Kings Lynn v Leicester Monday 19th June Live on Eurosport

[Roger Jacobs]

8 hours ago, StarBoy said:

Another positive showing from Lynn tonight, but when 3 riders are scoring 36 points and the other 3 are scoring 7 you don't stand much chance of winning a meeting. 

I feel we are just that 1 rider away from certainly being disruptive to teams trying to get in the playoffs. Let's say for arguments sake we did get Simon Lambert in at 2 or 6, does anybody know what average we would be left with for a replacement for MPT?

Green Sheets are available on the BSPA website.

[Roger Jacobs]

10 hours ago, BassoRacingFan said:

Why is every speedway manager white and male.

Where is the diversity.

Not sure what point you're trying to make.  Must be 95-99% for riders too, and mechanics?

[StarBoy]

2 minutes ago, Roger Jacobs said:

Green Sheets are available on the BSPA website.

Simon Lambert's 3.47 average from Prem is 4 years old. Didn't know if this needed to be updated or not, hence my question

[Roger Jacobs]

15 minutes ago, StarBoy said:

Simon Lambert's 3.47 average from Prem is 4 years old. Didn't know if this needed to be updated or not, hence my question

Where did it say 3.47?  That would be his 2022 Championship Green Sheet divided by 1.5.  I'm guessing if a Prem team signed him now, it would be his current Championship Green Sheet divided by 1.5, which is 3.67.

[midlandred]

TJ rode his socks off

TJ rode out of his skin

or….

TJ rode out of his socks (KT)

[StarBoy]

I've worked out averages following last night's meeting, as follows

AL - 9.12 (8.00 for team building currently)

NK - 7.09

TJ - 5.54

KT - 4.19

= 25.94 (24.82)

If Simon Lambert is on a 3.67 that takes us too 28.49 so 10.51 left to play with for a No.5. Think Artem could get one of his Wroclaw boys over (Tai, Janowski, Pawlicki?) I joke, but in all seriousness if we do go the SL & BB route we would be 6.12 under....

[KingsLynnStarsFan]

1 hour ago, Speedball said:

What was said please? Currently away on holiday so had to miss last night’s meeting.

He was saying about how he doesn't want to be there , the plan was for him to step back this year etc but his heart is still very much in it. Was talking about financial struggles and how the crowd levels are really poor and how the Lynn team is very expensive (assume that's mostly in reference to AL), and how he can't put any more money in as that's his pension money effectively. All sounded a bit bleak.

[GeneralMelchett]

1 hour ago, Grachan said:

He fell on lap 2. The rider leading the race was still on lap 2 at the time of the fall.

Yes, you could argue that they were on lap 3 when the red lights came on, but it seems perfectly reasonable to have a re-run.

The rule itself, of course, is not clear whether the two laps refer to at the time of the incident or the time of the stoppage so it is  down to the ref's interpretation I guess.

Huge amounts of moaning on this thread - some of it seemingly moaning for moaning sakes - was it too hot and everyone just grumpy.

The general precedent always used to be unless they have started the last lap then a re-run is *usually called. A bit like if they crash after the first bend *someone has to be be deeemd to be the cause of the stoppage and excluded -thse are long standing speedway rulings! As ever these are at the refs discretion.

The crowd seemed very low - then again Ipswich always looked empty when the meeting is on TV - this is a shame as no evident atmosphere - the only times i went to KL was in 1990 and the place was packed out for a bank holiday may meeting and to British final semi final about the same time (maybe 89) again was packed out.

There was some good racing

King Lynn were in my view a bit unlucky to lose that one. Leicester took advantage to claim a decent away win.

Please get rid of helmet cam and do get a producer and or camera man/women/person than understands speedway and the best angles to view a race from, most people would prefer a wider angled view that can show the action going on particularly if there is chance of passing.

Edited June 20, 2023 by GeneralMelchett

[W9 Lion]

10 hours ago, iainb said:

Doesn't really matter whether he did or not really, ref should have awarded it

Never going to be awarded on a broadcast or streamed meeting.

[IanBrannan]

10 hours ago, iainb said:

Doesn't really matter whether he did or not really, ref should have awarded it

They hadn’t completed 2 full laps so it’s impossible to award the heat anyway, plus you couldn’t say that with 2 laps to go Laguta wouldn’t catch Fricke.

