imagine Middlo or Pete Adams allowing something like this to go on at their clubs? Perhaps going a bit over the top here, but if their personal issues are more important than the team (choosing not to ride as teammates) should they (or the guilty party) be getting dropped? Edited July 21, 2023 by szkocjasid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BenMoran Posted July 21, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 Brennan was in Wrights face in the pits at end of Ht14 with a bit of finger wagging too, then his Mrs old man got involved (Cummings from Ohlins shocks) it all looked a bit like spoilt child not getting his way so called on the muscle. Lemon just needs to have a word with them both as doesn’t look good for the club especially when all can see in the pits at Sheffield. Clear the air session and hopefully all good between them both As for Bewley I think he’s in same boat as a Ellis, best kit on the continent and just use what they have left over here, comment from a few in the pits last night was Bewleys kit looked like ‘a bag of spanner’s’ nothing a mechanic can do if he’s been given the bottom of the barrel to work with 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 Wright often looks like he is on the edge of a strop and that he could start an argument in an empty room...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 32 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Wright often looks like he is on the edge of a strop and that he could start an argument in an empty room...... I do like Charles... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny the spud Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 2 hours ago, 4BM said: Brennan was in Wrights face in the pits at end of Ht14 with a bit of finger wagging too, then his Mrs old man got involved (Cummings from Ohlins shocks) it all looked a bit like spoilt child not getting his way so called on the muscle. Lemon just needs to have a word with them both as doesn’t look good for the club especially when all can see in the pits at Sheffield. Clear the air session and hopefully all good between them both As for Bewley I think he’s in same boat as a Ellis, best kit on the continent and just use what they have left over here, comment from a few in the pits last night was Bewleys kit looked like ‘a bag of spanner’s’ nothing a mechanic can do if he’s been given the bottom of the barrel to work with It’s not a question of “best” kit on the continent. It’s “different “ kit over there. The tracks / surfaces / sizes are completely different to the UK. If they brought their Polish/ Danish / Swedish bikes over, they wouldn’t work. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Jonny the spud said: It’s not a question of “best” kit on the continent. It’s “different “ kit over there. The tracks / surfaces / sizes are completely different to the UK. If they brought their Polish/ Danish / Swedish bikes over, they wouldn’t work. Yet Bewley must have brought a bike from Europe over with him for last years British Final, that bike worked lets see how he does in this years British Final, with his English bike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.V 72 Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Jonny the spud said: It’s not a question of “best” kit on the continent. It’s “different “ kit over there. The tracks / surfaces / sizes are completely different to the UK. If they brought their Polish/ Danish / Swedish bikes over, they wouldn’t work. In that case what do all the top boys who do not ride over here ride in the S O N when held at the N S S .Do they all have a British track rocket ship set up for whenever they might ride in Britain. Also what did Lambert ride at short notice at the end of last season for Belle vue, whatever it was it seemed to be set up for a British track and was rather quick.If he can do it at the end of a season Why after more than half the season is Bewley still struggling to find a bike that works on a British track He has scored double figures 4 times from 10 meetings at the N S S Lambert scored 2 x 15 point maximums in his 2 meetings there.Not having a go at anyone would just like to understand why so many top riders can come over for a one off meeting and do very well whilst your lad and Dan have struggled in a good few meetings this season.Plus what is Emil riding first time over here for years and he is killing it. Edited July 21, 2023 by B.V 72 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 9 hours ago, szkocjasid said: If things are really bad why not move Brennan back to number 2. Although that to me seems like a failure of Lemon to get the best out of riders as manager? I just can't imagine Middlo or Pete Adams allowing something like this to go on at their clubs? Perhaps going a bit over the top here, but if their personal issues are more important than the team (choosing not to ride as teammates) should they (or the guilty party) be getting dropped? Brennan is 6th in averages so has to ride at reserve! (although will probably move up again in August) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 5 hours ago, B.V 72 said: In that case what do all the top boys who do not ride over here ride in the S O N when held at the N S S .Do they all have a British track rocket ship set up for whenever they might ride in Britain. Also what did Lambert ride at short notice at the end of last season for Belle vue, whatever it was it seemed to be set up for a British track and was rather quick.If he can do it at the end of a season Why after more than half the season is Bewley still struggling to find a bike that works on a British track He has scored double figures 4 times from 10 meetings at the N S S Lambert scored 2 x 15 point maximums in his 2 meetings there.Not having a go at anyone would just like to understand why so many top riders can come over for a one off meeting and do very well whilst your lad and Dan have struggled in a good few meetings this season.Plus what is Emil riding first time over here for years and he is killing it. Nothing to do with his equipment, just getting beat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 I still cant see why, other than his face doesn't fit, as to why brennan is picked ahead of wright to represent GB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS50 Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, SPEEDY69 said: I still cant see why, other than his face doesn't fit, as to why brennan is picked ahead of wright to represent GB Do they have to include someone under a certain age? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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