Fromafar Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 2 hours ago, TTT said: I give up, I really do, When our great sport eventually comes to an end the blame will lie fully with the higher ups who make our sport comes across like a circus act. Check this pathetic excuse out. SCB STATEMENT: ARTEM LAGUTA - Tuesday, June 27, 2023 (britishspeedway.co.uk) Thought I saw him eating a pie as he was trailing round in last place in the final heat on Sunday.Silly thing to do considering he had an important match the next day.Maybe he was nobbled.!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 valve Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 2 hours ago, bigcatdiary said: Absolutely nothing the SCB can do about a riders absence if a medical certificate has been issued. Absolutely correct. As was the issuing of a seven day ban which is the long standing rule where a medical certificate has been presented for a none speedway related injury/illness. Whilst folk on this forum have ridiculed the situation, the same people appear not to have made any workable proposals of a better way the matter could or should have been dealt with. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, 1 valve said: Absolutely correct. As was the issuing of a seven day ban which is the long standing rule where a medical certificate has been presented for a none speedway related injury/illness. Whilst folk on this forum have ridiculed the situation, the same people appear not to have made any workable proposals of a better way the matter could or should have been dealt with. How about when signing the rider not stipulating/agreeing to that rider missing some away matches at "small" tracks? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 45 minutes ago, Hawk127 said: If I was a promoter/ owner of a club not caught up in this latest farce, I would be deeply concerned about my clubs future, the credibility of the sport and what the options are going forward. No way would the current set up allow a club to drop down a league so it would almost be a choice between closure or Nora. It beggars belief that those in charge trot out the same garbage and still think that they are professional business people yet they regularly fail to understand the market they operate in,the interest of the paying public but believe that the right thing to placate one and all is to trot out the same deceit which a few conspire to promote week in week out. Not one of those in charge has the balls to come on this or any other forum to defend the decisions or worse still accept reasonable criticism and debate the issues. If as seems likely some clubs are doomed, then protesting when the TV cameras are in town will do no harm as it has reached the point where the punters have nothing to lose apart from the entrance fee. It would be surprising if the likes of Belle Vue and Ipswich are part of this shambolic situation but I guess it depends whether they are under threat or worse if they do not follow the party line. How on earth did we get from regular weekly meetings in a semi competitive league to the as and when meeting arrangements you have today. Rather than give clubs the freedom to promote the sport, all those in charge who are empire builders want to do is, restrict, impede and frustrate the hell out of the decent clubs and the punters. Ran out of likes for the day... Excellent Post. . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Hawk127 said: Not one of those in charge has the balls to come on this or any other forum to defend the decisions or worse still accept reasonable criticism and debate the issues. Back when I was silly enough to pay good money to watch speedway I recall promoters etc were actually banned from posting on this and unofficial fans forums by the Silly Boys Club Seems they still are, not that any of them could defend the indefensible. Edited June 27, 2023 by Star Lady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 30 minutes ago, 1 valve said: Absolutely correct. As was the issuing of a seven day ban which is the long standing rule where a medical certificate has been presented for a none speedway related injury/illness. Whilst folk on this forum have ridiculed the situation, the same people appear not to have made any workable proposals of a better way the matter could or should have been dealt with. A 28 day ban? That would mean it gives Artem plenty of time to recover from what can be a very debilitating illness.. And helps any other rider with such similar non Speedway related issues.. I wonder why that wouldnt be implemented...? Answers on a postcard.. (And it would also help Bomber plan his diary).. Also.. Maybe they could have issued the statement when they got his certificate? Rather than a day later? Anyhow, Let's hope he gets well soon, and gets off his sick bed to turn up for the next KL match at home.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 49 minutes ago, Fromafar said: The sad thing is some people try to defend the way the sport is run. Usually those on here who "wear the club shop" every time they go... Or get in for "free" by putting the air fences up and cleaning the toilets...! