mikebv Posted July 19, 2023 Report Share Posted July 19, 2023 4 hours ago, iainb said: You only have to look at the extra "incentives" promoters put on for TV matches to mitigate the fact that it's on TV and there will be long delays for those that attend... in over 20 years of TV coverage... except from the occasional reduction in admission by some clubs, nothing! A two hour advert for your business, and your plan is to make it look to any potential customers out there that you have hardly anyone interested in buying what you sell... An amazing idea... Get it on Dragon's Den or give Lord Sugar a bell... They could tell his Lordship where he has been going wrong all these years... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castrolargh Posted July 19, 2023 Report Share Posted July 19, 2023 Hope Rooboy is ok after his "off" at oxford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted July 19, 2023 Report Share Posted July 19, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, castrolargh said: Hope Rooboy is ok after his "off" at oxford It may well be RR tomorrow night now with Schlein pulling out tonight.The only other options for a guest would be Becker,S.Worrall or Douglas if any are available.Out of those 3 i would go for Worrall. Edited July 19, 2023 by tellboy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 Yep R/R confirmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarBoy Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Bagpuss said: Yep R/R confirmed. Mr Lambert and Mr Klindt will be having busy nights again. 14 rides between the pair of them (assuming Klindt takes a T/S if one is required) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 On 7/19/2023 at 1:21 PM, Ben91 said: While I hope Kings Lynn remain open the attitude of use it or lose it has to be eradicated from Speedway. In any other walk of life it would be seen as emotional blackmail. If you have a business you have to work to ensure customers return, not threaten them with closure if they don’t buy your product. Precisely this. If they have stopped using the product already then they have either stopped caring or began to care less and less. They have to start getting fans to care again with a good product first and foremost. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 21 hours ago, mikebv said: A two hour advert for your business, and your plan is to make it look to any potential customers out there that you have hardly anyone interested in buying what you sell... An amazing idea... Get it on Dragon's Den or give Lord Sugar a bell... They could tell his Lordship where he has been going wrong all these years... The thing that always jars me is when tracks with closed back straights are on TV. Especially when that isn’t explained. It literally looks like nobody can be bothered to go. Speaking of free advertising, what is being on TV worth to clubs? Yes, it is broad exposure on television but if the negatives outweigh the positives then again, with a business head on, it could be time to part ways. Take everything in house with BSN and build a video library that can be streamed as part of the subscription fee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishersGate Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 On 7/19/2023 at 1:53 PM, iainb said: I'd love to go to Peterborough on Monday as I've hardly been this year now Leicester fixtures have often clashed... but after experiencing the televised meeting at Leicester this year I'm just not going to do it, far too much hanging around with absolutely nothing going on. I've said now that even if it's a home match I'm just going to watch it on the TV now. Can't be arsed with the waiting like you said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Ben91 said: The thing that always jars me is when tracks with closed back straights are on TV. Especially when that isn’t explained. It literally looks like nobody can be bothered to go. Speaking of free advertising, what is being on TV worth to clubs? Yes, it is broad exposure on television but if the negatives outweigh the positives then again, with a business head on, it could be time to part ways. Take everything in house with BSN and build a video library that can be streamed as part of the subscription fee. The Aces should close the back straight for a TV meeting and let everyone in the Grandstand for the standing price.. Then fill the back straight with advertising "banners" for their main spnosors.. Wolves, Sheffield and Peterborough should do the same.. And, if not enough sponsors to make it look impactful enough, then Eurosport and Discovery+ should have large advertising banners there.. Two major brands for Speedway to be seen to be attached to.. Given the camera shows the crowd level on the home straight so clearly, particularly at the Aces, then you would want the stand to look as full as possible.. Fill up from the front and leave rows empty at the back for the TV matches.. Unless of course you can fill it!!! A big ask that though for a "play off qualifier"... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 This is the slickest I think I have ever seen here tonight,and the racing is pretty rubbishe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimmo Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 Thoroughly enjoyed last nights meeting, with plenty of passing. What a terrible decision by referee Simon Humphrey-Kent, when Drew Kemp took a spectacular tumble in Heat 4, where the remaining riders expected the red lights to come on, none more so than Nicolai Klindt, who slowed right down, but no lights came on. That could possibly have cost a race win for Klindt, which would have least given King's Lynn, a draw and the chance of victory in the Super heat. But that apart, good racing, and congratulations to both team teams, on good performances from both sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W9 Lion Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 15 hours ago, mikebv said: The Aces should close the back straight for a TV meeting and let everyone in the Grandstand for the standing price.. Then fill the back straight with advertising "banners" for their main spnosors.. Wolves, Sheffield and Peterborough should do the same.. And, if not enough sponsors to make it look impactful enough, then Eurosport and Discovery+ should have large advertising banners there.. Two major brands for Speedway to be seen to be attached to.. Given the camera shows the crowd level on the home straight so clearly, particularly at the Aces, then you would want the stand to look as full as possible.. Fill up from the front and leave rows empty at the back for the TV matches.. Unless of course you can fill it!!! A big ask that though for a "play off qualifier"... All sensible suggestions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teromaafan Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Mimmo said: Thoroughly enjoyed last nights meeting, with plenty of passing. What a terrible decision by referee Simon Humphrey-Kent, when Drew Kemp took a spectacular tumble in Heat 4, where the remaining riders expected the red lights to come on, none more so than Nicolai Klindt, who slowed right down, but no lights came on. That could possibly have cost a race win for Klindt, which would have least given King's Lynn, a draw and the chance of victory in the Super heat. But that apart, good racing, and congratulations to both team teams, on good performances from both sides. Klindt was the only one that slowed down. ‘Play to the whistle’, as they say in football. Lambert struggled early on but was still given 7 rides, which reflects poorly on Lynn’s second strings when it comes to R/R choices. The racing was good and there was some good team riding from both reams. Races can be entertaining without passing. Dread to think what the attendance would have been without the travelling Lions fans. I was shocked to hear the 50/50 prize amount announced as just over £100. I know that can’t be used to gauge crowd size, but the 50/50 payout at Leicester is always about £350. