arnieg Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, Najjer said: Isn’t he supposed to be cleaning up this sort of mess? It’s a shambles of a situation. Kings Lynn look like morons for trying to claim Artem is injured, when clearly he isn’t. British Speedway management look like morons and so weak for not putting a stop to it, at risk of upsetting Buster…. Ask to see his flights that were booked (and now cancelled) to show he was actually meant to be coming. And you filter all the way back down the channels and the ones who ultimately end up suffering and being lied to is the fans. But who cares about them anyway? Is he? I've seen no evidence he is responsible for anything other than the smooth running of TV meetings. I would assume application of rules surrounding facilities remains within Neil Vatcher's purview. I ask, because seriously, I have no idea what Phil's job description is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunce Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 The whole situation is a farce! They wonder why they can't get fans through the turnstiles, well look no further than this. Surely there must be some sort of enquiry in to how a rider contracted to ride in a meeting in the UK and yet rode well in Poland on Sunday, can simply not turn up for his UK fixture? I assume he has a medical certificate which I thought was required? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJA Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 I understand there could be a couple of other tracks that Laguta is unlikely to be see at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bagpuss Posted June 26, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 (edited) So Harris for Laguta and Morris for MPT. My enthusiasm has finally eroded down to zero. Don't tell us fibs about injuries, if Laguta can't be afforded or Wroclaw don't want him riding here or at Monmore then tell us the truth. The club needs a massive overhaul in the winter, a brand new approach from top to bottom and running at a level we can prosper at whatever that is. No wonder crowds are dismal. Edited June 26, 2023 by Bagpuss 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 11 minutes ago, Najjer said: Isn’t he supposed to be cleaning up this sort of mess? It’s a shambles of a situation. Kings Lynn look like morons for trying to claim Artem is injured, when clearly he isn’t. British Speedway management look like morons and so weak for not putting a stop to it, at risk of upsetting Buster…. Ask to see his flights that were booked (and now cancelled) to show he was actually meant to be coming. And you filter all the way back down the channels and the ones who ultimately end up suffering and being lied to is the fans. But who cares about them anyway? I am sure Phil will sort it... This may be the sixth or seventh time so far I have used this response so going to copy and then paste it to save time in future .. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 Just now, Bagpuss said: So Harris for Laguta and Morris for MPT. My enthusiasm has finally eroded down to zero. Don't tell us fibs about injuries, if Laguta can't be afforded or Wroclaw don't want him riding here or at Monmore then tell us the truth. The club needs a massive overhaul in the winter, a brand new approach from top to bottom and running at a level we can prosper at whatever that is. No wonder crowds are dismal. Replace the word "club" in your final paragraph with "sport"... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 1 minute ago, Bagpuss said: So Harris for Laguta and Morris for MPT. My enthusiasm has finally eroded down to zero. Don't tell us fibs about injuries, if Laguta can't be afforded or Wroclaw don't want him riding here or at Monmore then tell us the truth. The club needs a massive overhaul in the winter, a brand new approach from top to bottom and running at a level we can prosper at whatever that is. No wonder crowds are dismal. I would have thought if they told the truth, they wouldn't be granted a facility and you'd have a junior at number 1... which is no good to anybody. I'll grant you that they've probably tied themselves up in rules of their own making Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, arnieg said: Is he? I've seen no evidence he is responsible for anything other than the smooth running of TV meetings. I would assume application of rules surrounding facilities remains within Neil Vatcher's purview. I ask, because seriously, I have no idea what Phil's job description is. To bring integrity and credibility I seem to remember were some of his aims... I aim to become an astronaut by the end of the year too... Be interesting to see which one of us gets closest... Edited June 26, 2023 by mikebv 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie456 Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 7 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: So Harris for Laguta and Morris for MPT. My enthusiasm has finally eroded down to zero. Don't tell us fibs about injuries, if Laguta can't be afforded or Wroclaw don't want him riding here or at Monmore then tell us the truth. The club needs a massive overhaul in the winter, a brand new approach from top to bottom and running at a level we can prosper at whatever that is. No wonder crowds are dismal. Maybe Woffy had a word with Laguta and said there's no way your going to get round monmore lol. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 5 minutes ago, iainb said: I would have thought if they told the truth, they wouldn't be granted a facility and you'd have a junior at number 1... which is no good to anybody. I'll grant you that they've probably tied themselves up in rules of their own making If they told the truth they would get a facility for Laguta with holding his services… and probably have abit of sympathy from their own fans for being honest. Outright lying with a sentence that “Laguta is injured, so Chris Harris guests” is utter b0ll0cks. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 7 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: So Harris for Laguta and Morris for MPT. My enthusiasm has finally eroded down to zero. Don't tell us fibs about injuries, if Laguta can't be afforded or Wroclaw don't want him riding here or at Monmore then tell us the truth. The club needs a massive overhaul in the winter, a brand new approach from top to bottom and running at a level we can prosper at whatever that is. No wonder crowds are dismal. Surprised it’s taken this long for your enthusiasm to be at zero - mine been there since that ill-fated night Holder and Batch gate night .I was done after that night and if anything the sport has become an even bigger farce since that night . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 1 minute ago, Najjer said: If they told the truth they would get a facility for Laguta with holding his services… and probably have abit of sympathy from their own fans for being honest. Outright lying with a sentence that “Laguta is injured, so Chris Harris guests” is utter b0ll0cks. would he not get a ban for withholding his services? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 14 minutes ago, arnieg said: Is he? I've seen no evidence he is responsible for anything other than the smooth running of TV meetings. I would assume application of rules surrounding facilities remains within Neil Vatcher's purview. I ask, because seriously, I have no idea what Phil's job description is. https://britishspeedway.co.uk/premiership/morris-appointed-premiership-ceo/ Former rider and manager Morris, who will continue as FIM Race Director at Grand Prix and World Cup events, takes on the newly created position with the responsibility of overseeing all aspects of Premiership business. 47-year-old Morris will be a major decision-maker at the top of the Premiership, both in terms of rulebook interpretation and race-night operations, and the specifics of his role also include an active involvement in the running of televised meetings. ———— So, implementing and interpretation of the rules and all aspects of Premiership business. Yep, I think this shambles falls under that umbrella. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 Must admit, I am a bit disappointed by the response of some on here.. No one seems concerned as to Artem's welfare in all of this.. Get well soon Artem... #prayforartem.... 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 1 minute ago, iainb said: would he not get a ban for withholding his services? Yes and rightly so - as believe it or not, he is withholding his services! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie456 Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 1 minute ago, mikebv said: Must admit, I am a bit disappointed by the response of some on here.. No one seems concerned as to Artem's welfare in all of this.. Get well soon Artem... #prayforartem.... Lol nothing wrong with the pratt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 1 minute ago, Najjer said: Yes and rightly so - as believe it or not, he is withholding his services! Is he though? Or has he been told he's not required for this meeting? It's academic anyway as he's clearly injured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 1 minute ago, Wolfie456 said: Lol nothing wrong with the pratt. Are you a doctor? Show some compassion man.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 1 minute ago, iainb said: Is he though? Or has he been told he's not required for this meeting? It's academic anyway as he's clearly injured Referring back to one of my earlier posts, that is precisely what Phil Morris or somebody at BSPL headquarters should be finding out. We know he’s not injured… so it’s either: A - he’s with holding his services so he should be banned for 28 days (or maybe that should be relooked at to be 14 days - that’s a whole other debate….) with a facility allowed or B - Kings Lynn have said don’t bother coming over for this one, we don’t need you - in which case no facility should be granted and Kings Lynn have to face the consequences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 1 minute ago, Najjer said: Referring back to one of my earlier posts, that is precisely what Phil Morris or somebody at BSPL headquarters should be finding out. We know he’s not injured… so it’s either: A - he’s with holding his services so he should be banned for 28 days (or maybe that should be relooked at to be 14 days - that’s a whole other debate….) with a facility allowed or B - Kings Lynn have said don’t bother coming over for this one, we don’t need you - in which case no facility should be granted and Kings Lynn have to face the consequences. or C he's "injured" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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