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazS Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 9 minutes ago, mikebv said: Or get in for "free" by putting the air fences up and cleaning the toilets...! someone's got to do it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 valve Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 12 minutes ago, mikebv said: A 28 day ban? That would mean it gives Artem plenty of time to recover from what can be a very debilitating illness.. And helps any other rider with such similar non Speedway related issues.. I wonder why that wouldnt be implemented...? Answers on a postcard.. (And it would also help Bomber plan his diary).. Also.. Maybe they could have issued the statement when they got his certificate? Rather than a day later? Anyhow, Let's hope he gets well soon, and gets off his sick bed to turn up for the next KL match at home.... The 7 day ban is quite rightly a statutory rule, rather than one applied arbitrarily. So a rider suffering a none speedway injury/illness has seven days for the problem to go away which in many cases it does. In the case of the none speedway injury/illness lasting longer than the first 7 days then the period would be extended in 7 day increments Making the rule a statutory 28 day ban would (unnecessarily) prevent riders who have fully recovered in (say) 5 days from riding for a further 3 weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy cookie returns? Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 The issue here is that it was well documented last week on here,social media etc that Laguta would be missing from the Lynn line up on Monday. now 24 hours after the event a statement is released which isn’t believable stating that a doctors certificate was produced yesterday. let’s face Laguta was never going to appear at wolves that had been know for a week & the scb was issued this today after being made to look silly with all the where is Artem tweets on live tv last night….. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, 1 valve said: The 7 day ban is quite rightly a statutory rule, rather than one applied arbitrarily. So a rider suffering a none speedway injury/illness has seven days for the problem to go away which in many cases it does. In the case of the none speedway injury/illness lasting longer than the first 7 days then the period would be extended in 7 day increments Making the rule a statutory 28 day ban would (unnecessarily) prevent riders who have fully recovered in (say) 5 days from riding for a further 3 weeks. Indeed it would... But... It would also bring great integrity, and that is something that all the umbrella associations of all sports should pride themselves on having, in both the eyes of fans, media, sponsors and competitors... And something that speedway, in the UK at least, struggles so badly in attaining that so vitally important reputation... Didn't a rider recently serve a several month ban "from all Speedway" when there actually wasn't any? When so many on here predict so accurately what will happen, time and time and time again, it becomes beyond parody.... And that is not a good look for a governing body of anything. .. Edited June 27, 2023 by mikebv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bee Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 39 minutes ago, mikebv said: Usually those on here who "wear the club shop" every time they go... Or get in for "free" by putting the air fences up and cleaning the toilets...! Exactly. And on the next British Speedway Podcast we will no doubt be told that as fans "we just don't understand what it takes to run a speedway club or what goes on behind the scenes or the hard work that goes into it". How about being honest with us and then we might understand. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byker Biker Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 57 minutes ago, Star Lady said: Back when I was silly enough to pay good money to watch speedway I recall promoters etc were actually banned from posting on this and unofficial fans forums by the Silly Boys Club Seems they still are, not that any of them could defend the indefensible. Who by? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff100 Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 Wonder what jack millan and kenny carter who rode with broken legs would have done with a sick belly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 9 minutes ago, Byker Biker said: Who by? Silly Boys Club……read the initials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 1 hour ago, mikebv said: Usually those on here who "wear the club shop" every time they go... Or get in for "free" by putting the air fences up and cleaning the toilets...! That's mandatory at the Showground i gather. The £22 is no where near enough on it's own Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackett Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 Absolutely farcical !! A 7day ban when the Stars have no meetings - At least he should be safe for the "El Brassico" in July Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 1 hour ago, DazS said: someone's got to do it. Indeed... With the added bonus that if you do, you seemingly can officially go on forums and have an opinon on how the sport is ran... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 valve Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 1 hour ago, iainb said: How about when signing the rider not stipulating/agreeing to that rider missing some away matches at "small" tracks? Unlike how a rolling stone gathers no moss, its amazing how in the world of British speedway false news, Chinese whispers & suchlike gather believers to propagate inaccurate rumours' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byker Biker Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 22 minutes ago, Star Lady said: Silly Boys Club……read the initials I did but I'm lysdexic! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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