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarBoy Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Mimmo said: Thoroughly enjoyed last nights meeting, with plenty of passing. What a terrible decision by referee Simon Humphrey-Kent, when Drew Kemp took a spectacular tumble in Heat 4, where the remaining riders expected the red lights to come on, none more so than Nicolai Klindt, who slowed right down, but no lights came on. That could possibly have cost a race win for Klindt, which would have least given King's Lynn, a draw and the chance of victory in the Super heat. But that apart, good racing, and congratulations to both team teams, on good performances from both sides. As they in football, play to the whistle. Kemp done well to clear the track to be fair to him. I think the big difference maker was Bomber. When Leicester came in June he scored 2+1, and was erratic to say the least. Last night he rolled back the years on his way to 10+1. Nevertheless, a good meeting all round. At times there was some good racing, which was a positive to see. Also, from what I saw crowd numbers looked slightly up from the last home meeting against Sheffield so that's a big positive too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarBoy Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 Just now, Teromaafan said: Klindt was the only one that slowed down. ‘Play to the whistle’, as they say in football. Lambert struggled early on but was still given 7 rides, which reflects poorly on Lynn’s second strings when it comes to R/R choices. The racing was good and there was some good team riding from both reams. Races can be entertaining without passing. Dread to think what the attendance would have been without the travelling Lions fans. I was shocked to hear the 50/50 prize amount announced as just over £100. I know that can’t be used to gauge crowd size, but the 50/50 payout at Leicester is always about £350. The 50/50 prize amount was a record this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 (edited) Decided to come over for this one to help Buster in his "hour of need" and I must say I thoroughly enjoyed it (we did win though!), there was a sprinkling of passing thanks mainly to Bomber and Lambert but the racing was generally fast and close, which will do me. Not sure about @Mimmo's take on Heat 4 as Kemp seemed to go down on his own for me and got up and cleared the track. Seems to me that a lot of KL fans don't know what they've got, an excellent facility for Speedway, a good race track, not as good as it used to be admittedly, with great viewing from anywhere in the stadium... you're just one rider short of a half decent team, the trouble is that rider is often different from match to match Edited July 21, 2023 by iainb 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarBoy Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 1 minute ago, iainb said: Decided to come over for this one to help Buster in his "hour of need" and I must say I thoroughly enjoyed it (we did win though!), there was a sprinkling of passing thanks mainly to Bomber and Lambert but the racing was generally fast and close, which will do me. Not sure about @Mimmo's take on Heat 4 as Kemp seemed to go down on his own for me and got up and cleared the track. Seems to me that a lot of KL fans don't know what they've got and excellent facility for Speedway, a good race track, not as good as it used to be admittedly, with great viewing from anywhere in the stadium... you're just one rider short of a half decent team, the trouble is that rider is often different from match to match According to programme notes and meeting reports, work is being done in the background to bring in a new face. I hope that they're looking at a prospect from the continent with a view to trying to bed them in for the '24 season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 18 minutes ago, iainb said: Decided to come over for this one to help Buster in his "hour of need" and I must say I thoroughly enjoyed it (we did win though!), there was a sprinkling of passing thanks mainly to Bomber and Lambert but the racing was generally fast and close, which will do me. Not sure about @Mimmo's take on Heat 4 as Kemp seemed to go down on his own for me and got up and cleared the track. Seems to me that a lot of KL fans don't know what they've got, an excellent facility for Speedway, a good race track, not as good as it used to be admittedly, with great viewing from anywhere in the stadium... you're just one rider short of a half decent team, the trouble is that rider is often different from match to match Didn't think the racing was up to much until probably the last 3-4 races,so,so slick as the times suggest.It definitely wasn't fast with the times 2-3 seconds slower than normal.Maybe a track in between last night and a normal night would be ideal.As seen there wasn't an outside line until the very last few heats. On heat 4,imo it should have been re-run for sure,yes Kemp fell on is own but in doing so he hit Rowe and put him slightly off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castrolargh Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, tellboy said: Didn't think the racing was up to much until probably the last 3-4 races,so,so slick as the times suggest.It definitely wasn't fast with the times 2-3 seconds slower than normal.Maybe a track in between last night and a normal night would be ideal.As seen there wasn't an outside line until the very last few heats. On heat 4,imo it should have been re-run for sure,yes Kemp fell on is own but in doing so he hit Rowe and put him slightly off. I think not having that outside line was a blessing to be honest.Usually once the dirt is out wide thats it,flat out round the boards and no other line to use.Whoever gets to the fence first is away and gone. Speaking of fences, Mr Fricke gave Nk a pretty close look at it! I would have put that move on the dirty side of hard racing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, castrolargh said: Speaking of fences, Mr Fricke gave Nk a pretty close look at it! I would have put that move on the dirty side of hard racing. Saw that and it almost looked like Klindt apologised to Fricke after the race! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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