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Glasgow v Redcar CL 7/7/23 @7-30


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I know was only kidding about Ashton though I hear tigers have spoken to him about joining next season as the boys a dan Bewley in the making fabulous style just like Dan boys gonna go far though thing is I'm told he's actually an Oxford asset at Leicester ?..there will be a few teams after him for next Yr I'm sure of it he's at ashfield in under 21 racing at 15yrs old scored 14+1 at Workington outstanding prospect gonna keep an eye on this young man good at wheelies as well 

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19 minutes ago, Cabbageman said:

I know was only kidding about Ashton though I hear tigers have spoken to him about joining next season as the boys a dan Bewley in the making fabulous style just like Dan boys gonna go far though thing is I'm told he's actually an Oxford asset at Leicester ?..there will be a few teams after him for next Yr I'm sure of it he's at ashfield in under 21 racing at 15yrs old scored 14+1 at Workington outstanding prospect gonna keep an eye on this young man good at wheelies as well 

He can not legally be anyone's asset until he's 16.

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1 hour ago, Cabbageman said:

Someone said vetting Hume in team tigers over the limit wrong if danyon was in then Lee was out for a lower rider no harm there then as a 2 pointer would be better than Lee who is sadly just not good enough...the tigers need to start thinking hard complin has to go not up for debate that is a no brainer & marcin is on a last warning for me & is next to go ...obviously depending who you can get 

Sometimes it is best to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open ones gub and have it confirmed.

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I smell what he's stepping in but maybe put it across in a more discreet manner.

 Glasgow are thought to be too "friendly" with their riders and not ruthless enough. Unlike our friends in the very far south who will drop you for dropping a chain.

This wasn't the case when they dropped Sedgy at the midway point ironically bringing in Marcin, the reality that season Justin wasn't the only weak link.

If there was someone around that was on a 4 I'm convinced he would've already been put in place.

Changing Marcin I can't see it benefiting us greatly, what we going to get? maybe 2 or 3 points more.

I would assume we stick as is, then if there's a two pointer that's blowing the NDL apart throw them in in August once we've hopefully secured the playoffs.

Ashtons name has been thrown about a lot, so I look forward to seeing him a week on Sunday where he'll be up against some seasoned veteran under 21's.

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52 minutes ago, Cast1rn said:

I smell what he's stepping in but maybe put it across in a more discreet manner.

 Glasgow are thought to be too "friendly" with their riders and not ruthless enough. Unlike our friends in the very far south who will drop you for dropping a chain.

This wasn't the case when they dropped Sedgy at the midway point ironically bringing in Marcin, the reality that season Justin wasn't the only weak link.

If there was someone around that was on a 4 I'm convinced he would've already been put in place.

Changing Marcin I can't see it benefiting us greatly, what we going to get? maybe 2 or 3 points more.

I would assume we stick as is, then if there's a two pointer that's blowing the NDL apart throw them in in August once we've hopefully secured the playoffs.

Ashtons name has been thrown about a lot, so I look forward to seeing him a week on Sunday where he'll be up against some seasoned veteran under 21's.

Let's be honest, Glasgow have already secured the play-offs. No matter how good Boughen is going, it would be very risky to run with 2 x 2.00 riders in the ay-offs (of course Pijper may be a 3.5 rider by then but not a "senior" reserve).

You also can't guarantee a replacement will end up being stronger. Nowak was stronger than Sedgmen at home, but far weaker away. Previous to that they dropped James Sarjeant for Mikkel B Andersen who weakened the team!

Using unofficial averages from 2021 Sedgmen (6.24/5.03) dropped for Nowak (7.00/2.55).

Then in 2019 Sarjeant (3.79/3.72) dropped for Andersen (2.32/2.77)

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maybe i would make a better team manager than some ??? Ps it seems I'm not the only cabbage on here calm down folks no need to cry it's ony onions sorry opinions ...last time I checked I'm sure that's what a forum is actually for don't take offence put on your big boy pants if u don't agree heh that's allowed oh & for the snowflakes on here I'm not arrogant or saying my opinion is the only one that counts blah blah ...all I said was Lee & marcin won't win tigers anything and if we brought in say emil breum & tate zitchke then I believe tigers could win title oh if only I was team manager eh ...not to worry back to the snipers who does this cabbage think he is heh heh 

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7 hours ago, szkocjasid said:

 

Using unofficial averages from 2021 Sedgmen (6.24/5.03) dropped for Nowak (7.00/2.55).

 

Marcins only had 3 away meetings in 2021, when he turned up at Armadale he thought it was the training track, and Berwick he couldn't turn the bike :D I think he scored one at Edinburgh and 0 at Berwick and then fairly decently at Poole.

Look at his scoring at both tracks this year, not from reserve, which is why I don't understand the "let's get rid of Marcin" brigade.

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Unless you can get Tarasenko on 5.00 ( which I presume should be the case following the Rew precedent) stick with Marcin - signed on 5, averaging 5, and likely to improve as he continues to acclimatise to British speedway).

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On 7/8/2023 at 6:28 PM, Noelinho said:

The Glasgow promotion were very clear, they didn't want Danyon to leave, and they would love to have him back again. But he didn't fit with the averages.

Not sure if Connor was exactly the same situation, but I personally think it was a good move for him to race somewhere else. Good experience for someone still young in the sport.

Not convinced Connor is doing much better at Redcar than he would have done at Ashfield  this year. Nowak and Vissing seemed too good to pass up on with 5.00 averages.Would  we have a better balanced side with Harris, Nowak, Vissing, Hume, Basso , Bailey and Pijper?  Perhaps but it would be a brave move to release Brennan, though he does seem to have plateaued  this year. 

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13 minutes ago, Beirao said:

Not convinced Connor is doing much better at Redcar than he would have done at Ashfield  this year. Nowak and Vissing seemed too good to pass up on with 5.00 averages.Would  we have a better balanced side with Harris, Nowak, Vissing, Hume, Basso , Bailey and Pijper?  Perhaps but it would be a brave move to release Brennan, though he does seem to have plateaued  this year. 

Think they were gambling on Nowak showing big improvement away from home.

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2 minutes ago, Fromafar said:

Think they were gambling on Nowak showing big improvement away from home.

Outwith the Poole meeting he's been basically scoring his average away from home. If anything, he's not been as good at Ashfield as he was previously.

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29 minutes ago, Beirao said:

Would  we have a better balanced side with Harris, Nowak, Vissing, Hume, Basso , Bailey and Pijper?  Perhaps but it would be a brave move to release Brennan, though he does seem to have plateaued  this year. 

He’s put half a point on his average. He’s had a couple of rough meetings recently, but overall he’s been fantastic.

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Essentially it's Complin who isn't reaching the heights expected. He was a gamble but it seemed like a calculated one bearing in mind his experience, NL scores and a few decent Champ performances last year. 

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44 minutes ago, Cerro said:

Outwith the Poole meeting he's been basically scoring his average away from home. If anything, he's not been as good at Ashfield as he was previously.

Do you not think they we’re expecting more though.Basically he could score his average and only beat 1opposition rider once.Averages don’t always tell the story IMO.

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14 minutes ago, Bagpuss said:

Essentially it's Complin who isn't reaching the heights expected. He was a gamble but it seemed like a calculated one bearing in mind his experience, NL scores and a few decent Champ performances last year. 

Complin was the biggest mistake. IMO

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