2ndbendbeerhut Posted July 13, 2023 Report Share Posted July 13, 2023 After last night's "outcome" and last year with Ben Barker, we only ever hear about tests when a rider "fails" Apart from these 2 random tests I as wondering how many other drug tests are carried out each year? Could be random 2 riders every meeting? Or maybe track gets visited once a month? Or maybe just once a year? Like I said we have heard now of 2 tests and 2 failures, maybe they not random after all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharpenRake Posted July 13, 2023 Report Share Posted July 13, 2023 13 minutes ago, 2ndbendbeerhut said: After last night's "outcome" and last year with Ben Barker, we only ever hear about tests when a rider "fails" Apart from these 2 random tests I as wondering how many other drug tests are carried out each year? Could be random 2 riders every meeting? Or maybe track gets visited once a month? Or maybe just once a year? Like I said we have heard now of 2 tests and 2 failures, maybe they not random after all? The SCB statement says "Birmingham Rider Nick Morris was one of the four riders randomly selected." Full statement here SCB STATEMENT: NICK MORRIS - Thursday, July 13, 2023 (britishspeedway.co.uk) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 13, 2023 Report Share Posted July 13, 2023 3 hours ago, SharpenRake said: The SCB statement says "Birmingham Rider Nick Morris was one of the four riders randomly selected." Full statement here SCB STATEMENT: NICK MORRIS - Thursday, July 13, 2023 (britishspeedway.co.uk) No sympathy from me I’m afraid.Been around long enough to know the rules. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Skid Posted July 14, 2023 Report Share Posted July 14, 2023 Presumably this is under the control of the UKAD, that way there's no carpets around for these incidents to be swept under, refusing a test should carry a more severe penalty than a positive test, refusal is just a way of trying to wriggle out when caught, no sympathy whatsoever, only exception should be if the rider is blind and cannot read the banned substance list. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 14, 2023 Report Share Posted July 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, Lord Skid said: only exception should be if the rider is blind and cannot read the banned substance list. I'm pretty sure visually impaired athletes also have to abide by a banned substance list, probably provided in Braille... but I take your point 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted July 14, 2023 Report Share Posted July 14, 2023 As it was a refusal we don't know what it is Perhaps someone saw a vodka bottle in his bag Who knows....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted July 14, 2023 Report Share Posted July 14, 2023 Think it's about time the crowd were randomly drug tested 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 14, 2023 Report Share Posted July 14, 2023 25 minutes ago, Baldyman said: Think it's about time the crowd were randomly drug tested Add some Promoters into that category.IMO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TINYS Posted July 14, 2023 Report Share Posted July 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Fromafar said: Add some Promoters into that category.IMO And referee's 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS50 Posted July 14, 2023 Report Share Posted July 14, 2023 6 hours ago, Baldyman said: Think it's about time the crowd were randomly drug tested Knowing the average age of the crowd, probably most of them will be on drugs. Mind you, they will have a doctor's prescription for them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted July 16, 2023 Report Share Posted July 16, 2023 On 7/13/2023 at 5:22 PM, SharpenRake said: The SCB statement says "Birmingham Rider Nick Morris was one of the four riders randomly selected." Full statement here SCB STATEMENT: NICK MORRIS - Thursday, July 13, 2023 (britishspeedway.co.uk) In an effort to be as transparent as possible, I wonder why we only hear about the ones who have failed to complete the process as opposed to those who pass with flying colours? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted July 16, 2023 Report Share Posted July 16, 2023 On 7/14/2023 at 11:57 AM, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: As it was a refusal we don't know what it is i think you're only half right there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitten2502 Posted July 17, 2023 Report Share Posted July 17, 2023 3 hours ago, Najjer said: In an effort to be as transparent as possible, I wonder why we only hear about the ones who have failed to complete the process as opposed to those who pass with flying colours? I would assume because those who pass with flying colours aren’t deemed to have done anything suspect/wrong. It isn’t just a “Speedway” thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted July 17, 2023 Report Share Posted July 17, 2023 9 hours ago, kitten2502 said: I would assume because those who pass with flying colours aren’t deemed to have done anything suspect/wrong. It isn’t just a “Speedway” thing. I’m not saying it is a speedway thing - but the point I’m making is we are quick to judge the ones who done wrong, but why not let us know about the ones who done right aswell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted July 17, 2023 Report Share Posted July 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Najjer said: I’m not saying it is a speedway thing - but the point I’m making is we are quick to judge the ones who done wrong, but why not let us know about the ones who done right aswell? Because we would be deluged with SCB press releases saying rider x tested negative for drugs and rider y has a legal sized engine. Neither of these are newsworthy 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted July 17, 2023 Report Share Posted July 17, 2023 25 minutes ago, arnieg said: Because we would be deluged with SCB press releases saying rider x tested negative for drugs and rider y has a legal sized engine. Neither of these are newsworthy I would be interested to know how many tests are carried out during a season without the need to declare each one individually 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odds On Posted July 17, 2023 Report Share Posted July 17, 2023 failing to take a drugs test is as bad as failing one, end of. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazS Posted July 17, 2023 Report Share Posted July 17, 2023 31 minutes ago, Odds On said: failing to take a drugs test is as bad as failing one, end of. like the covid jab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odds On Posted July 17, 2023 Report Share Posted July 17, 2023 7 minutes ago, DazS said: like the covid jab Totally different. The jab was always an option, drug testing isn't! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazS Posted July 17, 2023 Report Share Posted July 17, 2023 you have 2 options in everything unless you live in a dictatorship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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