lbw Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 Well one team turned up but for the life of me I can't think which one?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Bojangles said: Would make sense for Oxford in my opinion. Plenty of teams much closer to them (Ipswich, Peterborough, Wolves, King's Lynn and Leicester - although admittedly a couple of them might sadly not be around next season) than the teams in Championship. I get why they were a bit tentative at first, as it was difficult to gauge how many fans would turn up when they returned, but they are still getting very healthy crowds. No greyhound racing on Tuesday or Thursdays either - biggest issue is probably having enough free days to keep the Charges going in the NDL. From what I heard Oxford wanted to go PL but were turned down and told they could only go CL at the highest. No doubt in the best interests of the sport. I myself am totally happy with CL which I've always thought is the best league for variety and competitiveness. Plus in the latter years before we were shutdown the Conference league was very enjoyable and the Chargers in the NDL both last year and this are great value for money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essex Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 42 minutes ago, Mike0310 said: I feel sorry for any Poole fan who had to witness that rubbish from Plymouth I’m embarrassed to call myself a fan, they promoter who put the team together and the riders should hang there heads in shame the warning signs were after Birmingham Poole fans I expect you to give it to Plymouth I would if it was the other way round raging can’t put it into words how I’m feeling. Mike0310 you are a very honest chap and always like your Frank opinions about your team do you think there will be changes and if so who would you replace,read a comment Plymouth being where it is makes it a long trek for riders and maybe that is a problem.No fun for either set of fans tonight winning by that margin is hopeless only winners were Poole riders bank accounts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bojangles Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 12 minutes ago, Triple.H. said: From what I heard Oxford wanted to go PL but were turned down and told they could only go CL at the highest. No doubt in the best interests of the sport. I myself am totally happy with CL which I've always thought is the best league for variety and competitiveness. Plus in the latter years before we were shutdown the Conference league was very enjoyable and the Chargers in the NDL both last year and this are great value for money. Couldn’t agree more, I’m loving the Championship and NDL…just think they might be tempted to try and move up next year and can’t see it being blocked now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimmy Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Mike0310 said: I feel sorry for any Poole fan who had to witness that rubbish from Plymouth I’m embarrassed to call myself a fan, they promoter who put the team together and the riders should hang there heads in shame the warning signs were after Birmingham Poole fans I expect you to give it to Plymouth I would if it was the other way round raging can’t put it into words how I’m feeling. No lewy tonight 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 2 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: Before a wheel had turned this year I fancied Plymouth to safely make the playoffs, but it’s looking unlikely. Morley might score ok at home but away? I see three issues which I are difficult for the Plymouth promotion to cross. The first smaller problem is location. It’s out on a limb and means lots of miles to get to every home meeting. Some might disagree. Clearly Richie Worrall does and drives down from the NE for every home meeting. The second is the track. Not an easy track and you have to be fast out of the traps otherwise you are chasing shadows. The third is crowd size. Last night there wasn’t a big crowd. Perhaps 5-600? Yes Poole again for the third time this season so the Plymouth fans are sick of the sight of us.The club has to be run on a very tight budget. Combine the three and it’s difficult to attract riders of a certain calibre. Pre-season I thought Plymouth were play-off material & that their top 5 could cover a weak bottom end. Not sure why Howarth has been so poor. Not sure I understand your last comment as on paper they signed one of the best heat leader trips in the league & a top British prospect in Gilkes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted June 7, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 12 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: Pre-season I thought Plymouth were play-off material & that their top 5 could cover a weak bottom end. Not sure why Howarth has been so poor. Not sure I understand your last comment as on paper they signed one of the best heat leader trips in the league & a top British prospect in Gilkes. At one point you had them top! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike0310 Posted June 8, 2023 Report Share Posted June 8, 2023 7 hours ago, Essex said: Mike0310 you are a very honest chap and always like your Frank opinions about your team do you think there will be changes and if so who would you replace,read a comment Plymouth being where it is makes it a long trek for riders and maybe that is a problem.No fun for either set of fans tonight winning by that margin is hopeless only winners were Poole riders bank accounts Thank you I don’t no the answers but what I do no is the 1,3,4 and 5 need to be scoring more away than that . I was very angry last night calmed down a bit today but it’s as obvious on the nose on your face where the changes need to be made . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted June 8, 2023 Report Share Posted June 8, 2023 9 hours ago, lisa-colette said: At one point you had them top! Predicted the finishing averages & they were the highest! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted June 8, 2023 Report Share Posted June 8, 2023 12 hours ago, Jaizer said: Makes no business sense for Glasgow. your closest rivals would be in Manchester 4 hours away. How many away fans are coming from Ipswich on a Monday night? While that might be true , watch the next two Fridays . We will have a couple of hundred on the 3rd and 4th bend on Friday night , the following Friday there might be 50 or so Monarchs fans at our place , depending on Friday's result . Days of fans travelling any distance for an away meeting are just about priced out of the equation . If we have any ambition to go with the money spent , its time we were riding against the likes of Belle Vue , Ipswich ,Kings Lynn etc 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted June 8, 2023 Report Share Posted June 8, 2023 8 minutes ago, Paulco said: While that might be true , watch the next two Fridays . We will have a couple of hundred on the 3rd and 4th bend on Friday night , the following Friday there might be 50 or so Monarchs fans at our place , depending on Friday's result . Days of fans travelling any distance for an away meeting are just about priced out of the equation . If we have any ambition to go with the money spent , its time we were riding against the likes of Belle Vue , Ipswich ,Kings Lynn etc Not really too sure about that one, Paulco.... In 1995/96, the "best in the world" were riding regularly at Shawfield, yet attendances actually dropped off so alarmingly it forced the two (different) operating promotions to close. History shows the northern tracks are always happiest -- and most profitable (and can therefore offer continuity of operation) -- when operating at "Division 2" level. This didn't stop Jack Young winning the World title, or guys like Carl Stonehewer or Craig Cook going to the GPs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted June 8, 2023 Report Share Posted June 8, 2023 Have Edinburgh still got a track after this year? Serious question as it might have some impact on what Glasgow do next season - depending on the format and number of teams of course! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW Posted June 8, 2023 Report Share Posted June 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Paulco said: While that might be true , watch the next two Fridays . We will have a couple of hundred on the 3rd and 4th bend on Friday night , the following Friday there might be 50 or so Monarchs fans at our place , depending on Friday's result . Days of fans travelling any distance for an away meeting are just about priced out of the equation . If we have any ambition to go with the money spent , its time we were riding against the likes of Belle Vue , Ipswich ,Kings Lynn etc I get what you are saying, but the bigger question is maybe whether the local support would come in at least the same numbers for a Monday or Thursday evening if you moved up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted June 8, 2023 Report Share Posted June 8, 2023 13 hours ago, Triple.H. said: From what I heard Oxford wanted to go PL but were turned down and told they could only go CL at the highest. No doubt in the best interests of the sport. I myself am totally happy with CL which I've always thought is the best league for variety and competitiveness. Plus in the latter years before we were shutdown the Conference league was very enjoyable and the Chargers in the NDL both last year and this are great value for money. From what I read, it was about the top promoters not wanting to split their pot of gold from the tv receipts. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmarsbar2 Posted June 8, 2023 Report Share Posted June 8, 2023 1 hour ago, HenryW said: I get what you are saying, but the bigger question is maybe whether the local support would come in at least the same numbers for a Monday or Thursday evening if you moved up? Just an estimate but I would say the crowd at Glasgow was bigger on last Tuesday night than on Friday. Don't know if Monday's or Thursday would work long term but with Poland now using Thursday's and on one occasion Monday maybe the Premiership need to scrap fixed race nights to get more team in it next year. Poole are going to want to keep Wednesdays 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko Posted June 8, 2023 Report Share Posted June 8, 2023 13 hours ago, szkocjasid said: Pre-season I thought Plymouth were play-off material & that their top 5 could cover a weak bottom end. Not sure why Howarth has been so poor. Not sure I understand your last comment as on paper they signed one of the best heat leader trips in the league & a top British prospect in Gilkes. If they had been able to fit Alfie Bowtell back in the team at reserve 100% they would have been play off contenders. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted June 8, 2023 Report Share Posted June 8, 2023 10 hours ago, crescent girl said: Not really too sure about that one, Paulco.... In 1995/96, the "best in the world" were riding regularly at Shawfield, yet attendances actually dropped off so alarmingly it forced the two (different) operating promotions to close. History shows the northern tracks are always happiest -- and most profitable (and can therefore offer continuity of operation) -- when operating at "Division 2" level. This didn't stop Jack Young winning the World title, or guys like Carl Stonehewer or Craig Cook going to the GPs. Think that had more to do with the division 2 sides being shafted , with the promised spreading of the top riders throughout the league failing to materialise . And Glasgow having to start the season with r/r for a non existent number 1 . And the less said about 96 the better . I got bored supporting the away team every week 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old bob at herne bay Posted June 8, 2023 Report Share Posted June 8, 2023 Funny lot the “promoters” in the PL. Seems they only want clubs to join when it suits them…… for as long as I can remember they have been riddled with self interest, and been pretty hostile to newly “promoted” clubs. I remember Wimbledon under the Lanning family wanting to run 1st div. at Plough Lane being refused, Hackney Kestrels moving up:and being shafted with only the late Simon Wigg being allocated to strengthen the team. Oxford being refused a PL place … Nope the PL “promoters” are like a secret society running a closed shop ……. Think it’s time for the PL clubs to eat humble pie and apply to join the Championship in 2024 . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted June 9, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2023 Ben Trigger is asking on FB who the photographers were at this meeting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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