Waspman Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 (edited) Must have been food poisoning after his withdrawal he could not speak English? Edited June 28, 2023 by Waspman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 3 hours ago, 2ndbendbeerhut said: Wonder what would happen if there was no guest facilities.... They would have a fit for purpose R/R operating model? They would have less riders per team to create a surplus of unattached "subs on the bench"? They would stop running meetings on nights when they 100% know key riders who should be there are already booked to be elsewhere, or, are likely to be elsewhere as they have made it clear at the start of the season that they are pursuing individual ambitions, eg GP Challenge qualifying, U21, U19 domestic and world qualifiers etc? They wouldnt be agreeing so readily to meetings where they know they would be allowed to improve their team by bringing in a better rider on a higher average, or a better rider at a specific track? They wouldn't have such ridicule based on much of the nonsense and manipulation that is allowed to pervade by having guests in the first place? The sport may be taken seriously by the wider media and fans? Sponsors may come on board to support credible sporting contests? Ex fans who still closely follow the sport may start to return? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 5 hours ago, mikebv said: They would have a fit for purpose R/R operating model? They would have less riders per team to create a surplus of unattached "subs on the bench"? They would stop running meetings on nights when they 100% know key riders who should be there are already booked to be elsewhere, or, are likely to be elsewhere as they have made it clear at the start of the season that they are pursuing individual ambitions, eg GP Challenge qualifying, U21, U19 domestic and world qualifiers etc? They wouldnt be agreeing so readily to meetings where they know they would be allowed to improve their team by bringing in a better rider on a higher average, or a better rider at a specific track? They wouldn't have such ridicule based on much of the nonsense and manipulation that is allowed to pervade by having guests in the first place? The sport may be taken seriously by the wider media and fans? Sponsors may come on board to support credible sporting contests? Ex fans who still closely follow the sport may start to return? Bravo! That's the clearest explanation I've seen for a new/different operating model that might just work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 7 hours ago, mikebv said: They would have a fit for purpose R/R operating model? They would have less riders per team to create a surplus of unattached "subs on the bench"? They would stop running meetings on nights when they 100% know key riders who should be there are already booked to be elsewhere, or, are likely to be elsewhere as they have made it clear at the start of the season that they are pursuing individual ambitions, eg GP Challenge qualifying, U21, U19 domestic and world qualifiers etc? They wouldnt be agreeing so readily to meetings where they know they would be allowed to improve their team by bringing in a better rider on a higher average, or a better rider at a specific track? They wouldn't have such ridicule based on much of the nonsense and manipulation that is allowed to pervade by having guests in the first place? The sport may be taken seriously by the wider media and fans? Sponsors may come on board to support credible sporting contests? Ex fans who still closely follow the sport may start to return? Whilst we might like the “subs on the bench” idea as apposed to the guest system, it’s just not going to happen. The powers that be rewrote the rule book to stop it when teams are faced with injuries, at a time when the sport in this country gets its greatest exposure. It’s also evident, given posts on the subject that BSF are dead against the idea and prefer guests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 Belle Vue “Can we sign a number one even though he doesn’t want to do all the away meetings?” Cartel “No” Kings Lynn “Can we sign a number one even though he doesn’t want to do all the away meetings?” Cartel “Yes” Don’t agree with it btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 24 minutes ago, ouch said: Belle Vue “Can we sign a number one Robert Lambert even though he doesn’t want to do all the away meetings?” Cartel “No” Belle Vue: We've got lawyers Cartel: oh well Kings Lynn “Can we sign a number one even though he doesn’t want to do all the away meetings?” Cartel “Yes, remember what happened with Belle Vue Don’t agree with it btw. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtf Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 10 minutes ago, arnieg said: Belle Vue “Can we sign a number one Robert Lambert even though he doesn’t want to do all the away meetings?” Cartel “No” Belle Vue: We've got lawyers Cartel: oh well Kings Lynn “Can we sign a number one even though he doesn’t want to do all the away meetings?” Cartel “Yes, remember what happened with Belle Vue Don’t agree with it btw. The double standards are breath-taking 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatfingers Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 (edited) 23 hours ago, Bald Bloke said: Just the truth is all we want. Whether Buster inherited the deal from Alex, or this has come from Lagtua/ Poland. Or has Buster felt he had to do it to keep running to the end of the season. Any of those 3 isn't really damming on Buster in fairness. Well 2 out of 3 deffo ain't any fault of Buster. The 3rd might of been either that, or close now. The transparency is whats needed here from Buster . Not being honest It's giving people the chance to get on his back.. again ..Honesty goes a long way imho. I think your question has been answered in the Press Release of May 24th http://www.kingslynn-speedway.com/news.php?extend.31349 i.e. “All of the financial and team matters at King’s Lynn are taken on by Alex Brady and Dale Allitt, although obviously I still have responsibility for the stadium." That clearly indicated where responsibility lies for any agreements re the Team, therefore as the stadium owner he has inherited any issues and problems leaving him to deal with them however he is able to. I note that "financial" matters specifically were not his responsibility. It leaves me thinking he has been left to pick up the financial sh*tty stick after those that have dropped it! Edited June 29, 2023 by Fatfingers 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 7 minutes ago, Fatfingers said: I think your question has been answered in the Press Release of May 24th http://www.kingslynn-speedway.com/news.php?extend.31349 i.e. “All of the financial and team matters at King’s Lynn are taken on by Alex Brady and Dale Allitt, although obviously I still have responsibility for the stadium." That clearly indicated where responsibility lies for any agreements re the Team, therefore as the stadium owner he has inherited any issues and problems leaving him to deal with them however he is able to. I note that "financial" matters specifically were not his responsibility. It leaves me thinking he has been left to pick up the financial sh*tty stick after those that have dropped it! I read that when it came out. Unless I'm missing something, that tells us that Alex did the Laguta deal, as we all know. But what it don't tell us is since Alex did the deal, has Laguta/ Poland or Buster re gigged the deal. Or was it in fact Alex's original deal, and hasn't been changed at all. What did cross my mine is that being as you appeared around the same time as David Haggart, you are close to it all, and know what happened . Sorry if i'm miles away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatfingers Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said: I read that when it came out. Unless I'm missing something, that tells us that Alex did the Laguta deal, as we all know. But what it don't tell us is since Alex did the deal, has Laguta/ Poland or Buster re gigged the deal. Or was it in fact Alex's original deal, and hasn't been changed at all. What did cross my mine is that being as you appeared around the same time as David Haggart, you are close to it all, and know what happened . Sorry if i'm miles away Miles away; just reading up on it and that seemed to be a logical conclusion. I do enjoy a forum discussion but like to follow the evidence, if it is there. Edited June 29, 2023 by Fatfingers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, Fatfingers said: Miles away; just reading up on it and that seemed to be a logical conclusion. I do enjoy a forum discussion but like to follow the evidence, if it is there. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 5 hours ago, arnieg said: Definitely more accurate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 (edited) In the Speedway Star this week (another excellent publication), Alex Brady in a very good, honest interview, mentions the £10k a match thrown about on here.. And states it wasn't even half that but as a "world champion" he (quite rightly), doesn't come cheap.. He also said that the "TV money" basically paid for Artem.... Edited June 29, 2023 by mikebv 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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