Glasgow Vs Redcar 2nd leg KOC QF 30th May

[MD]

Lee is noticeably struggling to control the bike for whatever reason and it shows. In the early heats at Ashfield you really need to hug the white line however coming off the corners he can't hold it. Twice last night he got done inside and out on bends one to two and is often very untidy or out of shape off turn four.

Perhaps Lee is over trying but its doing him no favours. He was much more effective at Berwick where the big track corners are less intensive.

The light will be shining on him as he's got experience but so also does Marcin who was woeful last night and Sedgmen who put in an average Sedgmen performance.

Our rider of the season last year came back to remind us what we are missing.

Edited May 31, 2023 by MD

[StevePark]

1 hour ago, cinderfella said:

Glasgows two reserves should stick to the NDL : Ace to get the experience and track time to build his confidence without the pressure of CL expectations.

Lee should enjoy his racing at the lower level with Mildenhall because he is not going to reach the levels he did before.

Lee is also, imo, taking on too many other bookings with added travelling and, I don't care what anyone argues, he cannot possibly give Glasgow 100% either physically or mentally.

Who Glasgow would get as replacements is another story and perhaps 3 changes are actually required to make the numbers add.

And replace him with who though? Another 2-pointer who isn't ready for the CL?

[LisaColette]

3 minutes ago, StevePark said:

And replace him with who though? Another 2-pointer who isn't ready for the CL?

Yeah, Ace has been doing well I thought. Also not sure you can replace Lee either. All those 4/5 pointers that were left out, aren't available anymore so would have to be a new assessed 4 point rider? 

[Derrickn]

12 hours ago, Triple.H. said:

Broken finger !!!!

I remember watching Kenny Carter being carried out of, and back into the pits with a broken leg at Oxford in a qualifier for the British Final, and it was pretty much drizzle all day and throughout the meeting.

Mind you his leg was only broken in 4 places.

 

Never mind the qualifier,he won the final at Coventry,in the rain,with the leg still broken.

[cinderfella]

34 minutes ago, StevePark said:

And replace him with who though? Another 2-pointer who isn't ready for the CL?

If you reread my post you'll see I suggested 3 changes. I'm sure we could get by without a 2 pointer.

Introducing 2 pointers was a joke and I'm pretty sure it was a way of ensuring teams had 7 riders.

They've diluted the standard of the sport.

[Jaizer]

Seriously confused by this ace chat. The kid got what paid 8/9 against scunny, 5 away at scunny and Redcar. That's way above expectations. He has one bad night and all of a sudden it's too soon? Ffs what utter drivel. Like the rest was caught out by a grippier than usual track. He's probably scored more than ablitt did the whole of last season. Ridiculous comments 

[Justgotmecpc]

3 hours ago, mc131 said:

I don't believe he can get bk to level for championship racing the odd point here or there but nl heat leader at best imo.

34 minutes ago, Jaizer said:

Seriously confused by this ace chat. The kid got what paid 8/9 against scunny, 5 away at scunny and Redcar. That's way above expectations. He has one bad night and all of a sudden it's too soon? Ffs what utter drivel. Like the rest was caught out by a grippier than usual track. He's probably scored more than ablitt did the whole of last season. Ridiculous comments 

The young lad will easily get a 7 point average in the NDL with Workington & keep his average or even rise to possibly 3.5 in the championship IMO 

[Nickinho]

13 hours ago, Justgotmecpc said:

That's a terrible quote by the way as you should never call a rider rubbish as they risk there lives when they go out on track ,,,, aA more constructive phrase like ( I think Lee complin needs to take a step back from this league & enjoy his racing at national League level & rebuild to the form he's had in the past to compete in the championship ) do you agree or not 

They ALL risk their lives every time they go out on the track but so do firefighters and i don't wish to see someone employed by the fire brigade riding at number 6 if he's incapable of keeping up with the opposition. Lee needs to start losing a LOT of weight to be effective on a bike again and on hot days like yesterday he was not able to compete because of that additional timber. Harsh but true. 

[redlead]

31 minutes ago, Justgotmecpc said:

 

He rode well at Redcar, outscored Complin, and Vissing. He's definitely a star of the future and worth sticking with. One other point, for a rider of his experience, Chris Harris seems to have a lot of retirements/ef's

Edited May 31, 2023 by redlead

[Nickinho]

2 hours ago, MD said:

Lee is noticeably struggling to control the bike for whatever reason and it shows. In the early heats at Ashfield you really need to hug the white line however coming off the corners he can't hold it. Twice last night he got done inside and out on bends one to two and is often very untidy or out of shape off turn four.

 

It's simply his WEIGHT. It was a stinking hot evening yesterday and he struggled because he is FAR TOO OVERWEIGHT for wearing leathers in those kind of conditions and going out in 4 races on a speedway bike. That's it. There's nothing else wrong with Lee, he can get points on colder evening against inferior opposition but don't expect him to rack up any points during a heatwave. You'll see what i mean on Friday night if the weather forecast is accurate.

