King's Lynn Vs Sheffield 06.07.23

[sandking072]

Would anyone have the race times for this meeting please? Thanks in advance.

[StarBoy]

24 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said:

And there you have it - the exact approach that many promoters and the sport generally takes with regard to its customers!

Those no longer attending/attending less regularly but still with an underlying love of the sport are dismissed with disdain when really these need to be listened too constructively 

Instead only happy clapper ar$elickers sycophantically tugging their forlocks submissivally are desired for conversation 

At least we're not asked to put the air fences up, clean toilet etc

[Steve Shovlar]

Just caught up with this meeting on BSN. And people have a pop at the Poole track? 
 

Howarth summed it up perfectly. No one wants to ride in heat 15, regardless of pay, as the track is bad. Got grippier as the meeting went on and was grippy at the start. Howarth said for some unknown reason the track staff worked on the track to make it as grippy as possible (not his exact words) 

It’s clear both Klindt and Laguta just want to get through the meeting unscathed regardless of whether they score or not. The track is dangerous. The whole surface needs taking off and shale put down. For some reason Kings Lynn want to race on clay and the riders are clearly struggling. It’s not those with the biggest gonads don’t have an issue, it’s unsafe as the way bikes are today makes riding them difficult to turn. Seems Kings Lynn want to have a different surface for the sake of it. Not in the best interests of the sport.

[StarBoy]

10 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said:

Just caught up with this meeting on BSN. And people have a pop at the Poole track? 
 

Howarth summed it up perfectly. No one wants to ride in heat 15, regardless of pay, as the track is bad. Got grippier as the meeting went on and was grippy at the start. Howarth said for some unknown reason the track staff worked on the track to make it as grippy as possible (not his exact words) 

It’s clear both Klindt and Laguta just want to get through the meeting unscathed regardless of whether they score or not. The track is dangerous. The whole surface needs taking off and shale put down. For some reason Kings Lynn want to race on clay and the riders are clearly struggling. It’s not those with the biggest gonads don’t have an issue, it’s unsafe as the way bikes are today makes riding them difficult to turn. Seems Kings Lynn want to have a different surface for the sake of it. Not in the best interests of the sport.

King's Lynn want to have a different surface due to stock cars/bangers bringing in the majority of revenue. It's not feasible to rip up the clay and replace it with shale for when there is a speedway meeting or vice versa. From a business perspective the speedway attendances just don't dictate doing this.

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

24 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said:

Just caught up with this meeting on BSN. And people have a pop at the Poole track? 
 

Howarth summed it up perfectly. No one wants to ride in heat 15, regardless of pay, as the track is bad. Got grippier as the meeting went on and was grippy at the start. Howarth said for some unknown reason the track staff worked on the track to make it as grippy as possible (not his exact words) 

It’s clear both Klindt and Laguta just want to get through the meeting unscathed regardless of whether they score or not. The track is dangerous. The whole surface needs taking off and shale put down. For some reason Kings Lynn want to race on clay and the riders are clearly struggling. It’s not those with the biggest gonads don’t have an issue, it’s unsafe as the way bikes are today makes riding them difficult to turn. Seems Kings Lynn want to have a different surface for the sake of it. Not in the best interests of the sport.

 

12 minutes ago, StarBoy said:

King's Lynn want to have a different surface due to stock cars/bangers bringing in the majority of revenue. It's not feasible to rip up the clay and replace it with shale for when there is a speedway meeting or vice versa. From a business perspective the speedway attendances just don't dictate doing this.

Exactly this....

The stocks make the money so call the tune

[Bagpuss]

2 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said:

Just caught up with this meeting on BSN. And people have a pop at the Poole track? 
 

Howarth summed it up perfectly. No one wants to ride in heat 15, regardless of pay, as the track is bad. Got grippier as the meeting went on and was grippy at the start. Howarth said for some unknown reason the track staff worked on the track to make it as grippy as possible (not his exact words) 

It’s clear both Klindt and Laguta just want to get through the meeting unscathed regardless of whether they score or not. The track is dangerous. The whole surface needs taking off and shale put down. For some reason Kings Lynn want to race on clay and the riders are clearly struggling. It’s not those with the biggest gonads don’t have an issue, it’s unsafe as the way bikes are today makes riding them difficult to turn. Seems Kings Lynn want to have a different surface for the sake of it. Not in the best interests of the sport.

All to do with the stocks which make the money. The clay surface won't change while that's the case. The racing on the whole has been crap for years, unless it's uber slick like for the Leicester v Poole meeting in November when people can actually race. 

Can't see things changing unfortunately. Had heard also that the surrounding industrial estate moans when it's dusty, hence the grippiness in the summer months. 

[IainB]

Just watching last night's BSN show... Looked like Ben Barker was very happy to see Ian Brannan on the track walk... he's going to have somebody's eye out with that thing if he's not careful 

Edited July 7, 2023 by iainb

[IainB]

On 7/6/2023 at 10:02 PM, Haza said:

We shouldn’t be under no illusion it’s all about money he doesn’t care about Kings Lynn - as I say I only caught a glimpse of his pit on tv - someone at the meeting might confirm this either way .

 

On 7/6/2023 at 9:57 PM, Haza said:

I thought after Laguta last ride shortly after the camera panned round and Laguta pit was empty. I might be wrong though 

Nope, he was clearly sat in his pit bay on his phone with both bikes in front of him just prior to the heat 14 rerun 

[DazS]

10 hours ago, iainb said:

Just watching last night's BSN show... Looked like Ben Barker was very happy to see Ian Brannan on the track walk... he's going to have somebody's eye out with that thing if he's not careful 

i think he put a sock in his , tracky bottoms, for a laugh, if he didnt ,did he know he would make more money in porn than speedway

[IainB]

Watched this last night while reading the comments on here and as usual it was the usual mix of hysteria, mis-information and negativity.

The track was fine, there were no incidents caused by poor track conditions, you could put Gilkes spill down to inexperience, a great lay down by TJ btw. What Howarth was going on about when complaining about the track I don't know, his manager when interviewed said the track was fine, nobody seemed to be having issues with it. The way he was describing it you could almost imagine he was talking about the Sheffield track, he's been around long enough now that he should be adapting to these type of tracks.

The racing was perfectly fine, there were a few good tussles. There's no doubt the track is not as conducive to good racing as it used to be but it is what it is.

Laguta & Lambert were excellent for the Stars and TJ rode like a Lion in the re-run of 14 and had a pretty decent night before that too.

Lynn's problems stem right back to the start of the season for me and the initial team selection... who in their right mind would have Klindt & KK (KKK?) in the same team, they're both notorious for their yo-yo scoring, KK in the head and K for being a demon gater... or not. To have KK as your "big" star when other clubs were bringing in Bewley, Sayfutdinov, Fricke, Holder, Doyle, Pedersen etc. Lynn were always onto a loser. I think if Laguta had been there from the start the season may have turned out very differently.

The team as it stands currently, Thomson, for me is not PL quality yet, especially in the main body of the team, Klindt, just not reliable enough for consistent points, if he and Thomson and "Big" Ben Barker had scored 10 between them last night all of a sudden it's a 43-47 thriller. 2 points from 3 riders (2 very experienced riders) is just not good enough.

 

Edited July 8, 2023 by iainb