kevin bass Posted July 13, 2023 Report Share Posted July 13, 2023 7 minutes ago, GeneralMelchett said: I think more was needed from King and Danyon tonight - Erik needs to be dropped as he clearly isn’t race fit / mixing it! Hume should be beating Bailey at home really, and yet again King went missing later in the meeting, less said about Riss the better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted July 13, 2023 Report Share Posted July 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Steve Shovlar said: Riss needs to quit the season. In other sports he would be stood down. You said that last week, and kind of retracted it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagonshocker Posted July 13, 2023 Report Share Posted July 13, 2023 Ipswich management really are a useless stupid lot aren't they?! It was glaringly obvious numerous changes were needed , apart from one ride Thompson the weakest RS in the Prem, Hume not a number 6 but a 7, Riss totally incapable of not shutting off ....never going to work especially when Rew clearly needs time to develop and King Mr Average and predictably unpredictable! Dreadful balance to the side , probably the worst tail end since Swindon had Lampart Shanes and Wajnecht! Horrible....and any changes will be too late now...even though they still need to be made! I'm angry and I'm not even a Witches supporter! Pathetic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagonshocker Posted July 13, 2023 Report Share Posted July 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Steve Shovlar said: Riss needs to quit the season. In other sports he would be stood down. Incredibly negligent management! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted July 13, 2023 Report Share Posted July 13, 2023 1 minute ago, hagonshocker said: Ipswich management really are a useless stupid lot aren't they?! It was glaringly obvious numerous changes were needed , apart from one ride Thompson the weakest RS in the Prem, Hume not a number 6 but a 7, Riss totally incapable of not shutting off ....never going to work especially when Rew clearly needs time to develop and King Mr Average and predictably unpredictable! Dreadful balance to the side , probably the worst tail end since Swindon had Lampart Shanes and Wajnecht! Horrible....and any changes will be too late now...even though they still need to be made! I'm angry and I'm not even a Witches supporter! Pathetic Watch out Richie. Your jobs in danger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagonshocker Posted July 13, 2023 Report Share Posted July 13, 2023 8 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said: Watch out Richie. Your jobs in danger The mind boggles how he got the job in the first place 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted July 13, 2023 Report Share Posted July 13, 2023 1 minute ago, hagonshocker said: The mind boggles how he got the job in the first place Well i can't argue with that. Louis mate maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralMelchett Posted July 13, 2023 Report Share Posted July 13, 2023 (edited) 55 minutes ago, kevin bass said: Hume should be beating Bailey at home really, and yet again King went missing later in the meeting, less said about Riss the better. no disgareement from me there! I said to a couple of guys sat behind me how I was dreading heats 12 and 14 as based on how the night was going that was the weak spot! People were also a bit too confident about Emil and Doyle getting another 5-1 in heat 15 after they had done in 13 - as it was Kurtz the little rotter leapt out of the gate and stayed in front! Edited July 13, 2023 by GeneralMelchett 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted July 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2023 We got what we deserved …. The team built with a fit Erik and Jack Thomas was ok We then lost both and simply the management decisions have been poor in who they replaced them with King had been said is the third best heat leader in the league is laughable ….. Wolves whole top 5 is better than King as is Belle Vues ….Leicester have Lawson and Harris and Sheffield have Ellis so no King is not the best third heat leader The poor management choices in replacing Riss and Thomas have added extra pressure on Rew and Hume and I think some Ipswich fans expect more from them when really they are shouldering the fact that the team building has been mis managed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted July 13, 2023 Report Share Posted July 13, 2023 11 minutes ago, Gavan said: We got what we deserved …. The team built with a fit Erik and Jack Thomas was ok We then lost both and simply the management decisions have been poor in who they replaced them with King had been said is the third best heat leader in the league is laughable ….. Wolves whole top 5 is better than King as is Belle Vues ….Leicester have Lawson and Harris and Sheffield have Ellis so no King is not the best third heat leader The poor management choices in replacing Riss and Thomas have added extra pressure on Rew and Hume and I think some Ipswich fans expect more from them when really they are shouldering the fact that the team building has been mis managed I think you might of had a drink. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted July 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2023 8 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said: I think you might of had a drink. Hardly I was at the meeting and drove and hour and a half home I thought the initial 1-7 was ok What happened to Thomas and Riss isn’t managements fault To replace them with poor lesser riders as well as letting King carry on and now not replacing Riss is poor management What part of that do you not agree with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted July 13, 2023 Report Share Posted July 13, 2023 13 minutes ago, Gavan said: Hardly I was at the meeting and drove and hour and a half home I thought the initial 1-7 was ok What happened to Thomas and Riss isn’t managements fault To replace them with poor lesser riders as well as letting King carry on and now not replacing Riss is poor management What part of that