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Plymouth v Oxford - Tue 20th June - Champ


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7 minutes ago, weatherman said:

Think you need to get your facts right re Henry.

Know for a fact Plymouth didn't want to lose him.

The team manager drove him out, like he did at Somerset.Ā 

Simple as that and a matter of fact.Ā 

He didn't want to leave, he was fine there until May arrived, but May made his position untenable.Ā 

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4 minutes ago, HGould said:

The team manager drove him out, like he did at Somerset.Ā 

Simple as that and a matter of fact.Ā 

He didn't want to leave, he was fine there until May arrived, but May made his position untenable.Ā 

He didn't and you will notice that they get on really well still.

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1 hour ago, DSC67 said:

Why was he allowed to leave the pits without one ? Surely that's something that the machine examiner should be looking forĀ 

no itā€™s up to the mechanic to put it on the bike the machine examiner will inspect it in the pits along with the bike whether itā€™s on the bike or not it usually the last thing the mechanic Ā does after warming the bike up as itā€™s pretty hard to start the bike off the back wheel with it onĀ 

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1 hour ago, Sir Sidney said:

Scott Nicholls was excluded from his first race for starting without a dirt deflector.

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Could any one tell me the specific regulation that covers that please?

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ThanksĀ 

Copied and pasted from SCB rulebook:

04.2.7 Dirt Deflectors Are compulsory and must be FIM Homologated, including all the parts.

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50 minutes ago, Mike0310 said:

Best team one for once the reserves done there job between them scoring more than there average gilkes was very good but if you have a no1 who canā€™t win a race and barker riding like heā€™d never seen the place you have no chance no point moaning about team changes he ainā€™t going to do it whatā€™s the point well done Oxford best no 1 Iā€™ve seen here all season and a good bloke hope you have a great rest of the season.

To be fair Worrall has been poor all season and tonight scoring 7 points from 6 rides at home is shocking off your heat leader.Ā 

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30 minutes ago, HGould said:

The team manager drove him out, like he did at Somerset.Ā 

Simple as that and a matter of fact.Ā 

He didn't want to leave, he was fine there until May arrived, but May made his position untenable.Ā 

No you are wrong 100%,GarryĀ  did not want Atkins to leave it was totally his decision to go,or his and his dad's.Ā 

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40 minutes ago, mac101 said:

no itā€™s up to the mechanic to put it on the bike the machine examiner will inspect it in the pits along with the bike whether itā€™s on the bike or not it usually the last thing the mechanic Ā does after warming the bike up as itā€™s pretty hard to start the bike off the back wheel with it onĀ 

Paul Hurry is usually Scott's mechanic. He may have to buy the coffees on the way home.Ā 

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2 hours ago, Sir Sidney said:

Scott Nicholls was excluded from his first race for starting without a dirt deflector.

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Could any one tell me the specific regulation that covers that please?

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ThanksĀ 

Yes, he needs one to be fitted!

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2 hours ago, DSC67 said:

Why was he allowed to leave the pits without one ? Surely that's something that the machine examiner should be looking forĀ 

Why should the machine examiner stop him leaving the pits? If Scott and/or his mechanic make the mistake it's their fault and advantage the opposition.Ā 

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2 minutes ago, Bellers101 said:

Why should the machine examiner stop him leaving the pits? If Scott and/or his mechanic make the mistake it's their fault and advantage the opposition.Ā 

It was quite amusing watching the Oxford team managerĀ  putting a dirt deflecter next to Scott's bike in the pits and trying to make out it was used made a prick of himself tbh.

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6 hours ago, Bellers101 said:

Why should the machine examiner stop him leaving the pits? If Scott and/or his mechanic make the mistake it's their fault and advantage the opposition.Ā 

The Machine Examiner must ensure that all machines & riders equipment meet the minimum requirements as per the regulations at all times.

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7 hours ago, StevePark said:

Copied and pasted from SCB rulebook:

04.2.7 Dirt Deflectors Are compulsory and must be FIM Homologated, including all the parts.

Thanks Steve. I see that.Ā 

I'm just surprised that there is no specific regulation that lists it as a disqualification reason or lists as a starting offence - or even a cover all reg such as a non compliant bike is a reason for disqualification.Ā 

Just me being a pedant!

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Why no Gilkes in heat 15? Plymouthā€™s best rider by far on the night. Howarth not doing so great heā€™s not a number 1, heā€™s currently at reserve in the prem which should build his confidence back up. But donā€™t think heā€™ll be at Plymouth much longerĀ 

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An ethical dilemna for a machine examiner.Ā 

Do you tell the rider he has no dirt deflector or do you wait for his to enter the track with Pit Gate Closed and then call the Ref, or wait for the RefĀ not to notice and then alert the Ref??.

Heat of the moment in a tight match a tough call and there are some promoters who would see helping an opponent and a Referee as a dismissal offence.Ā :oĀ 

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