[Phil The Ace]

Watched it back when home from belle Vue. 
 

good meeting I thought and actually a good showing from lynn really. Without the injury to laguta which I think was a fair reason to withdraw as his foot went on the spokes and yanked his leg back. 100% that was a sore one. Lyn would have won this or got at least a draw. 
 

riss was a shocking choice of guest. 
 

less said about Eurosport the better. The whole production is terrible. Starting with Tatum being on his own. I know there’s no point moaning as things won’t change but for me the BSPA need to step in and sort this and tell Eurosport your doing the sport no favours what so ever. 

[WeslakeJohn]

I don’t think Artem realises how quick he is at Lynn. He posted a 58.8 second race time in the heat immediately after he picked up the foot injury courtesy of Chris Harris. Can’t think of many riders who have gone that quickly at Lynn..He was clearly suffering massive discomfort during that race as could be seen by the way he entered the bends and on the slowing down lap.

[Bagpuss]

9 minutes ago, Phil The Ace said:

Watched it back when home from belle Vue. 
 

good meeting I thought and actually a good showing from lynn really. Without the injury to laguta which I think was a fair reason to withdraw as his foot went on the spokes and yanked his leg back. 100% that was a sore one. Lyn would have won this or got at least a draw. 
 

riss was a shocking choice of guest. 
 

less said about Eurosport the better. The whole production is terrible. Starting with Tatum being on his own. I know there’s no point moaning as things won’t change but for me the BSPA need to step in and sort this and tell Eurosport your doing the sport no favours what so ever. 

Buster said on the radio this morning that he had a choice of Lambert, Barker and Riss. Should have gone with Lambert on current form.

[Fozzie4388]

I still say re runs should start with handicap systems (if 1 lap had been completed) stop all this staying down on purpose bollocks.

For example heat 1 last night.

Sedgmen starts from tapes. Fricke 5 metres back. Laguta 10 metres back. 

[IainB]

39 minutes ago, IanBrannan said:

They hadn’t completed 2 full laps so it’s impossible to award the heat anyway, plus you couldn’t say that with 2 laps to go Laguta wouldn’t catch Fricke.

They had completed 2 full laps... the reds didn't come on until bend 2 of lap 2... are you Christina in disguise 

Plus... there was no way Artem was going to catch and pass our boys, especially with the way the track was in heat 1

Edited June 20, 2023 by iainb

[bigcatdiary]

Some of the racing was ok but the track clearly didn’t suit the home team at the start.

The crowd was appalling, it’s not hard to see why Chapman is complaining about the team being over budget, the support is just not turning up.

Going on what he said in his post match comments it doesn’t sound too good for Lynn let alone Peterborough and our crowds have been good - so far,

[therefused]

3 minutes ago, bigcatdiary said:

Some of the racing was ok but the track clearly didn’t suit the home team at the start.

The crowd was appalling, it’s not hard to see why Chapman is complaining about the team being over budget, the support is just not turning up.

Going on what he said in his post match comments it doesn’t sound too good for Lynn let alone Peterborough and our crowds have been good - so far,

It was on TV though, the crowd is not usually that small. But that is down the promoter to get people in when its on TV, Chapman has never done anything

[szkocjasid]

23 minutes ago, Fozzie4388 said:

I still say re runs should start with handicap systems (if 1 lap had been completed) stop all this staying down on purpose bollocks.

For example heat 1 last night.

Sedgmen starts from tapes. Fricke 5 metres back. Laguta 10 metres back. 

I'd have zero issues with that. They did have something similar a few years back, but that only lasted one season (as usual)

That idea is even better than awarding races after 2 laps, means more chance of fans getting their money's worth

Edited June 20, 2023 by szkocjasid

[StarBoy]

6 minutes ago, therefused said:

It was on TV though, the crowd is not usually that small. But that is down the promoter to get people in when its on TV, Chapman has never done anything

I can never understand why there hasn't ever been a big push to get younger, paying crowds through the gate (16-25 year olds). All the clubs say it's about getting the next generation interested in speedway, but there has never been an incentive to get them in. It's all well and good letting U16's in for free but if there was a promotion to get (16-25's) in, say £15 a ticket surely that would attract some interest. Especially when you've already got your core demographic - the older generation - having reduced prices

[justathought]

It's a Monday night in Kings Lynn, it's on TV ................. What do you expect ?

Why, unless you are a die hard speedway fan, and you've been at work all day, would you bother. Personally, I think you would struggle to get a decent crowd to turn up for a free Ed Sheeran gig, let alone a speedway meeting.