do you not agree with? King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderman1 Posted July 13, 2023 Report Share Posted July 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Gavan said: We got what we deserved …. The team built with a fit Erik and Jack Thomas was ok We then lost both and simply the management decisions have been poor in who they replaced them with King had been said is the third best heat leader in the league is laughable ….. Wolves whole top 5 is better than King as is Belle Vues ….Leicester have Lawson and Harris and Sheffield have Ellis so no King is not the best third heat leader The poor management choices in replacing Riss and Thomas have added extra pressure on Rew and Hume and I think some Ipswich fans expect more from them when really they are shouldering the fact that the team building has been mis managed Top heavy with averages doing what they are supposed to, Rew was never going to shine at number 4 in his first season,he would struggle at 6 this year,think he needed a year in championship level but that’s a risk ya take with bringing in young or older polish league riders,not as easy as some see, Riss is just bad luck which can happen to any team,will no doubt come good but will be too late in season , does Riss play golf with Richie and Thompson ? Thought someone would have been replaced by Heeps by now, very close one tonite ,aces to smart on track Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy cookie returns? Posted July 14, 2023 Report Share Posted July 14, 2023 The decision to go with the two weakest options to replace Jack Thomas is unforgivable & really should have some explanation as to why those choices were made. It was always going to be a tough first year for Rew although this week he has looked a better rider. Definitely worth keeping & must be in the team next year. He is the type of rider we need young & hungry. King well my own personal opinion he should have been no where near Ipswich in 23. Far to inconsistent & given the amount of time spent at Foxhall his inability to ride it at times in amazing. Time & time again rides the wrong lines that clearly aren’t working & is beaten/passed by riders who he should be showing a clean pair of heels to at home. Riss has been unfortunate with the illness that has struck him, however he should have been replaced by now as clearly isn’t up to it & isn't fit. Hume is a great little rider gives it 100% & gets stuck in unlike some. He has had way to much pressure put on his shoulders because of the Thompson & Riss scenario. Emil & Jason what can you say…….pure class pure entertainment. I’d love to see both or at least one back again next year although let’s be honest the state of the league may dictate that doesn’t happen. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted July 14, 2023 Report Share Posted July 14, 2023 8 hours ago, Gavan said: We got what we deserved …. The team built with a fit Erik and Jack Thomas was ok We then lost both and simply the management decisions have been poor in who they replaced them with King had been said is the third best heat leader in the league is laughable ….. Wolves whole top 5 is better than King as is Belle Vues ….Leicester have Lawson and Harris and Sheffield have Ellis so no King is not the best third heat leader The poor management choices in replacing Riss and Thomas have added extra pressure on Rew and Hume and I think some Ipswich fans expect more from them when really they are shouldering the fact that the team building has been mis managed 2023 all official fixtures (exc bonus)) King is 11th making him not just the best third heat leader but a pretty decent second one. He has a better average than all the Wolves riders bar Masters. So based on actual points scored in real matches King is more than doing his job (and his average is up on last year) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy cookie returns? Posted July 14, 2023 Report Share Posted July 14, 2023 18 minutes ago, arnieg said: 2023 all official fixtures (exc bonus)) King is 11th making him not just the best third heat leader but a pretty decent second one. He has a better average than all the Wolves riders bar Masters. So based on actual points scored in real matches King is more than doing his job (and his average is up on last year) Trouble is he goes missing at key times like last night, and rides lines at Foxhall that are clearly not working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 14, 2023 Report Share Posted July 14, 2023 Full marks to the Ipswich promotion in carrying out the remedial work to the track to get the meeting restarted again, and it looked as though the racing actually improved after the work for those riders that wanted to mix it. Listening to Adam Roynon on the BSN stream it's easy to see how some riders can talk themselves out of wanting to continue, he was doing this even from the commentary box and then when the racing restarted Keynan Rew immediately raced his way past Brady Kurtz. I hope the Sheffield promotion were watching last night on what to do after a rain shower and not just pull the plug and go home! 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruckerroo Posted July 14, 2023 Report Share Posted July 14, 2023 Theres nowt worse than a bloke riding injured and confidence at low ebb, the 2 go together, riss is both of these. Hes not doing himself or the witches any good tbf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin bass Posted July 14, 2023 Report Share Posted July 14, 2023 Riss needs replacing and should of been stood down wks ago, like been said his poor form puts more pressure on Rew and the reserves, would Batch fit for Riss, just asking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralMelchett Posted July 14, 2023 Report Share Posted July 14, 2023 10 hours ago, hagonshocker said: The mind boggles how he got the job in the first place If your mind boggles at that maybe you ain't as clever as you think you are - seriously how many people do you think would seriously have the time committment and dedication to do the job!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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