Bagpuss Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 12 minutes ago, Haza said: Surprised it’s taken this long for your enthusiasm to be at zero - mine been there since that ill-fated night Holder and Batch gate night .I was done after that night and if anything the sport has become an even bigger farce since that night . Believe me it's not been much above zero since Holdergate but even though I don't go that often I'm no longer paying 22 quid to a club run in this manner. It's been a sh itshow for too long now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 Are King's Lynn operating team manager replacement tonight? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justathought Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 7 minutes ago, Najjer said: We know he’s not injured… How do you know he's not injured ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 14 minutes ago, iainb said: I would have thought if they told the truth, they wouldn't be granted a facility and you'd have a junior at number 1... which is no good to anybody. I'll grant you that they've probably tied themselves up in rules of their own making That is yet another major issue though isn't it? They should just be able to say exactly what the situation is.. We have guest after guest after guest in virtually every meeting so the actual reasons for them have become irrelevant... Is he injured? Has he missed a flight? Is anyone talking the piss? Who cares.... This way they run the sport, it means so very little other than getting 14 riders in the same place at the same time to race 15 heats of (hopefully) entertaining racing.. We know it's all contrived and made up, so the promoters should just treat us like adults and tell us reasons why things happen.. It won't stop most from going as being "Champions" means so little overall.. The majority of fans nowadays I would suggest are "Speedway Fans" first, and want it to be successful, before getting too engaged in how successful their club is.. Put out some decent racing and crowds will turn up.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 1 minute ago, Bagpuss said: Believe me it's not been much above zero since Holdergate but even though I don't go that often I'm no longer paying 22 quid to a club run in this manner. It's been a sh itshow for too long now. Can’t disagree there - the bit got me and still gets me is they think the paying customers are idiots and the taken for granted bit as well they think oh the fans will turn up what ever we do . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, Lefty said: Are King's Lynn operating team manager replacement tonight? He's injured..... I mean missed his flight... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, Haza said: Can’t disagree there - the bit got me and still gets me is they think the paying customers are idiots and the taken for granted bit as well they think oh the fans will turn up what ever we do . And that's British speedway as a whole to be fair. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, justathought said: How do you know he's not injured ? Maybe I should rephrase that - we all suspect he’s not injured. He himself declared last week he was absolutely fine. Wroclaw said he was fine. He was out on a motocross bike last week apparently and then rode 5 races yesterday absolutely fine. I was also told early last week that there was no way would he be riding away at Wolves on Monday from a reliable source… so my suspicions are, maybe, just maybe…. He’s not injured. I’m sure Phil Morris and co will look into this though and check out which flight he was due to be on this morning and look for flight purchase history plus medical injury records to prove otherwise - once he’s finished cleaning the helmet line up board for the riders to use on the tele tonight and cleaning the toilets with Carl Johnson Edited June 26, 2023 by Najjer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, mikebv said: We know it's all contrived and made up, so the promoters should just treat us like adults and tell us reasons why things happen.. It won't stop most from going as being "Champions" means so little overall.. The majority of fans nowadays I would suggest are "Speedway Fans" first, and want it to be successful, before getting too engaged in how successful their club is.. Put out some decent racing and crowds will turn up.. I know it, you know it, all Speedway fans know it... there are still some TV, the "media" and sponsors who still need to portray a sport with integrity for their own business and marketing purposes, so we have to go through this charade 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSpecialOne Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 11 hours ago, Bald Bloke said: This is what Alex told me.. " trust me when I say I’m leaving it healthy financially" No mention of the remainder of the season. I'm guessing Laguta's wages are a problem for Buster. Unless you have been told something different. Alarm bells should be ringing at the first two words of that statement 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 Everything is done in the best interests of the sport.You have remember that as you hand over your cash.!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 5 minutes ago, iainb said: I know it, you know it, all Speedway fans know it... there are still some TV, the "media" and sponsors who still need to portray a sport with integrity for their own business and marketing purposes, so we have to go through this charade Exactly... And that is all it is.. A charade... Discovery must be delighted to have got involved with such professionalism.. The promoters must know how farcical it is at times because they deliver it with their own operating model... We fans dont take it too seriously so just let us know why things change... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 Seems to me that it is no coincidence that Chapman said last week that the King's Lynn team is over budget and then his week Laguta isn't riding. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justathought Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, Najjer said: Maybe I should rephrase that - we all suspect he’s not injured. He himself declared last week he was absolutely fine. Wroclaw said he was fine. He was out on a motocross bike last week apparently and then rode 5 races yesterday absolutely fine. I was also told early last week that there was no way would he be riding away at Wolves on Monday from a reliable source… so my suspicions are, maybe, just maybe…. He’s not injured. I don't know if he is or isn't injured. Don't you think you're getting a tad obsessive about it . He was out on a motocross bike last week apparently and then rode 5 races yesterday absolutely fine. I was also told early last week that there was no way would he be riding away at Wolves on Monday from a reliable source. If he is or isn't. There is realistically only one thing you can do about it. Go and pay your money to watch the meeting, or don't. If you truly find it all so upsetting, find something else to spend your dosh on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 How forgiving of Bluster to book Chris Harris as a guest for Artem, especially as he was the rider who "wiped" Artem out in the bone crunching collision at Saddleblow last week. Artem might never ride in an away meeting ever again . Hope he recovers for the next home meeting. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, justathought said: I don't know if he is or isn't injured. Don't you think you're getting a tad obsessive about it . He was out on a motocross bike last week apparently and then rode 5 races yesterday absolutely fine. I was also told early last week that there was no way would he be riding away at Wolves on Monday from a reliable source. If he is or isn't. There is realistically only one thing you can do about it. Go and pay your money to watch the meeting, or don't. If you truly find it all so upsetting, find something else to spend your dosh on. Imagine, going on a Speedway forum to discuss speedway matters. How bonkers is that?! For what it’s worth, I stopped spending money on British Speedway a long time ago now! Edited June 26, 2023 by Najjer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, mikebv said: Discovery must be delighted to have got involved with such professionalism.. They probably don't notice or aren't interested, although the BSPL probably think they are... like I said when the TV deal was signed, I think they probably deserve each other Edited June 26, 2023 by iainb 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin bass Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 30 minutes ago, justathought said: How do you know he's not injured ? He might genuinely be having after effects from yesterday's meeting, he scored 8 paid 9 from his first 3 rides then tailed off and ran a third and a last in his final 2 rides, or then again there's nowt wrong with him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Najjer said: https://britishspeedway.co.uk/premiership/morris-appointed-premiership-ceo/ Former rider and manager Morris, who will continue as FIM Race Director at Grand Prix and World Cup events, takes on the newly created position with the responsibility of overseeing all aspects of Premiership business. 47-year-old Morris will be a major decision-maker at the top of the Premiership, both in terms of rulebook interpretation and race-night operations, and the specifics of his role also include an active involvement in the running of televised meetings. ———— So, implementing and interpretation of the rules and all aspects of Premiership business. Yep, I think this shambles falls under that umbrella. I'm well aware of the initial announcement, but I've seen little evidence of that happening in practice. Edited June 26, 2023 by arnieg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazS Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 25 minutes ago, iainb said: I know it, you know it, all Speedway fans know it... there are still some TV, the "media" and sponsors who still need to portray a sport with integrity for their own business and marketing purposes, so we have to go through this charade and you dont think this happens in mainstream media, ie covid, war in Ukraine, terrorism, transgender, landing on the moon. to name but a few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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