Edited May 31, 2023 by Nickinho

[Biffa]

And don’t forget that Ace scored 2points, ok for someone on a 2 point average I would reckon. 

[szkocjasid]

3 hours ago, cinderfella said:

Glasgows two reserves should stick to the NDL : Ace to get the experience and track time to build his confidence without the pressure of CL expectations.

Lee should enjoy his racing at the lower level with Mildenhall because he is not going to reach the levels he did before.

Lee is also, imo, taking on too many other bookings with added travelling and, I don't care what anyone argues, he cannot possibly give Glasgow 100% either physically or mentally.

Who Glasgow would get as replacements is another story and perhaps 3 changes are actually required to make the numbers add.

 

1 hour ago, Jaizer said:

Seriously confused by this ace chat. The kid got what paid 8/9 against scunny, 5 away at scunny and Redcar. That's way above expectations. He has one bad night and all of a sudden it's too soon? Ffs what utter drivel. Like the rest was caught out by a grippier than usual track. He's probably scored more than ablitt did the whole of last season. Ridiculous comments 

Totally agree with @Jaizer with his comments about Pijper. I'd even disregard ideas that he was caught out by a gripper track. As a 16 year old on a 2.00 average, he could race in perfect conditions 100% the same as a previous match he scored well on & struggle, that's just the nature of signing a 2.00 reserve. Certainly doesn't mean he isn't ready / should be dropped / should drop down to NL.

Besides racing NL only wouldn't help him gain experience / track time as there's not many matches in that league. 

[Fromafar]

Ace is having a decent season.IMO.He has got a NDL place at Workington which he is riding well don’t see what the problem is with him he is doing as well as the other 2 pt men in the League.

Glasgow Team has always been a little suspect (as Champions)

 IMO.They are one of the TopTeams though.

Redcar and Poole look stronger on paper ,though that doesn’t mean much in speedway.

 

 

 

 

[Jaizer]

3 minutes ago, Fromafar said:

Ace is having a decent season.IMO.He has got a NDL place at Workington which he is riding well don’t see what the problem is with him he is doing as well as the other 2 pt men in the League.

Glasgow Team has always been a little suspect (as Champions)

 IMO.They are one of the TopTeams though.

Redcar and Poole look stronger on paper ,though that doesn’t mean much in speedway.

 

 

 

 

What was always the problem is Harris on an inflated average from Berwick and Ben on an average I doubt he'll maintain. Harris has been very good and much better than I thought but he's always going to lose half a point at least not having a strong home track like he had last season. Could argue claus on a 5 negated that but doesn't take away from not having the out and out number 1 we really need

[Fromafar]

8 minutes ago, Jaizer said:

What was always the problem is Harris on an inflated average from Berwick and Ben on an average I doubt he'll maintain. Harris has been very good and much better than I thought but he's always going to lose half a point at least not having a strong home track like he had last season. Could argue claus on a 5 negated that but doesn't take away from not having the out and out number 1 we really need

Valid point regarding Harris.Berwick was his track,finding Ashfield a different proposition ,he has been good though.Away form is suspect for a genuine No1.

[mc131]

1 hour ago, Justgotmecpc said:

 

I was on about complin

[Justgotmecpc]

Let's hope Mr over tho top CAMI took the defeat better than he did at Redcar on Friday..... 

[ragdoll64]

3 hours ago, Jaizer said:

What was always the problem is Harris on an inflated average from Berwick and Ben on an average I doubt he'll maintain. Harris has been very good and much better than I thought but he's always going to lose half a point at least not having a strong home track like he had last season. Could argue claus on a 5 negated that but doesn't take away from not having the out and out number 1 we really need

Who would you have chosen as an “out and out” number one over Chris Harris? As far as I can see, there’s no one in the CL who would be unbeatable at Ashfield and wouldn’t be vulnerable at some point to visiting riders. It’s the nature of our track. 

[Jaizer]

21 minutes ago, ragdoll64 said:

Who would you have chosen as an “out and out” number one over Chris Harris? As far as I can see, there’s no one in the CL who would be unbeatable at Ashfield and wouldn’t be vulnerable at some point to visiting riders. It’s the nature of our track. 

Personally the man he replaced. I understand reasons both moved on. Also as you'll read I never criticised Harris quite the opposite. The fact is Berwick is his favourite track and hit 13-15 every week. He won't do that at ashfield hence it's approx 0.5 that he'll lose. Just a simple fact 

Edited May 31, 2023 by Jaizer
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[ragdoll64]

20 minutes ago, Jaizer said:

Personally the man he replaced. I understand reasons both moved on. Also as you'll read I never criticised Harris quite the opposite. The fact is Berwick is his favourite track and hit 13-15 every week. He won't do that at ashfield hence it's approx 0.5 that he'll lose. Just a simple fact 

I'm not disagreeing with you……was just asking who you would consider as “out and out” no1 that you say we really need. You’ve answered with Cookie who I absolutely loved having at Glasgow but certainly wasn’t unbeatable latterly.